Another marriage scenerio

This is based on someone I know, someone I feel very sad for knowing this situation is true. Husband and wife got married relatively young. Everyone said, so she’s a bit immature, she’ll grow up and adjust to married life. In the beginning she did all her ‘duties’ with joy for her husband and ran her home with care. Then as hubby’s work hours increased she got a part-time job and kept busy as well. Disagreements would occur and she did the typical thing, remain in a silent grudge. Hubby would ask her ‘what’s wrong’ only to hear, ‘nothing’. She started holding things against him, keeping feelings inside until they would burst out. Months and months of grudges would come flooding out in unrestrained outbursts. Hubby was shocked by her temper and lack of respect. Slowly he would spend a little more time keeping busy out of the house, running errands, doing work, or sleeping. Slowly she began neglecting duties. There were no groceries, no dinner, no packed lunch for him, no laundry done. Hubby was running the household and working full time. She spent weeks at a time with her parents. Arguments kept going on. While visiting her parents, he let her know at the end of the night that they should get going. She looks up at him in silence and continues talking with her family. Time goes by, he asks again, and gets the same reaction. Finally he takes her to the bedroom and being ‘the man’, feeling his ego deflated, says she’s behaving disrespectfully and he doesn’t appreciate being ignored. With a sour face, she packs her belongings and huffs to the car. She continues the silent treatment, breaking it only to claw his hand with her nails when he reaches for her purse.

She says she’s not a ‘maasi’, she doesn’t want to be a typical Pakistani housewife. He’s bought her a house, a car, diamonds, vacations. He’s denied her children. He doesn’t want to complicate the whole situation with a child in case they can’t take it anymore. Obviously he doesn’t want a maid, but is it too much to ask for a meal? They have different values, different expectations. But it didn’t start out that way. Slowly over 6 or so years she’s drifted away and become more stubborn about not being a certain type of wife. Her in-laws live in the same city but she doesn’t see or speak to them for a week or so at a time. Clearly she lacks respect and maturity. He’s made his mistakes and has a temper too. Is there any hope for them? Should a wife make some sacrifices or is she just who she is, unable or unwilling to change? I can’t say I’m losing hope for them. I don’t want them to give up that easily.

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This is so sad, don't know what to say but ... As you asked at the end... should a wife make some sacrifices .. So my answer is yes I would say that sexas doesn't matter One should sacrify whther she or he... May Allah give them courge to keep this relationship alive. Aamin

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Nothing that a good talk wont help cure. Get them to sit down and openly talk about what's bothering each of them. And then EACH has to compromise and do something to make the other person happy. Why ask what she needs to do? Its clear that he needs to spend more time with her, otherwise she wouldn't have felt the need to get a job to get away from being lonely.

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Probably would require some moderation, like a therapist.

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It is very hard to make a judgement call by any third person that it is time for someone else to call it quits or if there is still hope. Mainly because we under/over estimate others' and abilities by thinking that they can't do it if we can't or they can do it if we can. And communication is like good politics or leadership, easier said than done.

I would advise them to get counseling, which often is a taboo in desi community. So the next best thing is to have another couple whom they both trust and respect arbitrate.

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A marriage is very often hold in tact with patience and understanding from a wife's side. When hubby IS responsible and doing things right, she should bear over with minor things. Plans quality time or vacation after his calender and yes, surely spend time with in-laws....its the least a woman can do.....
Its partially fault of desi mentality married women still clinging too much to their own family. To embrace in-laws is a healthy and wise approach. It generates love and affection between the couple. It inclines the hubby to act kind and with respect towards her parents, when he feels his wife has truly adopted his family. I duno what on earth goes wrong.......

When a wife chooses to work, it does not set her free from the obligated duties as Diin advocates. Its very provoking for a man to be denied basic respect and family life, just because it is not going after the will of wife. Power-struggle is useless, there can ONLY be one man in the house. A man needs to feel the king of his family......

Most ajeeb..... Some of us longed to be married to a sober husband, others are being such jahil while getting the real deal of a man, they somehow cant appreciate it. So ironic.....
Her family especially her mother should guide her. Islamicly she has no reason to misbehave other than having grudges. The thing about kids, well, its very insulting to be denied kids when being married. This is a totally wrong idea from hubby´s side. It could go both ways..... What would he loose? They need counseling......if they wish to solve it out. Totally lack of communication and misunderstood signs from both in a way.....

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There is probably more to this story.

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I doubt there is more to it; of course there may be for all I know. But situations like these aren't all that uncommon. One misunderstanding builds on another - you see this sort of stuff in all types of relationships - be it even between two friends.

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They both need to sit down and talk about all the complaines they have against other and see if they can solve it. I think they are laking good communication.

