Another Taliban attack on Buddha statues in Pakistan

[danday_wala]

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Talibans pray five times
They perform hajj
They pay Zakat
They observe Ramadan

at the same time:

They kill people
They burn people's sources of living
They decapitate women throw acid on their faces
They threaten/beat people
destroy non-muslim's sacred things

and all this in the name of Islam.

Guys seriously, do we need these people? They are a cancer to muslim society!

[arshad5]

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Sad!

[Abdullah_k]

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@PaKpatriot1

No, im implying that god destroyed the Taliban to liberate Islam and the world from their evil…
Dont know how you could miss that point… Maybe youR just a little slow?

God is just, and people like the Taliban always get what they deserve.. Reap what you sow.

As for the Buddah statues, I dont expect somone as brainwashed and insenstaitve as you to understand the value of Art… But thats why for every one of you, god created 20 people to counter your statemnts, there are sane people in the world, to stop people like you from spreading this BS.

Did I strike a raw nerve of something. Keep personal attacks out, otherwise, your argument is week and diminutive, and doesn’t warrant a reply.

I am just understand your contradictory position. In your last post you mentioned that “it was God’s will to destroy Taliban”. In the same context, it can also be said that it was also God’s will to destroy the Buddha’s using the Talibans.

In this post you have taken a 180 degrees turn, and from what I decipher, it seems like you are trying to emphasize that since “God is just”; He delivered His justice and destroyed the Taliban due to His appreciation of arts ? So which one is it, I am still not clear

[PyariCgudia]

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@PaKpatriot1

Its just sad that there are such evil and stupid people in this world that they would actually try to defend these A holes... Such people should really be dealt with... No one should be allowed to portray Islam in such a negative and intolerant manner. Thats why we need to debate, to convince these people of how wrong they are, or to expose these people for the hypocrites they are!

Whatever. The sympathizers of these "terrorists" are quiet as mice in real life. Its only on these forums that they start quacking. Warna, you go anywhere at a public Islamic gathering or convention abroad, and these things are severely criticized. Even the media in Pakistan doesn't portray these actions in a positive manner. Its just online and in their secret society meetings that they get vocal. They know most of the world doesn't agree with them.

They also know they'll get jailed for this rhetoric.

[bullehshah]

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Whatever. The sympathizers of these "terrorists" are quiet as mice in real life. Its only on these forums that they start quacking. Warna, you go anywhere at a public Islamic gathering or convention abroad, and these things are severely criticized. Even the media in Pakistan doesn't portray these actions in a positive manner. Its just online and in their secret society meetings that they get vocal. They know most of the world doesn't agree with them.

They also know they'll get jailed for this rhetoric.

Except in England and America.

[Hyperactive]

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@danday_wala

Talibans pray five times They perform hajj They pay Zakat They observe Ramadan

That automatically makes them nobler and better Muslims than any Muslim who doesn't pray...

at the same time:

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They kill people
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Did you see them do it? Or if they do, why do they do it? 6 million Jews of Germany were annihilated because someone decided to portray them as bad for Germany...

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They burn people's sources of living
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Did you see them do it? And what sources of income? Opium production? Whorehouses?

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They decapitate women throw acid on their faces
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Did you see them do it? Or is it another urban legend?

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They threaten/beat people
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Who? They brought law and order to a devastated country They were the one force which did that...Do you feel threatened from the police if you break a law? That is the objective...

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destroy non-muslim's sacred things
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The non-Muslim's invaded their country and killed their most sacred things too...Like their children and families...I'd be wary of non-Muslims too...

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and all this in the name of Islam.

Guys seriously, do we need these people? They are a cancer to muslim society!
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More cancerous are those modernists who have portrayed Muslims as club going, beer drinking, tight pants wearing everyday trash talking hippies rather those belonging to a complete way of life that they have made a conscious and informed decision to follow and uphold even at the cost of their lives...

