Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
I don't remember suicide bombing back then, but it could have been written off since it wasn't very common like bomb blasts and firings.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
I don't remember suicide bombing back then, but it could have been written off since it wasn't very common like bomb blasts and firings.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
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When I went to Hangu in 1998 to report on the sectarian riots which saw Orakzai lashkars descend into the Miranzai Valley, I realised that a major shift was happening. Sunni Orakzai tribesmen were linking up with Sunni Bangash to attack Shia Bangash. Never before was it possible for tribal affiliation (the qaum or solidarity group) to be undermined by some supra-tribal ideology.
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yes they, the tribes, keep having 'feuds'
current status : peace treaty ( ! )
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Imagine my surprise when in Hangu city, on one of the northern hills, I saw emblazoned in white lime the name of a** Punjabi** — Azam Tariq, the since slain leader of Sipah-e Sahaba Pakistan. Something was afoot and I reported it in The Friday Times along with the interview of Javed Piracha, the then PML-N MNA from Kohat and rabidly anti-Shia. For a Piracha to be able to influence the Pashtun and link up with the Orakzais was another telltale sign.
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pakistanis and their problems
they may come into a conflict of pakistani talib supporters but thats not the taliban. since its not the taliban, the taliban are a restraining force subject to terms and conditions
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
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Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan’s claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
That is his point. The feuds were not strictly along tribal lines, which is something that could have been seen as normal. Instead the sunni bangash were linking with the sunni orakzai to attack the shia bangash.
Also the peace treaty was recently violated with the killing of 13 shias.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan’s claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
They all think that we are perfectly fool.
41 killed yesterday in one attack. A jirgah about exploring chromite.
Altaf says that when he will be in government he will see how can US attack.
Imran says he will be on road next time.
He said it near to his masters office.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan’s claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
**Have ever heard of donkey’s farting. IK and AH though opposite to each other only know how to fart loud like donkeys. **
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
I don't remember suicide bombing back then,
Terrorism is not just confined to suicide bombing. Just having suicide bombings is not the gage for deciding about existence or absence of terrorism.
Taliban Khan wanted to downplay Taliban terrorism. This is why he only mentioned suicide bombing. And thus he conveniently ignored other forms of terrorism that his "people" had inflicted on Pakistanis.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
Terrorism is not just confined to suicide bombing. Just having suicide bombings is not the gage for deciding about existence or absence of terrorism. Taliban Khan wanted to downplay Taliban terrorism. This is why he only mentioned suicide bombing. And thus he conveniently ignored other forms of terrorism that his "people" had inflicted on Pakistanis.
Are you discussing terrorism's existence or Talibanic terrorism before 2003?
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
Taliban and their sponsored terrorism.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan’s claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
Ji sir.
Taliban Khan S/o Mush
and Kala Don S/o Zia are now friend.
Perhaps they talked with each other today..
No problem what they were saying about each other and what was written on every wall of Karachi.
Both are agents of Establishment.
http://www.insaf.pk/News/tabid/60/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/6039/Telephone-conversation-between-Imran-Khan-and-Altaf-Hussain-March-19-2011.aspx
http://www.insaf.pk/Portals/0/UserUploads/Umar/PTI%20Press%20Release%2019-3-2011.gif
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
Ji sir.
Taliban Khan S/o Mush
How is Taliban Khan s/o Mush? He didn't accept any support from Mush, he could've easily become a minister (PM/CM etc)
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan’s claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
Kion chertay hain aap.
He wanted 100 seats Mush didn’t so ways parted but IK voted for Jamali. Worked openly for Mush in the referendum.
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Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan’s claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
Is that why he was so against Mushy? ![]()
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan’s claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
He can go with anyone, He can go against anyone.
Yeh Altaf kay qabilay ka hi aadmi hay.
Enjoy this
http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00014/29musharraf_14206t.jpg
Also see a revolutionary of IK
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan’s claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
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Burying the hatchet: Imran calls up Altaf, agrees to work together
Published: March 20, 2011
ISLAMABAD:
After years of political animosity, Imran Khan’s Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) and Altaf Hussain’s Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) appear to be coming closer as the two leaders held their first telephonic conversation and exchanged good will with each other.
In a rare move, Imran Khan called Altaf Hussain on Saturday and appreciated the ‘bold’ stance taken by the latter on national issues, separate but identical statements issued by media offices of both the parties said.
The two leaders agreed to bury their past differences and vowed to work together for the betterment of the country, the statements added.
PTI and MQM have been considered staunch rivals in the past, at times holding public rallies and resorting to personal attacks against each other’s leadership.
Recently, however, the two parties have come closer, mainly due to back-channel efforts by some common friends and political leaders in Pakistan, observers say.
The second-tier leadership of the two parties prepared the ground that culminated in direct interaction between their leaders.
During their conversation, both sides discussed common agenda points and vowed to work together to achieve their goals.
**Altaf Hussain has recently started taking a tough stance in public, on issues like unabated US predator attacks inside Pakistani territory, release of CIA contractor Raymond Davis and Dr Aafia Siddiqui.
The same issues take centre-stage in Imran Khan, and several right-wing parties’, political agendas.
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Published in The Express Tribune, March 20th, 2011.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan’s claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
He is ready to do any any thing for money and power.
Doing much in UK till he was not old.
When he became old, came back Pakistan .
Working for a Jew.
Re: Analyzing one of Imran Khan's claim: Was there Taliban terrorism before 2003?
It's been long since I started this thread, and I have seen this argument repeated several times by Imran. He still says that there was no terrorism in Pakistan before Pak switched sides.
And yet I have not seen anyone challenging him on this position at all.
If there was no terrorism by Taliban before American invasion (actually there was) then obviously Imran wants to revert to Pak's policy towards Taliban at that time.
This would mean Pak once again start active support of Talibanic fasaad over Afghanistan, and allow them to impose their un Islamic policies anywhere they want in Pakistan.
Imran continues to support such scenarios, and yet people have guts to call him a "liberal".
Imran a liberal? Yeah. And monkeys fly! :)