America's next war

what ever the economics, history is witness that usa has always been involved in wars. ww’s, vietnam, korea, iraq, afghanistan and others that I am lazy to mention here.

I have no doubt that they will start another war in a couple of years, probably sooner if republicans come back to power.

But where will they strike next ?

  1. Iran
  2. Pakistan
  3. ???

I had previously thought that they dont need to start a war in Pakistan since they already have all the politicians in their control any ways. But usa’s military and other industries have to sell stuff and those are big industries with powerful people in control, so Pakistan is a fair game too.

But the question I have is where next ?

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America is in no way strong enough to make a ground war on either Pakistan or Iran. Americans are stretched as it is in Afghanistan.

With Iran they would most likely use the time tested British imperialist method of letting the other thug states like Saudi Arabia and the GCC do its dirty work, just as the British conquered India by playing off the Nizam of Hyderabad and the Maratha Peshwas against other Indian powers.

With Pakistan again the USA cant afford a direct clash as it would be far too costly so perhaps getting India on board would be the only way they could pull off a serious win.

Speaking of India both they and Pakistan have a poor homegrown "heavy" millitary. India does produce some nominal small arms with the likes of INSAS and TATA bringing usefull weaponry to the table but the Indian nation does not have a history of armed factions with autonomous almost purpose built proffesional millitia such as the Tribals of Pakistan.

Both countries rely heavily on foriegn sources for thier bigger weapons, Pakistan used to heavily rely on the USA and India relied more on the Soviets... the powers now shifted with Pakistan relying more on China and India taking help from USA and Isreal. Offcourse other countries also sell thier weapons to both sides such as Britian, Germany and France. Whereas Russia does still have an arms industry they tend to play thier cards wisely and only export the inferior weaponry while keeping thier top trumps for themselves..

In the long run even if India and America combined against Pakistan that would still not garuntee them success as any long war would result in both sides suffering heaviy and any gains for the Americans would be pyhric. Plus the possibility of global war.

Now warfare has moved on a lot but at the same time its evolving almost backwards as well... In World Wars 1 and 2 a small force did not have as much affect as the massive armies that were in play... but these days assymetric warfare has so much potential and even rag tag millitia can prove devastating to the best of proffesional millitary establishments.

I pray fervently that there is no war becuase the loss of lives cannot at this time be justified...

Personally I think wars will be waged on a much smaller and more covert scale to those of the past becuase the modernworld is losing its patience and a global war would be utterly devastating and the last thing any sane person would want.

If only battles were fought the old way then there would still be a fair chance of avoiding innocent bloodshed... at least civillians had the option of fleeing.

Todays intercontinental weapons make no distinctions and will flatten countries no problem but sadly the man pushing the buttons probably would not last 3 rounds of real combat.

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how is United States Government going to start another war when they are bankrupt and penniless?

America has been drained and humiliated in Iraq and afghanistan to say they will open 3rd war in Iran or elsewhere is not viable.

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Well not quite penniless...

The Americans are cleverly selling weaponry to Arab states whose own humanitarian records are woefull. But the Saudis and their Ilk will happily pay the Americans for any weaponry that will give them an edge on the Iranian rivals.

America gains in two ways... obviously at first they cash in on lots of weapons deals. Secondly they get these Arab states to do thier dirty work.

One begs to ask the question who are the Americans to decide which side is right or wrong... the way I see it both the Saudis and the Iranians are flawed theocracies... however the Saudis get Choudary America's backing so the world wont ask questions.

Shamefull really.

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US will not fight a war in Middle East, his intentions are focused on Far East now.

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And i thought they are going to have new front in Antarctica, where the evil regime of Penguins are sitting on OIL reserves...As we all know, Penguins do not believe in democracy and even distribution of Fish ( local currency of Penguin Regime) so it is possible that US pick this front ( basic idea taken from US TV show)

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I think Penguins have a vastly superior army though and the Penguin federation has troops across the World… especially large numbers in the Northern Hemisphere as well as a large contingent in South Africa who have training in Gorrila warfare…

These Penguins might also be harbouring rouge Al Qaeda forces who are training them on bomb making skills and some say they plan to target major shipping lanes as well as mount attacks on airspace by hijacking planes…

Its obvious from the leadership of the Penguin regime that brutally cracks down on all who refuse to wear the white and black that they will stop at nothing until they return the whole world to Black and white Era… we are in for tough times ahead.

Only Team America can save us now… :yawn:

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that means Penguins are terrorists!

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This is basically what could happen after 10 or so years but not right now. I reckon USA will remain pretty non interventionist for at least few years. As with Iran, that could be Israel's war, not America's. I hope I'm proven wrong, we really don't want any more conflict and bloodshed in the region.

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well many would say they have already begun in Pakistan, they just don't have a big flashing sign saying 'we are at war'.

you can see it bubbling in the media, the same preparation of the minds for the acceptance of this new target.

money is such as abstract concept. do they have bombs? yes. that's all they need.

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Unlike popular belief, US is actually not that stupid. Why would US involve itself in a direct war that would entail ground troops, as that would transfer some of the advantage to the pakistanis?

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Don’t underestimate the AIPAC’s influence on American leaders and media. When it comes to protecting Zionist interests, they are stupid and proud of it.

Here is one latest US presidential hopeful promising to start the war with another coutry:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-01/santorum-says-he-would-threaten-air-strikes-against-iran.html
Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum said he would use air strikes against Iran unless the country dismantled its nuclear program or allowed inspectors to verify that the work isn’t aimed at making a weapon.

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I dont think they need any war with pakistan, they gained through cooperation with us what maybe they couldnt have gained through war. Iran might be!

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Yeah no kidding. It’s ridiculous how America bows before Israel. Jews need to stop supporting right wing Israeli governments.

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They do not believe in democracy and at same time they are sitting on huge oil reserves.... so yes that make them terrorists!!!

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which countries in Far East ?

I don't think US will ever attack any nuclear state and Pakistan and Iran are both nuclear powers !

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money is such as abstract concept. do they have bombs? yes. that's all they need.
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Money is the root of everything they say...

How you going to pay for fuel for your bomber planes, War ships etc???

How are you going to pay your soldiers? You think the US army fights for free?

You need to pay spies, traitors guides and map companies.... its more complicated than playing Call of Duty you know....

Furthermore they are not the only ones with weapons boards dont hit back philosophy. War does not always bless those with the big guns.... victory has been attained by some oddball candidates too... much is made of Vietnam but it was not the only modern Assymetric war... Iran and Iraq war is another good example as is the Angolan civil war and many other fights were a far weaker army smashed the bigger army or won the war eventually.

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^ war => stimulus => growth => money

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Or.....

War => Mass deaths => Austerity measures => Increased spending => Increased taxes => Broken armies => Ruined infrastructure => Dangerous global relations.

War can be very damaging for all sides involved, defender and attacker suffer a lot particulalry modern wars are not a short run affair and tend to drag things for a long time with very few meaningfull treaties or parleys between parties.

The overall lack of diplomacy in globabl politics is shamefull as many big arguements can be easily solved but nobody is willing to listen to the arguements.

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I don't think you understand what I mean. There will always be "money", it's meaningless now.