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laila143,
As far as I understand they are going to move in, no ifs and buts about it.
You do not seem to have any major issues and disagreements between you and your in laws. In a way you see that they can help in taking care of your son while you go to work. They also love their grandson and want to have fun with him.
So take advantage of the situation and make your husband and your in laws agree to some rules. Handle this very delicately and diplomatically.

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Dont worry..you have a son...what comes around goes around....

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^ What the heck is that supposed to mean??? Passing such judgment on a person when you don't even know them is pretty immature.

Laila, if this was an issue before marriage, it could have been discussed and if it bothered you a lot, you could have walked away. However, you're married now and have a kid so you really can't walk away from your marriage for this reason.

You have two choices. You can fight with your husband about not having them move in and being allowed to have space, thus making your husband resentful towards you which will definitely hurt your marriage. OR you can just ignore your in-laws' overly dramatic behavior, smile, nod your head and welcome them with open arms. This will definitely make your husband respect you more and he will be grateful to you for this generous gesture which will in turn make your marriage stronger.

I understand you're annoyed and bothered by your mother in law making these bollywood style comments about how your husband is the only reason she is living but just ignore it. Desi people love to be overly dramatic....it's the bollywood movies I am telling you!

You're in a marriage now and marriage means giving in for the sake of your spouse even if it might not be what you want. I am sure his happiness is important to you so you should be accommodating. He is not asking you something very unreasonable. He is also stuck between his parents and you. Why don't you make it easier for him and let them move in. In the future, if your husband is a decent guy, he will definitely look out for your happiness too.

Its not a difficult notion to comprehend. What comes around, goes around.

The way you treat people now, you will get the same treatment in return later on in life.

Its totally up to you to decide whether you want to treat others with love and respect or treat them like crap.

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^said WHO?

bad things happen to good people
bad things happen to bad people

things happen, period

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Yes, you're right :)

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Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

No that is not what i meant. What i was trying to say is that try and think of them as family too, which they r to you now. So give them a chance, clear out the issues. And live like a happy family. Had i meant that u just live with them at any cost i wudnt have suggested u talk over the issues with them.

All that i want is people try and solve the issues b4 just wanting to end such close relationships. If you make an effort, show that you want to make it work beileve me your husband n inlaws wl respect u so much for it. Even if the issues dont sort out, your husband wl be satisfied that atleast you tried. Hope you understand. All the very best and stay happy.

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No one wants to live with inlaws, My gosh Cut her some slack people! I feel uncomfortable if my cousins stay with me, I love my privacy, At night i have the house to myself sometimes, and its so nice i can jus relax by myself.
Theres nothing wrong with her wanting her space, My mum had to go thru the whole tribe living with us when we was younger. It was hell.

Laila- You must talk to your husband about it, You must tell him how you feel. The only thing you can say is get them a house close to you… But i would be aware that coz they live so close, and how they are so ‘dependant’ on your husband… (gosh when will inlaws learn their baby son has grown up now..:rolleyes:) anyways.. They will probly be at your house 24/7 anyway!

yeah her MIL must be the same with her own MIL.. so she deserved to be treated like that with her own DIL .. Fair

laila .. u r not overdramatic... here very few people who have gone through or are going through with it will understand your notion, rest will all give u a crap like 'saas kay payroon talay jannat hai' and make u feel like a terrible person.....
all in short, u need to talk to your husband....there are times in marriage when u need to give in..but if there is something u absolutely cannot take anymore, then u simply can't... u partner need to understand this, otherwise u need to Make him understand.
rest, u know ur situation better then us.. goodluck

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can they live in an apartment close to your home where you guys can visit them daily..? i mean..even old people need privacy and some independence...
although i can totally see the MIL's emotional blackmailing...and your husband falling for it...if they have never lived independently they wont agree to it now...

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^ unfortunately they have never lived independently but we both work and have busy schedules they have another son and daughter why can't they live with them?

I can easily to talk to them about my problems but these people are too sensitive for their own good. WHen my son was born they thought i was their right to name him and after politely rejecting the first name they suggested all hell broke loose. My father in law did not speak to me for a week. I finally gave in to what they wanted.Isn't that sacrifice? Must I continue this even after they move in? If he wants them to move in, I am having my parents move in with me as well. He needs to see what it feels like as well. Guys I am a very rational and giving person and only I know how annoying they can get. I would like to come home to my house my rules my way of things. Is that wrong?

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laila, maybe just communicate to ur inlaws how u dont want him watching indian movies and things like that? I dont think thats a big ask..

Yeah ur getting free help and all, and dont have to pay for a nanny, but u also need to see that the people who are caring for ur child are capable of doing so.

In regards to him being dirty and stuff, why dont u give him a bath before bed-time or something so he doesnt look too shabby? when my mum lookde after my daughter, she would bathe her and her everything. Prob did a better job at it than i did, but having said that, my daughter was a lot younger then and manageable, I prob wouldnt expect my mother or my inlaws to give her a bathe.... my MIL is pretty sweet though, she knows im a bit of a nazi with stuff like this, so she would get my daughter to wash her face and at least get her hair in decent shape.

It's nice they look up to ur son though and rely on him.. its sweet. Just be a lil more open with them about the way u want ur son raised.. or want him when ur not around.. im sure it'll be ok.

Okay, Ive lived with highly intrusive inlaws...I know what it feels like. I do understand what you might be going through. There is no real apparent problem when you look at it from a distance but when you get closer...yes there are definite problems. The freedom to even set up your kitchen the way you like is a big deal and feels like a victory...sad but true. I had my SIL rearrange my kitchen when I wasnt home...completely and she had only been there for a week.

