An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

On one hand it’s positive that Saudis are finally looking introspectively at their own shortcomings..despite having heard so many stories about the attitude of so Saudis..reading it ..is not pleasant

Abdullah Al-Mutairi • Al-Watan

In the shop next to my house, there is a home delivery service which is run by an Indian. He is a good man, hardworking and devoted to his job. I talk to him whenever he delivers something to my house and he talks to me about the time he spent working in Abu Dhabi and of his dream to live in London.

Last week I asked him to deliver a newspaper to my house. When he delivered it to me, he asked me whether I wrote in it. I told him that I did and he asked me to write about why young Saudis hate foreign workers, particularly Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. He asked, “Why do they throw rocks at us when they see us in the street?” He said that in India they were taught to love others because that is the teaching of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). I was moved by his words and promised him that I would write on the subject.

I took his question to my students and started a discussion in class. The students agreed that they had harassed foreigners, particularly South Asians, in the street. One said that seeing a worker in the street was a perfect chance for them to beat him up and then run away. **Some admitted searching for foreign workers to beat up, throw eggs at and generally abuse. I asked my students why they behaved in this way, what was the reason. Some said it was just fun, nothing more or less. Some said it was because those people were weak and unable to fight back. Some said that their favorite pastime was to catch cats, kill them and skin them. I was shocked and disturbed by all this violence and wondered what was causing it. **

The classroom discussion ended but my questions would not go away. Is this violence only committed by children or can we see it at other levels in other forms? How do older people deal with foreign workers? Do the workers feel that we respect them? Sadly, the rude and sarcastic way we often refer to them sprang to my mind. Can such relationships be called humane? Are they based on equality? Are they in keeping with the tenets of Islam?

Do we adult Saudis who sponsor and employ foreigners fulfill the conditions of their contracts — which both we and they have signed? How many housemaids never get a day off?

I remember a worker in the school where I work who was on the job every day and who had not been paid for six months. I remember another unpaid worker who asked humbly and politely for his dues and received nothing but curses and insults. It seems to me that our children’s violent behavior has its origins and roots in the behavior and attitudes of adults. My Indian friend’s question should have thus been directed toward all ages and not just at the young.

Are these things related to education? Can we blame this shameful behavior on a lack of education? The answer came all too quickly to my head. I remembered one of my colleagues, a teacher who belongs to a certain tribe. He believes that a student lacking a tribal name is a man with no roots and hence of no importance. Then I remembered a preacher who visited the school after 9/11 and warned the students against dealing with non-Muslims. I also remember a sheikh in a mosque who would not allow a foreigner to pray next to him — simply because the man was not Saudi.

It is not difficult to come up with examples of our relations with people in our country who belong to different religions and cultures. And I will not discuss our own relations with other Saudis. Many of us will not allow our daughters to marry someone just because he is from a certain place or because, for some reason, we look down on him. Behind all these examples are beliefs and thoughts toward “others” which glorify us and our egos and degrade them and theirs. Such a situation is fertile ground for the idea of hate and infertile ground for the idea of love.

Those brought up to love people will not throw rocks at them and curse them. Those brought up to love people will not degrade those who are different from them? Where is love in our lives? Has it given way to hate? What answer can I give my Indian friend? Is he going to understand that it will take a long time to change this culture of hate? I do not think that it will be easy since so many of us do not want to and so many believe they are unique and the best in the world. I remember when I was in England last summer, arriving at the front door of the house where I was staying. I saw a little girl standing outside the house next to mine. I wondered if she would curse me or throw stones at me or whether she would just look away in disgust. Instead, she carried on watering the flowers in the small garden; then she looked up and waved at me, with a big smile on her face. Could that have happened here?

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

"ya Rafeeeq" - Thats what they call is Rafeeq is consider as a low class citizen and used for every bengali, pakistani, indian.

"ya Mohammad" thats the word they use when they are calling another saudi. Mohammad usually means friend.

lived there for 13 years - interesting memories

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

I am more concerned about why there is so much hatred directed against the Arabs? Is it perhaps because of the media?

I don't see Arabs mass murdering people around the world...

However, there is a nation of people on earth who is at this very moment killing Arabs...For the past decade, that nation has killed millions and continues to do so with impunity everyday...Why not hatred for a killer but hatred for the victim?

So, is media diverting our hatred? Are we being led like sheep to believe something while our minds should be focused someplace else?

The killer cuts the throat while telling us to believe we are the killers, and we feel guilty about it...

Not to mention the writer is based in US and writes for Al-Watan, a paper based in US...

So it's easy to assume he would be one of the many Fareed Zakarias or Mohd. Ali Hassan wannabes...By degrading oneself maybe I'll be granted a higher status in front of the Kuffar...

Bloody sellouts...

And I have family living in KSA, so it's not like I don't know what's going on there...And it certainly is not what this idiot portrays...

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

lajo i agree its to an extreme etc.. but i got few questions for you.

Have you ever been there?
have you ever worked with them?
did you ever sat down and hade dinner with them?
ever went to their private corporate gatherings?

i know five fingers are not equal but they are on one hand right?

