Another Dilemma.

Hey Everyone,

I see you guys have been very supportive and sensitive to others’ dilemmas and situations here so I decided to give it a shot, too:

My sister was interested in a guy who lives overseas. Although long distance, they were very compatible. He seemed quite a good match for her - they were usually on the same page about everything. Anyway, they basically had this going for 3 years or so. In these years, not only they got to know each other and addressed the issues of marriage but also had a chance to get a sense of each other’s family structures. Both of them were totally convinced they were the ones for each other and marriage talk was well on its way. All was good and then suddenly he disappeared on her for a few months. She heard nothing from him for months. Needless to say, she went through lots of confusion and grief. She could not contact his family and ask them about him as no one knew about her. She was devastated and utterly heartbroken. I saw her going through a serious change in these months.

All of a sudden, he randomly e-mails her and profusely apologizes and tells her how his feelings for her haven’t changed a bit. He couldn’t stay in touch for reasons he couldn’t really discuss but hoped that she would have him back. My sister, crazy in love, told him this was completely unacceptable but she is willing to give him a second chance if he puts his act together. He agreed and he was good since - he again was in constant communication with her and made her really happy. The summer following, she took a trip to go and see him. She was completely turned off the way he was behaving during their meeting. But all this aside, she went overseas to see him and when she asked him to accompany her to another city (so she can visit our relatives), at the last minute, he text her and said he wouldn’t be able to come with her. Since then, she was completely disgusted and turned off by him. For a month she ignored him, he kept calling her. At this point, I felt like she was sure this guy wasn’t good for her. She wasted no time in getting rid of him. For a few months after that, he occasionally e-mailed her and tried to talk to her to whom she replied coldly and finally requested he leave her alone completely. This was in November 2 years ago. They lost touch since then.

This past summer, my sister went for another family trip and while she was in his city, for reasons unknown to me, she e-mailed him and asked him whether he would be around. He readily replied and agreed to meet up. I think my sister right away regretted emailing him and so did not end up meeting him in the end. But this opened a can of worms. Since then, they have got back in touch and have been talking. I think they were seriously considering a future together again. I know they made plans to meet up again (this time, he would be coming to see her!).

Two days ago he told her that after they had broken up, his parents pushed for a marriage for him. He saw no point in refusing since my sister had completely ended the deal with him and ended up engaged. He was engaged for one out of the 2 years they were not talking. The engagement did not break because he did not like his fiancee, it broke because their families didn’t get along. Well, now I see that this news has affected her a lot.

My sister feels like something isn’t right about this whole thing anymore. But she always says, I want to give this my 100% because I don’t ever want to have regrets. She is afraid that if she now rejects this guy, she might not totally get over him ever and then be stuck longing for him all her life. But IMO, I don’t think this guy cares for her enough.

I guess I want people’s opinions on this matter. What do you guys think? Especially the males here, help us in understanding what is going through this guy’s head.

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But IMO, I don’t think this guy cares for her enough.
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You will only find this out once a man and woman are married and living together. That's reality, the sooner your sister comes back to reality, the better for her. You see love exists no doubt, but that love is only true once the man and woman both live up to it. That's only born when they get married.

But, that's just my opinion.

I will give you two common views aunties will have on this:
1) the guy is acting like all men do and that is dishonest, corrupt, rude, blah blah blah, end of story = don't waste time with this guy.

2) the guy has come back to apologize to you after 2 long years, blah blah blah, end of story = you should accept him and get together.

so nice of u to be so concerned abt ur sister... defintely tell her to ignore this guy for once and for all! he sounds like a typical guy.... confused abt his feelings and blamin things on mom and dad. i think ur sis shud be "once bitten twice shy"... shes already been hurt many times by him, there is no way he is loyal to her. hes just passing time with her. its really sad that sometimes we girls can b accomodating in such a wrong way when his intention was not even pure... when will we girls ever think from the head :D

are they family friends? even distantly known by your sister and your family? or are they total unknowns?