Free babysitting? Im not the kind of girl who would ever dump my kids on my inlaws...but they would mind if I didnt so I would have to. That would also mean he/she would learn things I probably dont want my kids to learn...like the Pakistani drama culture which is big in my inlaws.

My suggestion is for you to have a firm, clear and yet polite discussion with your husband. You HAVE to talk to him about this because otherwise...there will be an earthquake in your home. He is your advocate so use him. Tell him first off that it will be very hard for you to have his parents living with him - be blunt. Say that its not something you wanted and still dont want. He will get upset and be hurt. At that point, you budge a little and say that if it happens...he has to understand that there will be some ground rules. Your household rules that will be followed because its not Pakistan and MIL is not God. You will wear what you like, your son's schedule will be followed and if they live there...they should help out. Cooking for an entire household everyday is not a joke, especially after a full day of work! Now, I know you dont need the help but if its inevitable...your best bet is to figure out a way to make it work FOR you.

One thing to note is you WILL have some growing pains before you establish a life that works for you and your family. Meaning, there will be tug of wars so be prepared for them. Pick your battles...dont fight the little things. Hold your arguments for moments that truly matter and affect you otherwise people will start to ignore you. The home is yours and there are ways to keep it that way with grace.

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PSquared is right.

Right, being the alternative perspective (that I love being!) I think everyone has missed the main culprit/dude...Laila143's husband. He is going to be feeling an immense pressure and responsibility towards his parents. First off, thats A GOOD thing, because it shows he has a heart, is loyal and grateful for the upbringing he recieved.

Secondly, look at the positive instead of as an impending doom. You can REALLY use this to your advantage Laila143. You had an opportunity to understand life living with them, what you didnt like and now you can effect change for the better.....now that their living with YOU.

But before going into this, for EVERYONE ELSE, please understand and stop having a go at her for feeling like this, because let's face it, she's human and clearly balancing motherhood, housewife duty AND a decent career as a Doctor, so hats off to you Laila. If anything, you've earned a right to have a say here. You can't blame her for having fears, she used to live in hygeine nightmare with zero ambition elders who didnt raise their grand kid appropriately when entrusted with that responsibility. (agreed its HER son, not theres, but we're Pakistani for crying out loud, we're responsible for the hungry relatives 'back home' but not in raising your own grandkid?! It's just a meal and a quick change of clothes?! MIL's shouldn't take the responsibility if they aren't up to it, period. Despite this, Laila's still grateful for even that much? So end of that please.)

Ok, speaking to hubby is not going to be easy, as he's already stated his position. Thats very interesting, because I get the feeling he knows you won't be happy with this. But you dont have to be a martyr in this....ie;

Tell him you will help him in this decision and will do your best for his parents as a DIL, but you need certain things to ensure this is a successful 'conflict free' venture;

a) HE has to help raise your son so rotas for bathing him, clothing duties and feeding MUST be shared.

b) MIL and DIL are a JOINT responsibility, therefore whilst you are both working to provide for the house, you're duties towards PIL's do NOT replace HIS responsibilities towards them, hence their upkeep, trips, food etc MUST also be shared by him also. PLUS he needs to allow your parents to come over more often too (to stay) as you said you would like that and perhaps it can give him an opportunity to experience what you are going through...

c) Let him know this will not be easy, re: reduction in space and privacy, therefore you want to retain autonomy in areas that are convenient for you (to get by) ie clothes, social time AND considering he has FORCED this decision on you (''no ifs and buts''?) then cos you are accepting this, he MUST equally allow you the final say in how the house is run. This is important as 2 leading women in one house is pure tsunami/earthquake/jahanum/ in one.

It's essentially both your house, so he should have been more understanding or atleast stated the case with more consideration towards you. But when pressurised with guilt (that I reckon he has) then it's understandable why he'd do what he's doing. Work with him, understand him, and you'll see he will increase his respect for you...and no one says you dont have to be shrewd about it ;-)

Remember, be astute, and if needs be, sit MIL down and tell her how the house runs, how you'd like her to help you run it ie the child's religious and educative aspirations, welfare are paramount. Thats one common ground between all of you.

Sorry for the boring email, but hope it helps!

Wow thanks everyone. True words of wisdom from you guys.
I have spoken to him and he was very upset. He eventually said that they are coming no matter what and I can leave if I like. I was very hurt but what choice do I have? I am hoping to make the best of this situation. He doesn't stand up for me in front of them (understandable) and thinks that everything they do is right and their never wrong. Ok thats fine i understand those are his parents and he wants to defend them and live with them forever. Sorry for even starting this thread when I knew what was going to happen. You know really now I just hate life now. Alhamdullilah I am grateful for everything but now I just do not feel like coming home anymore. I am going to increase my hours and stay away as much as possible because I do not want anymore fights in the house and they can do as they please and run my house as they please. Once again, thank you everyone for the kind words.

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Laila, I really hope you dont do that because when you snap out of it and realize it was a mistake to take such a passive approach to your own home...it will be too late.

Your son will be raised the way they want?

You will be a guest in your own home?

They will run your house?

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE...if they also pay the bills for ya!

I was never disrespectful to my MIL but I did make my presence known after I noticed several things rearranged, adjusted and completely switched. I went into the kitchen, restored every container where it should have been, cleaned everything the way I liked it and thanked them for helping out. :)

This is the right way of taking your territory back.
You have to fight back to get what is rightfully yours.

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If I try to fight back they get offended. Then mu husband gets mad at me. Its never ending I tell ya.

Any1 else ant to share their experiences?

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i think RupeyHalwa might help u or can give u any other adivce..cos i remeber once she made a thread same like this one and was asking for same advice ...