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Yeh i agree. I think theres a lack of communication going on here and resentments building up. Couples therapy might help to get them talking and make each other realise their mistakes.

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I agree that therapy may help. And ofcourse there must be more going on between them that hasn't been discussed with others.

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No one really knows what goes on in a marriage except the two people in it.

May Allah(swt) help them Ameen.

And I agree with them going to counseling. . . but only if they are open to it. It's kind of useless otherwise.

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i feel sorry for the husband...both need to make compromises to make a marriage work and it seems like the wife is not making any...she shouldnt treat him like that....i think someone needs to make her see sense....

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Sounds like she's been spoiled....

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I think not having kids in this situation, is a very wise move from the husbands side. its sad to see so many kids living with just one parent. its best if they resolve their problems before trying to start a family. This again shows the husband is very mature, whereas the wife is being immature.

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I think that a fatal mistake some men make when they see wife behaving in that manner is that they stay away from home longer as a coping mechanism. This only isolates the wife more and gives her more fuel to feel and act the way she is. Of course, both parties have made mistakes and communication is severly lacking. I think ego is playing a large part in this. Just my view.

They need to seek counselling or ask a friend who is knowledgable as an arbitrator.

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^ very true.

Shame on anyone who thinks its all the girl's fault. Typical.

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Reading through the posts, i don't think anyone has said it's just the wife's fault. I think it may be easier to pinpoint her because our culture puts more expectations on a woman. One concern I have is whether two people can truly forgive eachother in the end. If respect is lost and both have exchanged words they regret, can they forgive and forget? I feel that once a spouse has crossed over a certain line, trust is broken. It's going to take alot, years to get it back, if ever.

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over six years and so and without the baby? what a purposeless life... they need some change and need to bring some color in their life... baby would definitely divert their nitpicking on each other

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this is exactly what i was gonna say.... more ppl think that a baby will complicate the situation but in most cases where there isnt a real masla or a dispute and things are just not purposeful or colorful enuf a baby makes everything worthwhile... they need a change and a baby will be a peprfect healthy change..

thinking of them i went thru somewhat similar situation and lost interest in home and chores just like her .. reason was the same hubby working long hours .. i felt everybody had a partner to share their evening but me .. it was sad .. still is .. only reason i am in my marriage is my kids .. we had kids first yr of marriage ...
i dunno whats wise and whats wrong .. but thats just the senario with me ..

we can hardly find purely compatible ppl .. mayb 1 in a 1000.. we need reasons to live and progress our lives and marriages..

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Example:
A tired man returns home at night, after a whole working day, falls on the sofa, turns on the cricket match on TV.
**What is on his mind ? **I couldn't get a single moment of relaxation in the whole day. My head is aching, I should just immediatly take dinner and go to sleep.

**What is on the mind of her pregnant wife ? **I was feeling lonely but I did all the house hold activities even with pregnancy only in the hope that at the end of the day when "he" comes I would feel so happy & satisfied when he would help me out in few things in the kitchen, sit with me and talk to me about our first baby, who is about to come to this world.

BUT, what heppens ?? The husband is servely hurt to see the dinner is not yet ready and some more time to wait. Doesnt she know that I have to go to bed so that I may have enough sleep inorder to be active the next morning for work ?? What on earth was she doing all day!!, she only has this one work to do and she can't even do that. He know she is pregnant and it is not good to shout at her or hurt her, so he angrily goes to the kitchen, eats whatever he finds in the fridge and goes to bed with a bad mood and an almost empty stomach.

The wife is severly hurt to see such a behaviour. Doesn't he realize that I am pregnant. WHO did all the house hold activities with such difficulty. Couldn't he have waited for few more minutes. I didn't eat my meal and waited with an empty stomach to have a dinner with him and share my feelings with him about our up coming child.....He is SENSELESS!! * puts her head on the table and go to sleep with a broken heart and tears of pain*

Whenever such an incident happen, it usually is due to faults from both sides, but one might be blamed more than the other. Infact in alot of cases it might be only misunderstandings,** lack of communication in many forms*, **not putting oneself in place of other while dealing with him/her, **not expressing sincerity, **not compromising or "Nibhaaing", **lack of tolerance and forgivenes, and not forgeting harsh incidents of pasts, **but refreshing them on every new fight*.

MOST of ALL, expecting more good instead of thinking how can I make things easier for my spouse.

What happens next. The inner anger which was not expressed, keep eating both of them from inside. They start speaking less to each other. Share less jokes, express less emotions and sincerity, and living a separate live in the same house

Solutions: Start doing opposite of what has been mentioned in blue, and develop communication and understanding of each others so that they may know what difficulties the other has been through, what makes each of them happy and what makes them unhappy respectively