[bullehshah]

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Hyperactive hates the West yet uses a kaffir device called a computer.

Hyperactive, why don't you discard your material items and live in a cave?

[bullehshah]

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Hyperactive, do you support those who fly planes into buildings, bomb commuter trains, take schools hostage, bomb hotels, bomb Shi'a masjids, behead Christian girls as "Ramadan trophies", acid attacks against uncovered women, and bombing subways? Do you think those are better Muslims in your eyes?

[bullehshah]

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Hyperactive considers these men as “true Muslims”

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Indonesians jailed for beheadings
**An Indonesian court has sentenced three Muslim militants to jail for beheading three Christian schoolgirls in Central Sulawesi in 2005. **

Hasanuddin, 34, was given 20 years for planning the attack, while two accomplices were given 14 years.
Hasanuddin had earlier told the court he helped plan the attack but rejected allegations he masterminded it.
The beheading of the girls, attacked as they walked to school in Poso in 2005, drew international condemnation.
It also fanned tensions in Sulawesi, where Muslim-Christian violence has continued despite a 2002 peace deal.
**Recent tensions **

VIOLENT PAST
Previously known as Celebes, Sulawesi is Indonesia’s fourth largest island
80% of residents are Muslim, while 17% are Christian
A December 1998 brawl in Poso led to months of religious violence in which hundreds died

Hasanuddin’s denial was rejected by chief judge Binsar Siregar, who said: “The accused was proven to plan and move other people to carry out terror acts.”
The court in Jakarta was also told that Hasanuddin had left a message next to the severed heads of the girls, saying: “A life for a life. A head for a head”.
A separate court sentenced defendants Irwanto Irano and Lilik Purwanto to 14 years each.
Speaking before his sentencing, Hasanuddin said going to jail did not concern him.
“It’s not a problem (if I am being sentenced to prison) because this is a part of our struggle. What will become a problem is if our brothers decide to get revenge,” he said.
The three girls were attacked as they walked to the private Christian school near their home in Poso. One of their heads was discovered outside a church.
The trial had been told that the attack was timed to take place during a festival at the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
Hasanuddin said he wanted to avenge the deaths of Muslims killed during previous religious violence in the country, the world’s most populous Muslim nation.
More than 1,000 people are believed to have been killed during two years of violence triggered by a brawl between Christian and Muslim gangs in December 1998.
Tensions have risen in recent months following the execution of three Christian militants in September 2006, for attacks against Muslims in 2000.

Story from BBC NEWS:
BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Indonesians jailed for beheadings

[Hyperactive]

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Hyperactive, do you support those who fly planes into buildings, bomb commuter trains, take schools hostage, bomb hotels, bomb Shi'a masjids, behead Christian girls as "Ramadan trophies", acid attacks against uncovered women, and bombing subways? Do you think those are better Muslims in your eyes?

I wonder who does all these things...Can you provide a link or something to who does all these things? Maybe then I'd be able to decide if I support them or not...I'd also have to decide if Muslims actually did that or not...

[bullehshah]

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I wonder who does all these things...Can you provide a link or something to who does all these things? Maybe then I'd be able to decide if I support them or not...I'd also have to decide if Muslims actually did that or not...

Oh yeah because Muslims actually take responsibility for it, buffoon.

You should go post on an Islamic board. Why post your fanaticism on GupShup?

[Hyperactive]

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@bullehshah

"A life for a life. A head for a head".

Seems more like a case of revenge killing rather than a religious one...Where does ISLAM factor into this?

And if his family member was killed by someone then as a Muslim living in a Muslim country he has every right to ask for either blood money or the murderer's death in exchange...

It was more a crime of passion incited by rage rather than religious fury...The reporter's evidently had to drag Islam in as this man is a Muslim...

It's strange, when the Christians nearly decimated the Muslims in Bosnia, they were called Serbs, not Christians, yet when the Bosnians fought back with what little firepower they had, they were called Muslim insurgents...

