Really? most guys I know from Pakistan are far better than any American born Pakistan guys, I know. Disappointingly enough there was only one American born Pakistani guy in CMU ( and a lot more who’d come from Pakistan). The same holds true for UPenn and Goldman sachs. I am not saying that being in an IV league university or a corporate giant necessarily makes you better than others, but it does tell you about the person’s attitude towards life. So my point is my experience with guys from Pakistan is wayyyyyy better than guys born in the US