Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

“They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah.” - Suran Al-Anfal, Ayah 30

May her life be turned upside down and ruined :slight_smile:

The controversial Somali-born Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali is under pressure to quit parliament amid revelations that she falsified her asylum application.
A TV documentary about her, shown last week, **triggered calls for her to be stripped of her Dutch passport. **

Ms Hirsi Ali, a fierce critic of Islamic fundamentalism, has had continuous police protection since the murder of film-maker Theo van Gogh.

She wrote the script for his TV film Submission, which angered many Muslims.

A radical Islamist, Mohammed Bouyeri, 27, is serving life for the November 2004 murder of Van Gogh.

Ms Hirsi Ali did not deny that she had lied in her 1992 asylum application, her spokeswoman Ingrid Pouw told the BBC News website.

“Everybody knew she lied about her asylum,” she said, explaining that Ms Hirsi Ali had changed her name and birth date in her application.

She had also concealed the fact that she had arrived from Kenya via Germany, Ms Pouw said.

“She told them she came from Somalia - that’s why she got A status asylum in just five weeks,” Ms Pouw said.

Radio Netherlands reports that Ms Hirsi Ali had revealed the truth about her background in interviews and again in 2003 when the liberal-conservative VVD party asked her to stand as a parliamentary candidate.

Ms Hirsi Ali will give a news conference at 1330 (1130 GMT) in The Hague on Tuesday, her spokeswoman said.

She did not confirm a report in the Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant on Monday that Ms Hirsi Ali plans move to the US to take up a job at the American Enterprise Institute think-tank.

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

And you say that has not happened yet? Threats of death from fundamentalists, I bet, has an il effect on one’s life.

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

Living under threat of extra-judicial murder is nothing to celebrate. Losing her citizenship for being exposed as a fraud is.

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

If we stopped paying attention to these people, they wouldn't get half the fame they have now.

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

relax ppl...she will be moving to us (asylum) and begin working for a rightwing conservative group. source: Jang
its easy these days, ya know. bash islam and get a us visa.

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

I hope the US govt has an issue with allowing someone with a history of entering countries under false pretences in.

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

She will be working for Mr. Bush and she got the job several months ago.
But she will have to be carefull now. The Americans are way more conservative then the Dutch. She wont be able to blurt out too much bs overthere.

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She will be punished in her grave...

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

I wonder how many other people have come to Europe under false pretences:)

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

Ayman Hirsi MAGAN is to be stripped of power and stripped of her nationality :yahoo:

This is a true case of “Who lives by the sword, dies by the sword”. She was in an anti-immigration party, and with her fraudulent asylum case being exposed, she has fallen victim to her own party’s anti-immigration stance.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060517.ALI17/TPStory/TPInternational/Europe/

She is probably the most famous member of parliament in the Netherlands, an outspoken voice against the tyrannies of extremist Islam and a crusader for the rights of immigrants.

But, as of yesterday, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is no longer Dutch. And she is no longer a member of parliament.

She was a leading figure in a Dutch party that is opposed to Islamic extremism in Europe, a Somali-born Muslim who became an anti-Islamist dissident and who has spent the past two years under 24-hour police protection. But this week she fell afoul of her own movement’s stark opposition to immigration.

Yesterday she announced that she had been forced to quit the conservative VVD Party, and depart the Netherlands, after Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk, a member of her own party, told her that she’d be stripped of her citizenship over falsehoods in her refugee application papers 15 years ago.

This news was greeted with shock and anger in the Netherlands yesterday. Ms. Ali, who had become a star in conservative politics for opposing what are seen by many Dutch as the excesses of multiculturalism, had become a dramatic victim of her own principles.

Yesterday, before stunned supporters, she denounced the decision.

“I have found freedom here, and here I have seized the opportunity to fight against religious terror. . . . But it has become impossible now,” she told reporters in The Hague yesterday, before surrendering her passport and, surrounded by admirers, taking a taxi to the airport to fly to the U.S. “This saddens me. . . . I leave, but the questions will remain.”

It is a tale of the stark polarities in European political life today. Ms. Ali, a household name in the Netherlands, was an outspoken defender of secular European culture against the threat of religious orthodoxy. She had fled the more oppressive aspects of her culture, she frequently said, to move to the relative safety of the Netherlands.