Oh well, that's how the media blinds those less informed or those with little comprehension...

[bullehshah]

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@Hyperactive

Seems more like a case of revenge killing rather than a religious one…Where does ISLAM factor into this?

And if his family member was killed by someone then as a Muslim living in a Muslim country he has every right to ask for either blood money or the murderer’s death in exchange…

It was more a crime of passion incited by rage rather than religious fury…The reporter’s evidently had to drag Islam in as this man is a Muslim…

It’s strange, when the Christians nearly decimated the Muslims in Bosnia, they were called Serbs, not Christians, yet when the Bosnians fought back with what little firepower they had, they were called Muslim insurgents…

Oh well, that’s how the media blinds those less informed or those with little comprehension…

Then why was Ramadan a factor then, fake wannabe mullah?

Beheaded girls were Ramadan ‘trophies’

Stephen Fitzpatrick, Jakarta correspondent | November 09, 2006

THREE Christian high school girls were beheaded as a Ramadan “trophy” by Indonesian militants who conceived the idea after a visit to Philippines jihadists, a court heard yesterday.
The girls’ severed heads were dumped in plastic bags in their village in Indonesia’s strife-torn Central Sulawesi province, along with a handwritten note threatening more such attacks. The note read: “Wanted: 100 more Christian heads, teenaged or adult, male or female; blood shall be answered with blood, soul with soul, head with head.”
Javanese trader Hasanuddin appeared in Jakarta Central Court yesterday charged with planning and directing the murders in October last year. He faces a death sentence if found guilty under anti-terrorism legislation.
Hasanuddin allegedly returned from a visit to members of Philippines Islamist group the Moro Islamic Liberation Front with tales of how that organisation regularly staged bombings to coincide with Lebaran, the festival that ends the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. He later spoke with a preacher in Poso, Central Sulawesi, about whether such a plan could work in Indonesia, but expressed doubt about whether it was appropriate.
However, after further discussion with friends, he decided that beheading Christians could qualify as an act of Muslim charity.
Conscripting several accomplices at a local pesantren, or Islamic school, he directed one of them, Lilik Purnomo, to seek out “the head of a Christian”, prosecutors alleged.
“It would be a great Lebaran trophy if we got a Christian. Go search for the best place for us to find one,” Hasanuddin allegedly ordered his companion.
Lilik returned to say he had found an “excellent” target - a group of schoolgirls who travelled to and from class by foot in the Central Sulawesi village of Gebong Rejo. The village is in the district of Poso, where hundreds of people have died in sectarian violence in recent years.
Many observers worry that Central Sulawesi has become the latest battleground in a deadly jihad.
Three Christian men were executed there last month for their role in a massacre of Muslims in 2000 and there have been a series of deadly attacks in the province in recent months.
Prosecutors yesterday detailed how Hasanuddin, Lilik and co-accused Irwanto Irano planned the schoolgirl beheadings with six other men. They prepared six machetes and black plastic bags for carrying off the severed heads and spent several days surveying the area where the students regularly passed by.
The operation was called off on one occasion, when a woman spotted the attackers hiding by the roadside, waiting for their victims. On the night before the attack, Lilik told Hasanuddin: “I hope you are ready to receive your Lebaran gift.”
The attack was launched the following morning, but only four of the six targeted girls appeared.
Lilik, directing the attack from a nearby hill, told his accomplices to act quickly so that the remaining two girls could still be killed should they appear behind their friends.
The attackers cleanly beheaded three of the students but a fourth, Noviana Malewa, escaped after a struggle and ran away screaming. Her attackers gave chase but were unable to catch her.
The bodies, dressed in school uniform, were left by the roadside near the execution site, but the heads were carried in a backpack to Hasanuddin.The trial of his two co-accomplices was adjourned until Wednesday, when Hasanuddin will also reappear.

So you are perfectly okay with this, Hyperactive? No wonder why you’re such a coward in person.