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Your sister should SO SO run away from him while she still has time! Even if she would NEVER ever get any other man in life to get married, that is if he is even the last man on earth left for her.

This guy is basically the kind of guy who has too much time sometimes and spends that on internet, has a girlfriend, good boost for ego if she is available to him whenever he likes and really is crazy about him, lastly he will go marry whoever his family says. Will not even introduce this net pal as anything real in his family and friends. his beleifs about internet is PASS TIME and real life is separate. He will even go meet the net buddy but he will still consider it as a game-play.

This is a serious problem with some people who don't understand that everyone is not using the internet for what they are and everyone does not beleive it is a fantasy world.

maybe his fiancee broke the engagement after getting to know him closeup for a year? he would never tell anyone that now will he? maybe you should have this investigated ?

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Your sister should get a private investigator and find out what this guy is up to...

Totally agree.:biggthumb

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Its so sweet to see you concerned for your sister like this...keep it up! Im sure she loves you for it.

IMO, I think when he disappeared he was wooing this ex-fiancee of his. He disappeared for several months and never gave an explanation remember? I think he was interested in another girl to marry and had your sister as his backup plan. That is how he treats her...as his backup plan. When things didnt work out with this ex-fiancee of his...he came crawling back to you sister knowing full well she will take him back. So, what if another girl came along tomorrow?

If he wanted to marry her, what is stopping him? Couldnt it have been done and over with by now if he was serious? He is calling all the shots here from what I see and toying with your sister's heart. If one person is indecisive in a relationship, it becomes torture for the other person. They are in constant limbo never knowing what tomorrow will bring their way. They cannot move on with the one they love and they cannot disconnect to get over them either.

Tell her to get away from him now because if she doesnt it will take her a lifetime to heal. This is what I see:

He disappears

She is heartbroken

She starts to heal

He comes back

She is back to square one again

Does she want to be the girl who is sitting in the masjid on the day of her nikah surrounded by her family and friends - all the while hoping and praying her fiancee doesnt have a change of heart and shows up?

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I can asure you with sister like you she cant make a wrong decision....and you'll be there for her. i strongly feel that this guy is not commited at all. When he broke up wid your sister and got engaged. After engagement if he wanted to work things out with his fiance he could but he also broke up with his ex-fiance too. Before engagement if he wanted to, he could've atleast tried once to talk to your sister to tell her that his parents want him to get engage and if she can forgive him and they can get back together....but he didnt bother telling ur sister. If he was committed in the first place he could've told his family about her n had a formal engagement or something, just to show that its official now. BUT no what he actually did was used your sister and left when his family found the gal

I feel he got engaged when he was out of touch for a month and couldnt give any reasons for his absence....if they were considering marriage doesnt he know you shouldnt hide anythings from eachother as this can only cause misunderstandings. She should've told him to go find an excuze for ur absence and thn come to me otherwise dont bother

My advice is (if possible) to forward everyonez replies to ur sister and she can read this herself....sometimes when a person reads instead of listens it really helps them to understand what everyone is trying to say. It will also help her make the right decision.

Its not the time she can make a mistake and realize it she can undo it. Its a lifetime decision, she dont want to end up with a person who was never concerned about her feelings, she should be very carefull and if she still has doubts about her decision, she should perform istekara about him. insallah Allah will clearly tell her what this guy's intentions are and wether or not is he a good match for her.

I had a proposal and my mom did istekara, it seemed like a perfect proposal. The guy was good luking, finanacialy strong, family was nice and everything which a person looks in a proposal was there.....but after doing istekara mom said no. Later he got married to this other girl who is a good friend of mine, after coming here and getting his PR card he divorced her.......

Hey and thanks everyone. I was hesitant to speak about such a personal matter here but you guys are truly great!

Some of the things you guys have said have come to my mind before but somethings are just brilliant! ZilentZpring, you are so right - he didn't tell her he was going to get engaged because of family pressures prior to actually getting engaged! In fact, they started speaking again and after some time, he mentioned his engagement!