I am not claiming the entire nation is bad etc ofcourse not -

my point of view is - they dont treat women right and i have problem with that.

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

Then you should play closer attention to Iraq and Sudan. All Arabs are not bad, but some are.

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The answer to your questions are, yes, yes, yes and no…

As for your women thing, that is simply what we are trained to think here in the west…We are trained to forget about the way women are treated here (single pregnancies, abuses, single mothers, doing everything alone from protection to going around sleeping and fulifling the sexual needs of strange men) by them being covered in the media of hollywood in which women are portrayed as sexy and all powerful…You live here, you really think women live like they show in the movies or TV shows?

And we are trained to think that women in Muslim countries are abused and badly treated…

The biggest clients of the sex trade involving children around the world are not Arabs but Europeans and Americans…

True, a few Arabs do come to wed to India or otherplace, but it’s a wedding…A WEDDING, not illicit prostituion…Last time I heard wedding between a man and a woman, however the age difference, is very much legal and accpeted in Islam…

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

Please enlighten me!

I think you are sitting on a seesaw. You went from one extreme to another - i know its tough to sit in the middle but it can be a real joy on its own.

I want to think different and i want to believe different. Please tell me lajo what else do i suppose to believe, think and feel. Please give examples! enough crap from books lets read the recent news, stories around you, people around you etc.

*first wondering how on earth you know that and you said it with such confident.

You know its sad ke jo loog kafir hain - un ke anko pe to parda hai par MUSLIMS.

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

If thats how the treat Asians there, then **** them. Hope Israel fries there ass. *

  • Not really.

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

When are Pakistanis going to ask themselves that as regards to their attitudes towards people from different provinces, people from India, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan, and Arabs as well?

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

Munni!
I do feel things are getting better between Pakistan and India. Even though they may not be as good as we would want them to be. It took numerous wars and thousands of deaths.

Lack of education is a huge issue in all of those cultures. People are afraid to accept others.

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I've been there too. Their hate for Pakistani and Bengladeshi is quite disgusting. They have more respect for Indians (relatively), Philipinos and off course the whiteys. We can clearly see that its not just us (Pakistanis, subcontinentals) who have astrayed from Islam. We've simply lost it. There are tonnes of issues for "foreigners" living in KINGDOM of SA, they are almost discussed tonnes of times too here....

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

Nia, the issue is a global one and not just confined to the arab lands. Muslims all over the world are very nationalistic and ethnocentric. They are also very defensive of their own sects and their own brand of islam.

We've really truly lost the idea of what it means to be a muslim.

Instead of focusing on our common enemies we go about slandering and slaughtering our own people over petty feuds and meaningless issues.

Instead of calling ourselves muslims we proudly identify ourselves by our various sects, be they sunni, shia, or whatever.

Instead of uniting even under such dire circumstances we choose to go about behaving like idiots.

Many of us so called religious men do treat our women badly. We listen to sidewalk imam's rather than the proper leading imam's who always call for peace and patience.

Many of us just simply choose to ignore islam completely and follow the ways of the west to the letter, worshipping their laws and their leaders / celebrities, calling our religion backward and barbaric.

We are digging our own graves. We know not peace and patience, and instead we choose to excercise violence, destruction, hate and a lack of empathy towards out fellow man and our fellow muslim.

Yeah, im bitter at muslims. However i donot judge islam by muslims, i judge muslims by islam.

Just take a look at these very boards. Many of our so called religious posters keep on spreading hatred. How does that look to the outsider ? When he see's our religious people act that way.........

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

maniac hmmm RIGHT!

Its good to point fingers at but question is HOW can we change it?

What can we do as human beings and muslims to change this?

Its so easy to sit there and take a look at a certain thing from a negative view but i think the real deal comes when you can c hange that negative in to a positive. - i am sure many of you will agree.

What bothers me is this - Usually in KSA they will hire people from outside places and pay them a real good salary- while their behinds sit on nice comfy sofas and enjoy hooka with brothers. They make ridiculous amount of money.

khair again 5 fingers are not equal....

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

stop calling me munni! 6'2" is not munna by any means.

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

^ happy *grin

so lets get back to topic now.. while we are at it... so?

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

What can we do as human beings and muslims to change this? marry fellow human beings!

5 fingers are not equal but middle finger is the most important one. samjhi?

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?


I thought you were clueless only in cricket :p

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

menu maaf karien Captain paaji :frowning:

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

Arabs dont treat south asians that well but as someone said that pachon ugliyan barabar nahi hoteen so there are exceptions everywhere.

our attitude towards foreigners is not that good either.Arabs studying in pakistan face a tough time here.Students dont interact they have to find some one from their country or who shares their language.Even the public transport and the rickshaw walas charge them more.

Some time back in Daily Dawn there was a letter to the editor about the mistreatment of foreigners in islamabad especially those who come from african countries

Re: An Arab asks:Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

I have treated Arabs- I have met both here as well as home well.. like paying for tea/coffee from my pocket, giving them directions, teaching them how to eat paan etc.