[Hyperactive]

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BS, I know how you can be brave and a good Muslim in the eyes of the world at the same time...Because apart from advice I am about to give you, there is no way to be seen as a good and brave Muslim...

If a person enters your house to rape your wife, abduct your daughter, take your wealth and kill you, then you should hold down your wife to help the intruder, make your daughter unconscious so she's easier for the intruder to carry, give him all your wealth and slit your own throat...

That way the world will love you for being a good and brave Muslim...Because if you put up a fight for your rights and family, chances are you would labelled as a violent and hate filled Muslim and the intruder would become the hero and you would be labelled as a Muslim terrorist who killed an innocent intruder...

My best advice for you is: Do nothing when anything happens...That's the best way to appear a good Muslim in the eyes of the world...

[Femme_Fatale]

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[mod] bullehsah layoff the personal attacks please[/mod]

[legbreakgoogly]

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These people will destory our heritage. We have such history in Pakistan, such culture. These radicals want to "cleanse" us lands of our glorious past. Let us smile with pride over our Bhuddist past, just as we say with pride today "we are Muslims".

[danday_wala]

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@Hyperactive

That automatically makes them nobler and better Muslims than any Muslim who doesn’t pray…

at the same time:

Did you see them do it? Or if they do, why do they do it? 6 million Jews of Germany were annihilated because someone decided to portray them as bad for Germany…

Did you see them do it? And what sources of income? Opium production? Whorehouses?

Did you see them do it? Or is it another urban legend?

Who? They brought law and order to a devastated country They were the one force which did that…Do you feel threatened from the police if you break a law? That is the objective…

The non-Muslim’s invaded their country and killed their most sacred things too…Like their children and families…I’d be wary of non-Muslims too…

More cancerous are those modernists who have portrayed Muslims as club going, beer drinking, tight pants wearing everyday trash talking hippies rather those belonging to a complete way of life that they have made a conscious and informed decision to follow and uphold even at the cost of their lives…

These statements/questions are so naive that they are not even deserved to be read, let alone be answered!

[Khehkeshan]

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Hyperactive is playing the very old mullah game of denying everything by asking if we have seen something with our own eyes. Next he will deny existence of God because we have not seen Him with our own eyes!

[muali]

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Hyperactive is playing the very old mullah game of denying everything by asking if we have seen something with our own eyes. Next he will deny existence of God because we have not seen Him with our own eyes!

Well Said....

[system]

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@Hyperactive

That automatically makes them nobler and better Muslims than any Muslim who doesn’t pray…

at the same time:

Did you see them do it? Or if they do, why do they do it? 6 million Jews of Germany were annihilated because someone decided to portray them as bad for Germany…

Did you see them do it? And what sources of income? Opium production? Whorehouses?

Did you see them do it? Or is it another urban legend?

Who? They brought law and order to a devastated country They were the one force which did that…Do you feel threatened from the police if you break a law? That is the objective…

The non-Muslim’s invaded their country and killed their most sacred things too…Like their children and families…I’d be wary of non-Muslims too…

More cancerous are those modernists who have portrayed Muslims as club going, beer drinking, tight pants wearing everyday trash talking hippies rather those belonging to a complete way of life that they have made a conscious and informed decision to follow and uphold even at the cost of their lives…

Yes I saw them do all those things.. Come on man, dont be foolish. They have admited it themselves, they have given people warnings with their signatures on them.

You should be ashamed of yourself, you support murderers and demonds.

The true Cancer is the stupidity of Muslims… Your final paragraph completely exposes your lack of insight.
NO one in the world has come to portray Muslims with clubs, beer, and tight pants
Thats ridiculous!
If anything, the world has come to portray Muslims as bearded, or Burqa clad terrorists. Muslims are protrayed as violent, intolerant animals, who have no love for life or respect for the life of others…
How far do you have to have your head in the sand to not realize that?!?!