Amir Muwiya's conversion to Islam

[aqeel123]

Re: Amir Muwiya’s conversion to Islam

@bao_bihari

Please be patient, will get back once i get free.

In the meanwhile read this.

When Shias use sunni reference they do pick and choose from our sources rather presenting the complete picture. Further more our believe is not based on narrations from Hadrat Muawiya:razi: so for us as narration for his virtues are more then historical biased accounts of the wars among sahabah. We hold Hdrat Ali:razi: more then Hadrat Muawiya:razi:

Transmitted by Majlisi in “Bihar” (32/324); Burjardi “Jamiu ahadeth ash-shia” (13/93):

• • قرب الإسناد: ابن طريف عن ابن علوان عن جعفر عن أبيه أن عليا (عليه السلام) كان يقول لأهل حربه: إنا لم نقاتلهم على التكفير لهم ولم نقاتلهم على التكفير لنا ولكنا رأينا أنا على حق ورأوا أنهم على حق.*
    *٢٩٨ - قرب الإسناد: بالاسناد قال: إن عليا لم يكن ينسب أحدا من أهل حربه إلى الشرك ولا إلى النفاق ولكنه كان يقول: هم إخواننا بغوا علين

297 - al-Humairi by his chain: ibn Tareef - Ibn Alwan - Jafar - Father - 'Ali (alaihi salam) used to say regarding those who fought against him: **We do not fight with them because we make Takfeer on them, and we do not fight them because they make Takfeer on us. But we see that we are upon truth, and they see that they are upon truth.

298 - al-Humairi by his chain: **'Ali didn’t attribute anyone from those who fought with him to shirk or to hypocrisy, but he used to say: Our brothers which revolted against us.

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Explanation: 'Ali (ra) and his team did not fight Mu’awiyah (a) and his team because they thought they were Kouffar or Mushrikeen or Munafiqeen, And Mu’awiyah (ra) and his team did not fight 'Ali (ra) and his team because they thought they were Kouffar or Mushrikeen or Munafiqeen. Each team saw that they were doing the right thing and that they were upon truth, 'Ali (ra) used to call his opponents as his "Brothers who transgressed against him.

Some copy paste in reply to copy paste from answering ansar.

You got some copy paste from Quran in reply to copy paste i did from Quran ?

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إذا رأيتم الذين يسبون أصحابي فقولوا‏:‏ لعنة الله على شركم‏

If you see those who criticize my companions, say to them

“May the curse of Allah be on the evil of you”

I will say:

لعنة الله على شركم‏**

Off topic:

Yaaar kahan kahan sey bhago gey ? Sir cover kertay ho to legs cover nahi rehtieen, Legs cover kertay ho to sir nanga ho jata hai.

Now atleast admit that sending lanat is okay. YAZID per lanat !

And by same token, lanat on those who started cursing Imam Ali a.s and those who followed them.

@psyah

Peace aqeel123

What are you implying by this? I do see what justified?

@psyah

When people accept Islam it is necessary that those around them should treat them as family … There is no room for suspicion - that comes from the devil** even if the suspicion is justified**.

In the case of the Sahabah (RA) who were close to the time of RasoolAllah (SAW) … we have nothing on them and hence should be silent regarding them. Learn from the hadith and that is it.

Psyah bro, i honestly think u dont belong to this thread, now i feel bad from replying to ur post earlier.