As of now they come in open about merging the FATA in NWFP but one wonder that is this whole GAME was only to grab the FATA? their are questions … why they have delyied action aganist Taliban?
If ANP wants to merge the FATA into NWFP then lets go one step further make the boarder with Afghanistan permanent.Problem Solved…
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actually it's been ANP policy since it's formation and preceding that the NDP's and NAP's to merge FATA with NWFP. It was a former ANP leader Afzal Khan lala who pushed through adult franchise in FATA for the first time in 1997.
Why only FATA?
ANP shud also demand merger of pashtun-balochistan and mianwali+attock with NWFP.
Why only FATA? ANP shud also demand merger of pashtun-balochistan and mianwali+attock with NWFP.
Include Karachi too right? Seriously why the obsession with creating a massive province of pashtun majority? If that happens, the hindkos, chitralis should be allowed to create their own province or merge with others.
Should be done.
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This can't be done unilaterally. Karzai would have to agree to it and that would be his death sentence right there.
Include Karachi too right?
No we hav nothing to do with karachi, it belong to sindh
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Pashtuns want to b united, why u hav objection on our unity
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they r not our slaves, they can do wat they wish for
If ANP wants to merge the FATA into NWFP then lets go one step further make the boarder with Afghanistan permanent.Problem Solved
Why make it perment unilateraly? pakistan has to sit with afghanistan and has to give and take areas. many pashtun tribes r divided into two by evil durand line, it is a very unnatural border.
No we hav nothing to do with karachi, it belong to sindh Pashtuns want to b united, why u hav objection on our unity
Since you want areas where pushtuns currently live to be united into one area, that's why I mentioned karachi.
We have already seen the failure of large provincial setups in pakistan (punjab) fail to provide for all areas (south punjab), so this will be no different. I do believe strongly in provincial autonomy.
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Yeah, I bet it will go over easy with pushtun nationalists if non-pushtun areas of nwfp create their own province.
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FATA should have been a part of Pakhtunkhwa a long time ago. Unlike other provinces, the alomost tribe of FATA has moved back and forth between the settled areas and back.
Integration of FATA must begin with the dismantling of the colonial era FCR. in terms of socio-economic indicators, FATA is probably the most backward areas of the region. This is the 21st century and we can not continue to have a part of Pajistan with only 18% literacy rate.
FATA should have been a part of Pakhtunkhwa a long time ago. Unlike other provinces, the alomost tribe of FATA has moved back and forth between the settled areas and back.
Integration of FATA must begin with the dismantling of the colonial era FCR. in terms of socio-economic indicators, FATA is probably the most backward areas of the region. This is the 21st century and we can not continue to have a part of Pajistan with only 18% literacy rate.
i dont think integration with NWFP will bring literacy ratio high. there is moment going on for more provinces so why not make it a seperate province. As Munir Orazai said ANP cant hold these few districs let alone large area of FATA.
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The border with Afghanistan already is permanent. It was agreed between the British and the Afghan King over a century ago. As one of the successor states to British India, Pakistan inherited its international agreements.
Pakistan does not want an inch of land on the other side of the border, nor does it wish to give up an inch of land on our side. Hence it is a permanent border.
The ANP is right. There FATA should be fully integrated into the NWFP. And the NWFP should be renamed too while they are at it. The majority of the world's Pakhtun people would live within the NWFP once FATA is integrated - hence the NWFP should be renamed Pakhtunistan, regardless of what Afghanistan has to say about it.
i dont think integration with NWFP will bring literacy ratio high. there is moment going on for more provinces so why not make it a seperate province. As Munir Orazai said ANP cant hold these few districs let alone large area of FATA.
Although I am not trying to connect the literacy rate to FATAs integration into Pakhtunkhwa, I do believe that socio-economic indicators will improve. FATA is presently being administered by Islamabad by government bureaucrats/political appointees, has not been properly developed. By receiving funding directly through Islamabad, we have seen a consistent British style channeling of resources towards favored political agents and agreeable tribes. Therefore, bringing FATA into the control of the provincial government will not only increase economic opportunities for the agencies but also allow for locally directed development.
ANP and other issues like the creation of new provinces has nothing to do with the integration of FATA, these issues are all smokescreens which are used to politically exploit and delay the rightful integration of FATA. Besides I have spoken against the creation of newer provinces as administratively burdensome and politically unnecessary.