I am more convinced now that she is his "back up" plan, to use your words.

I am definitely going to ask her to read this but I am afraid she'll be vexed for having her business so publicly discussed. :S

Anyway, the good thing is, since the engagement talk, she is very iffy about this whole issue. The interesting thing is, she did istikhaara beforehand and right after the istikhaara this enagagement news broke out. Alhamdullillah!

And to answer your question, no we are not related to them nor are they our family friends. But we both come from the same town in Pakistan.

I second that becaue there is something wrong in the guy somethings that are not clear so you should background check on the guy what's going in his life and then decide.

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I have seen this happen to someone I know. The girl was maddddly in love with a guy who was so inconsistent with his behavior. He would disappear for days then show up again to tell her he loved and cared for her. Then the next thing you know, he brought out the 'my parents want me to get engaged to another girl' story and when the poor girl asked how could he just leave her, the guy had the nerve to say, what am I going to tell my parents.. we only know each other through the net.. they won't care for this.. i dont even know if you truly love me. A month later, he came back running to her and they got back together. However, a few months down the road she found out personal emails from a few other girls in his inbox who he had met over the internet. she messaged one of the girls and found out about their affair. buss, that was it for her and she just called off the relationship right then and there. about a year later, she met someone else who she's now married to since 2 years and they make such a wonderful couple. i suggest your sister distance herself from this man. he's upto no good.

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Listening to just your side of the story, it seems like the guy needs to grow up and so does your sister. She needs to quit talking to him because not once but twice he has let her down. I wouldn't even waste time/energy/money on private investigators because personally I wouldn't care about someone as immature as that guy. But the bottom line is that the guy seems to be immature and both the guy and your sister need to get out of fantasy land and come to their senses.

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the guy seems creepy to me....I have a feeling that he's hiding something....I wouldn't be surprised if 1 day he came to your sister and told her he's married and has kids with his wife! the online chat world is full of psychos!

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CA, hum bhi tou online chat world main hee hain. masoom chehra

The internet use to be so nice back in 1999/2000, now everybody is on it. :-\

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^JL, don't get me wrong. I myself first met my hubby through AOL and totally believe you can find some wonderful people here but when an online friend displays certain kinds of behaviour you just gotta know something is fishy. I remember when I was in high school, I used to spend HOURS chatting and had so many friends. I did come across some people who I thought I knew with whom I had I had been talking to for 3-4 years but they turned out to be completely different. Some people on the web(just like in real world) take pride in keeping their real life hidden even from friends.

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shikra got it right here, both this dude and your sister need to sort their individual stuff out.
even if we say this guy is a weirdo and all, heck for all you jnow he is married and is just getting his jollies by having someone mack on him and maybe he wanted more and dinn get it..

regardless, your sister has shown rather poor judgement in continuing to entertain discussions with this guy, and that is what you should be concerned with most, because its careless approach like this that is a liability for her wellbeing.

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^I agree...

It seems like the sister knows very little about her friend. When he dissapeared for such a long time, how come she didn't have contact info of any of his friends to call? Seems like she doesn't know any of his friends which is something to be worried about. If he cared so much for her then he should have told his best friend or cousin about her. Apparently not. He's hiding a lot more I think.

Also, he must have more than 1-2 online IDs...does she know about them? If she does some investigation she might find more IDs and that may allow her to know more about this man.

PS. I would seriously ask someone to heck his account too!!! :D

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I thought the private investigator talk was a joke. lol.

Excellent point CurruptAngel - she knows very little about his friends and cousins.

Why bother hacking his account? I think we know all that we need to know. Besides, hacking accounts sounds very immature and insecure-ish. Although, it may help someone get over them faster because the evidence is then concrete. But I think in life, we need to start reading between lines to make appropriate decisions - we're not always given that solid yes or no.

You guys, tonight I will be having the big talk with my sister and see where she stands. :0)

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Good luck! I hope things work out for the best, Inshallah!