Anniversary of Babri mosque demolition today

First of all, it is hardly surprising that a few families belonging to religious minorities ALONG with “thousands” of Muslims not subscribing to the extremists’ version of Islam have left the troubled tribal areas. Most of these have found refuge in other areas of the country; a few deemed fit to look for greener pastures abroad. Not everyone has that option. Not least the hundreds of Christians, persecuted with impunity on various pretexts, in different parts of india, as documented in detail from page 48-51 of the PEW report.

Also, last I checked this thread was about the blatant demolition of the historic Babri mosque in india. Frankly, I couldn’t care less about other “muslim countries” although it is interesting nonetheless that millions of Hindus and indians keep flocking to many of these in the Persian Gulf/ME. How ironic that even in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, there are more than a million indians living. Surely, if conditions were so bad, these Indians would not have felt the urge to leave their little slice of heaven for such religiously oppressive and socially hostile countries!

Finally, PEW, lest you don’t know, is a highly respected non-partisan think tank. Neither its methodologies are suspect nor is it smitten with vendettas. Pakistan is no U.S. either but india has a lot to worry about its rampant-and flagrant- social hostility and religious discrimination perpetrated by groups and individuals, of whom there is no death of. The destruction of Babri mosque, if nothing else, should have served as a belated wakeup call for india. Alas, some things never change.

take my replies to your 3 paragraphs in below:

Persecution of christians as talked about in report is a reality. It is unfortunate and india needs to have a better record. The major problem here is conversion of religion. Christian missionaries in india are known to lure people to conversion. If they scare the hindu nationalists which seek political mileage out of everything by converting masses. They will get this response. I lived in a place in delhi couple miles from a mosque, less than a mile from a temple and gurudwara and few miles from a church. I never saw any hostility towards any religion. Report is based mostly on frequency and india has probably most diverse religions in the list of surveyed countries. Far as christian persecution is concerned you already know pakistan's record. In india however you wouldn't see any such reasons except the conversions which christians do..

Babri mosque if you have read the thread to reach here, it doesn't belong there. It had to be destructed and so it is now. It was built on a hindu temple demolished by Mr. babar. I'd like to know if we can build a temple named after your beloved Modi by taking down a mosque in Pakistan? No! so is the reason for babri mosque to not exist there. Muslims throughout history have destroyed more places of worship than any other religion. If you don't believe me please read baburnama for this particular episode. To me gujrat riots is a worse case than babri masjid and riots afterwards. One because the people who were targeted did not have any allegiance to those who burnt the train. and second because the government should have crushed those hindu extremists when the riots started.

Indians are living in gulf countries for the employment sake. I do not want to go into the discriminatory policies of muslim countries in gulf because you already know that. Also we have a lot of muslims in india as well but they are better off living in a presumably hostile country(as you want to portray) than leaving isn't it?

I read about PEW as well and reading the bits of report lead me to believe they were more concerned with converting people than the hostilities. Moreover their statistics are based on frequency of incidents which always tend to be more if you have different religions with significant populations. yes i am no expert on pew, for what i read it was started by christians. Yes it could be non-partisan..Babri masjid should have been wake up call for muslims. For instance would you think that it is possible ever to reconstruct buddha statues in afghanistan? Never? why? because muslims never feel sorry for anything..and certainly not for thousands of temples that have been destroyed by muslim invaders.

Finally, I think you do better than Happy and Med. Thank you for intelligently putting up arguments. Wish you all the best for New year!

I agree with you that Christians are persecuted in India and that Gujarat "riots" was probabbly worse than the Babri mosque episode.

Best wishes to you for the new year as well!