The ANP is right. There FATA should be fully integrated into the NWFP. And the NWFP should be renamed too while they are at it. The majority of the world's Pakhtun people would live within the NWFP once FATA is integrated - hence the NWFP should be renamed Pakhtunistan, regardless of what Afghanistan has to say about it.
Leave it upto the people in FATA to decide, and in the meantime honor the agreement the Quiad signed with those people about being federally administered only. This danda and zabardasti ki integrations arent needed, they'll backfire, as they did in 71.
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Why not refrundium, with three choices
1-Remain in same status only mioner changes in FCR
2-to be merged in NWFP
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3-to become a seperate provience
Why not refrundium, with three choices 1-Remain in same status only mioner changes in FCR 2-to be merged in NWFP and 3-to become a seperate provience
On paper this is a good idea. In "normal" circumstances this would have worked.
However the Pak nation should step in and break the shackles of entrenched mafiosos in FATA. This ugly mafia has turned a beautiful place into the haven for drug smuggling, illegal weapon bazars, and ransom-kidnapping place that is devoid of regular court system, a police system, and a modern bureaucracy.
That means option #1 should not even be considered. FCR is inhuman, treatment of FATA people. It should be dumped as soon as possible.
The other two options are valid.
However FATA has by its actions proven for the last 60 years that they do not want to be ruled by Peshawar government.
Thus the only choice left is to convert FATA into one/two separate provinces. But it has be done by Pakistanis.
The mafia in FATA is so strong that it will never "willingly" allow a change in the status quo.
*However FATA has by its actions proven for the last 60 years that they do not want to be ruled by Peshawar government. *
Surprisingly, I agree with most of what you have said except for that statement above. Do you have any proof of this or are making up things up again?
There is no need for a referendum, FATA should be merged with Pakhtunkhwa.
Here is a very interesting article related to the FATA and NWFP issue:
Cinema Rasik: Will The Obama Administration Occupy Pashtunistan Or All Of Pakistan?
Some truth mixed with fiction. The imran khan school of thought is very evident where all pushtuns are labeled as taliban extremists and beheaders. So far, this has not turned into an ethnic movement. If it had, pakistan would already have lost like in 71.
Old habits die hard. Don’t they?
This article is clearly written by the commie-leftie group member among the Kabulbuli intellectuals.
The problem with these leftie-commie Kabulis now-slaves of America is simple. They are too romantic and hence ignorant of realities of the region.
The title of the essay is so estupeed. Lumping Pashtuns in the settled area of Pak with FATA or Af-tibals is mockery of educated Pashtuns at best.
Obama admn occupying Pashtunistan aka FATA? hahahha.
Even Pashtuns cannot occupy FATA tribals, and you say Americans will come occupy them. Funny funny.
Another BIIIIG flaw in this Kabuli analysis is to paint Pak army as “Punjabi army”. This is the same thinking that has destroyed Kabulies when they oppress hazaras and generate infighting between Pashtuns, Uzbeks, and Tajiks. We can’t even imagine that Kabulis will have the likes of Gen. Dostum who practically roasted 1000s of Pashutns. Such is the love between different ethnicities in F-stand.
So far (and no one can tell about future), Pak army bring together warrior but disciplined tribes from Punjab AND Frontier.
Thus the officers of Pak army are dominated by Punjabis AND Pashtuns.
That’s where commie leftie Kabulis always made a mistake of misunderstanding Pakistan’s ruling elite.
Another BIIIG flaw in this essay is the rehash of old commie leftie Kabulis and their Indian masters.
That to null and void the border between Pak and Af-stan.
This line of thought creates instability in Pak, but the same thought UTTERLY destroys F-stan.
If not for many many other reasons, it is purely a numbers game.
Remember, F-stan is roughly equals to population of ONE city of Pak, aka Karachi.
In modern warfare, no country with such pathetic poverty stricken areas with NO resources can go up against 10 times bigger opponent and win.
But it does create HUGE instability in Afghanistan, because by the same reasons it becomes a borderless country.
However it will be too difficult to understand for the limited brain capacity F-leaders sitting in Kabul and dreaming about destroying Pak.