Angels In Mecca

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True I agree.. A Miracle is created by Allah and it defies all science and physical laws... When the sea parted for Moses it was a miracle..and u cannot bring up a lame theory that some astroid hit the sea..and bla bla blaa...its a typical qadyani approach...for qadyanies I always say
"Little Knowledge is Dangerous"

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Ok, here is a question...

Lets say, USA fires a dozen nuclear missiles at the asteroid field between Mars and Jupiter which causes an asteroid to be dislodged be on the collision course with earth

what should Muslims do?

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but why can't a miracle work in the conventions of science?

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No He is not limited but God cannot do everything as well. Sounds contradictory but thats the religious point of view.

Explanation can be furnished on request. :clown:

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Al-Qur’an
**2:**20. The lightning all but snatches away their sight; every time the light (Helps) them, they walk therein, and when the darkness grows on them, they stand still. And if Allah willed, He could take away their faculty of hearing and seeing; for Allah hath power over all things.

**2:106. None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things? **

**2:**109. Quite a number of the People of the Book wish they could Turn you (people) back to infidelity after ye have believed, from selfish envy, after the Truth hath become Manifest unto them: But forgive and overlook, Till Allah accomplish His purpose; **for Allah Hath power over all things. **

**2:148. To each is a goal to which Allah turns him; then strive together (as in a race) Towards all that is good. Wheresoever ye are, Allah will bring you Together. For Allah Hath power over all things. **

****2:**209. If ye backslide after the clear (Signs) have come to you, then know that Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.

**2:**259. Or (take) the similitude of one who passed by a hamlet, all in ruins to its roofs. He said: “Oh! how shall Allah bring it (ever) to life, after (this) its death?” but Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, then raised him up (again). He said: “How long didst thou tarry (thus)?” He said: (Perhaps) a day or part of a day." He said: “Nay, thou hast tarried thus a hundred years; but look at thy food and thy drink; they show no signs of age; and look at thy donkey: And that We may make of thee a sign unto the people, Look further at the bones, how We bring them together and clothe them with flesh.” When this was shown clearly to him, he said: **“I know that Allah hath power over all things.” **

**2:284. To Allah belongeth all that is in the heavens and on earth. Whether ye show what is in your minds or conceal it, Allah Calleth you to account for it. He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and punisheth whom He pleaseth, for Allah hath power over all things. **

**3:26. Say: "O Allah. Lord of Power (And Rule), Thou givest power to whom Thou pleasest, and Thou strippest off power from whom Thou pleasest: Thou enduest with honour whom Thou pleasest, and Thou bringest low whom Thou pleasest: In Thy hand is all good. Verily, over all things Thou hast power. **

**3:**29. Say: "Whether ye hide what is in your hearts or reveal it, Allah knows it all: He knows what is in the heavens, and what is on earth. And Allah has power over all things.

**3:**165. What! When a single disaster smites you, although ye smote (your enemies) with one twice as great, do ye say?- “Whence is this?” Say (to them): “It is from yourselves: **For Allah hath power over all things.” **

**3:**189. To Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth; **and Allah hath power over all things. **

**4:**85. Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: And whoever recommends and helps an evil cause, shares in its burden: **And Allah hath power over all things. **

**4:**133. If it were His will, He could destroy you, o mankind, and create another race; **for He hath power this to do. **

**5:**18. In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: “Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. **For Allah hath power over all things.” **

**5:20. O People of the Book! Now hath come unto you, making (things) clear unto you, Our Messenger, after the break in (the series of) our apostles, lest ye should say: “There came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner (from evil)”: But now hath come unto you a bringer of glad tidings and a warner (from evil). And Allah hath power over all things. **

**5:**40. Knowest thou not that to Allah (alone) belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth? He punisheth whom He pleaseth, and He forgiveth whom He pleaseth: **and Allah hath power over all things. **

**5:**120. To Allah doth belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is therein, **and it is He Who hath power over all things. **

**6:17. "If Allah touch thee with affliction, none can remove it but He; if He touch thee with happiness, He hath power over all things. **

**6:**37. They say: “Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?” Say: "(Allah) hath certainly power to send down a sign: but most of them understand not.

**6:**65. Say: “He hath power to send calamities on you, from above and below, or to cover you with confusion in party strife, giving you a taste of mutual vengeance - each from the other.” See how We explain the signs by various (symbols); that they may understand.

**6:**102. That is Allah, your Lord! there is no god but He, the Creator of all things: then worship ye Him: and He hath power to dispose of all affairs.

**6:**109. They swear their strongest oaths by Allah, that if a (special) sign came to them, by it they would believe. Say: “Certainly (all) signs are in the power of Allah. but what will make you (Muslims) realise that (even) if (special) signs came, they will not believe.”?

**8:**41. And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. **For Allah hath power over all things. **

**9:**39. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. **For Allah hath power over all things. **

**11:**4. ‘To Allah is your return, and He hath power over all things.’"

**11;**21. The man in Egypt who bought him, said to his wife: “Make his stay (among us) honourable: may be he will bring us much good, or we shall adopt him as a son.” Thus did We establish Joseph in the land, that We might teach him the interpretation of stories (and events). **And Allah hath full power and control over His affairs; but most among mankind know it not. **

**16:**77. To Allah belongeth the Mystery of the heavens and the earth. And the Decision of the Hour (of Judgment) is as the twingkling of an eye, or even quicker: **for Allah hath power over all things. **

These are the verses only from 9 surahs…with the same ayah “Allah has power over all things”

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Allah has all the power in the world but still he cannot make another God exactly like Himself. Do you deny that?

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How do you know he cannot make another God like himself?

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Ah thus the contradiction I mentioned earlier, He can but He won't argument. Riddle isn't it, how to prove it.

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By asking this u r trying to say that He had made one, against his very own words which says he is the only one and there is no one like him!!!!

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^^ This conversation is getting stupid

We should use Islam to reinforce new scientific discoveries and can't dismiss them because they don't conform to our narrow views

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No you yourself are saying this or assuming this.

I believe Allah has power over all things, thats it.

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Yes He can but He won't, because He has knowledge of everything.

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What about that frog mathematician who proposed a question; Taking into account God is all powerful, can God make such a big stone that He cannot lift it.

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I agree, and sometime i just laugh at myself as well that, what kind of stupid discussion are we into.

Just to give a hint,

It is said that, Baghdad was under siege by Mangools, inside the walls of City, Muslims were arguing if Crow is halal or haram.
( Mangool took the city without any big resistance)

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And why not?

PS: Hint; Hanibals post # 49.

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No bro, it is haram for her to read my post, she just see my nick and reply(accuse) , without knowing what i have written !!! :)

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lol.....:)

He can create anything but everything that He creates, He has power over it.

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So He cannot make a stone which He cannot lift because He can lift everything.

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and it proves that He is the most High and most Powerful, nothing can be more powerful than him.

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But who is arguing about his power on the first place. The argument was if God can/will do everything/anything.

Short term memory loss. looking for that sar pay chapat marnay wala smilie

Also it proves that He cannot make that stone.