But she couldn’t escape: After she made a TV film with Theo van Gogh that offered a stylized depiction of the cruelty done to women by orthodox Muslim husbands, including scenes of a naked woman whose skin was etched with the text of the Koran, Mr. van Gogh was knifed to death by an Islamist gang member on an Amsterdam street in 2004. The slaying provoked a crisis in Dutch society. She was forced into hiding and has lived under police guard since then.

She has argued that the Dutch approach to multiculturalism, in which communities are kept isolated and encouraged to maintain the culture of their homelands, prevents immigrants from integrating and gives tacit approval to the most violent and oppressive aspects of religious cultures.

Her falsehoods were of a sort committed by many refugee claimants. Rather than coming to Holland directly from Somalia in 1992, as she had told officials, she had come first to Germany with a forced-marriage husband, a Canadian cousin, then left him and fled on the train to Amsterdam. And she had changed her name on the form – her real name is Ayaan Hirsi Magan – to keep her family from finding her.

The Immigration Minister said that, even though the party had known about these falsehoods for years and they had been part of Ms. Ali’s official biography, as a party opposed to illegal immigration they had no choice but to force their own star MP out of government.

During an emergency debate over Ms. Ali’s citizenship in Dutch parliament yesterday, Ms. Verdonk defended the move: “I understand my colleagues’ emotions, but we’re living in a country that prides itself on respecting the law. Rules and laws apply to everyone, and I’m not making any exceptions.”

Even Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende seemed shocked, saying he was “surprised by the speed” with which his minister acted, though he said she alone was responsible for the matter.

The harsh turn against immigration in the Netherlands seems to be costing the country many of its most loyal citizens. Earlier this year, Ms. Verdonk insisted on deporting Taida Pasic, a straight-A high-school student who had become a star of her community after arriving as a refugee from Kosovo at age 12. On the grounds that she had applied using the wrong procedure, Ms. Verdonk ordered the girl expelled. Immigration officials handcuffed her in front of her classmates and deported her, two months before her final exams.

Ms. Ali has somewhat better prospects. She said yesterday that she had taken a job with the American Enterprise Institute, a libertarian think-tank in Washington.

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

Well deserved farewell :k:

:bhangra:

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

A woman who speaks out against what she considers wrong in her religion, should be shut up and driven out. Yet, the killer of a documentary is a hero. Moreover, her speech is considered more vile than calls for protests, burnings, and killings, in the name of cartoons that did not exist. Very odd...

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damn these liberals.. they’ll be the end of the USA as we know it.. :aj:

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

She deserved such treatment. First of all she provided false information about herself. How can she be trusted. Moreover she had very biased and negative approach towards muslims. I am quite happy that her real face is exposed to the world :D

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She is a Muslim. However, this has nothing to do with any false information she may have provided. This has everything to do speaking out against what she considers wrong in her religion, and Muslims not liking it.

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she is not muslim. she is atheist (please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali). so no, this is not about her speaking out against wrongs in her religion, because she does not belong to that religion any longer.

what this instance is about is a high-profile MP being ejected from her position of power and an uninformed indian rushing to her defense.

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pwned :clap:

Re: Anti-Islam Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali exposed as a liar - made fake asylum case

She is an athiest, who was born in a muslim family. NObody gives a rat’s ass about this hirsi in America and she would loose her 60 minutes of fame in couple of months.

Source : www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2005/08/in_praise_of_hi.php

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali

Anyway, we must encourage former hindus who are trying to escape the satanic Brahman practices in India. Former hindus must be supported to reform hinduism. No to caste system.

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This is Islamic insecurity with an over blown sense of persecution. This woman, with first hand knowledge of Islam, speaks her mind about what she finds intolerable. Muslims are unwilling to tolerate any speech they find offensive.
Muslims are happy she lost her citizenship because it is pay back, nothing else.
This was more appeasment of the Muslims.
](http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/Dewinter60516.htm)

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Oh spare us. You only support her because you like what she says, and yet you accuse us of this as if you're not guilty of the same.

She has an agenda, and she does in fact misrepresent other Muslims persuant to this agenda.

She has serious egg on her face, that's why she's leaving. That, and she's getting more $$$ from the AEI.