Anyone seen the movie yet? Been hearing controversial comments from it.
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damn good movie.
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Pamper wearing commondos do need support of media to make them heros.
These cowards are zananis in the battle field
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And how many wars have you fought Bao jee?
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i am talking about faujis habibi.
Waisay i have seen them in afghanistan ![]()
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I wouldn’t judge someone for wearing a pamper, because I’ve never been in battle myself. Hell if were to go, I’d take pampers or whatever it took to keep me alive. But I am not gonna go, because IEDs aren’t fun.
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Its not just pamper, most of american machos are coward @ battle field. i heard that russian were much better and brave fighters.
Use Google and see how they are literally crying in battle field, you wont see that in their opponents. khayr sano ki
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Anyone who steps on the battlefield in brave. Soldiers are simply carrying out their duty. No amount of pay suffices to compensate for the risk to their lives.
Personally, I can’t understand why we would mock soldiers. As far as Google is concerned, one can get information that suits ones agenda from the Google.
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That didn’t help them much though. They had to leave Afghanistan too.
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Someone once said bravery is not “not being scared in the face of danger, but it is to be scared and doing what must be done” … I sympathise with many American soldiers on the battlefield they are in tears because they don’t know why they are fighting and killing people. We are in the times when the person being killed does not know his crime and the one killing does not know why he is killing.
We must return to reason and we must as a human race stop war for the sake of a bit of short lived power. No human lives beyond 100 or so years …
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Personally, I can’t understand why a soldier would invade a Muslim country and then mock and kill Muslim civilians?
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The purpose of war is to win it, not showcase the bravado. You don’t wage a war simply for waging it, you do it to win it. Just because courage is important in your culture, doesnt mean others value it over stupidity.
As far as soldiers crying in the battlefield, you have to know the makeup of the american army to understand that. Most of these are kids just out of high school and often come from middle or lower-middle class families, some are immigrants; they join so they can serve for a few years and pave the way for a better life for themselves and their families. I don’t think they care about things like courage, machoness or even the politics of the conflict.
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Courage and bravery are often seen in high regard in mostly tribal society
In post-industrial society it is intelligence that is valued over everything else, since these societies solve their problems through innovation than war ![]()
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As stated in my earlier post, the soldier is simply performing his or her duty.
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Is killing and abusing civilians part of his duties?
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I haven’t seen the movie. So I don’t know if you are referring to some scenes there.
Answer is - of course not.
Personally, I don’t think any war since World War II was justified. I didn’t think so when the wars started. I don’t think so now. Was, am and will be a peacenik
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Here are a few reviews of the book from Goodreads.
"I was all excited when I purchased this book, expecting a Carlos Hathcock type tale of derring-do. What a letdown - I was sick of Mr Kyle by page 5.
To begin with, I’m not sure who to credit for this bit of writing; I suspect that Kyle contributed little but the anecdotal accounts and his name to the effort, as two other names are listed with his on the cover. Interestingly, his wife is not given any co-author status although she provides significant input throughout the book.
Now all feelings about the propriety of this very controversial armed incursion into Iraq aside, one thing that turned me off about Kyle was his total lack of regard for his opponent. They’re all “evil” or “blinded by evil” throughout this book. What makes them evil is never satisfactorily explained; perhaps Mr Bush’s “axis of evil” speech had something to do with it. Anyway, lightly armed Iraqis who oppose heavily armed and armoured coalition troops on Iraqi soil are “evil” and “terrorists”. He states several times that he is getting payback. Payback for what, exactly? He also repeatedly claims to be defending his country, although I know of no attempt on the USA by Iraq.
I fully understand that he doesn’t decide to send the troops over, and that he has a job to do, but please, Mr Kyle…just a little more regard for the human beings you’re killing? Maybe a little remorse for the retarded kid you pounded because he didn’t understand you? Hello…he’s retarded…and he speaks another lanuage…what the hell did you expect?? People like Mr Kyle are a large part of the reason that the citizens of the USA are held in such disdain by many foreigners. His pomposity and vainglory ooze off of every page.
And the violence! I’m not talking about warfare here…I’m talking recreational violence. Bar fights. Destruction of property. Beating a fellow up because the victim’s girlfriend was in an argument with another SEAL. Maybe he figured the other SEAL couldn’t handle her? I cannot believe this chap didn’t end up in jail. In one chapter he gleefully tells about beating a celebrity because he thought the celebrity (a former governor) was disrespecting a SEAL wake or some such BS. He neglects to mention that the celebrity is now in his 60’s. Look it up on Youtube - you can see the “hero” chortling about it on a radio interview.
If this book is worth reading at all, it’s only to see the decline in the American military. Apparently the officers have no control. Hazing is rampant. Citizens are beaten with apparent impunity. Childish behaviour like mooning neighbours and chasing Iraqis with radio-controlled vehicles are considered legitimate pastimes. I could go on and on…suffice it to say I won’t buy any more books with this fellow’s name on them. But if his wife wants to write a book about how she survived living with a self-centred vainglorious manchild, I’m buying it…her contributions were the only parts of the book that made any sense."
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Alex de G
"This book was, without a doubt, one of the worst pieces of literature I have ever wasted my time with.
I was recommended this book by a colleague; and I wish I had the hours back that it took to read.
The author comes across as an unsympathetic, often racist, gun-ho “shoot first, think later”-type - some of the best quotes:
- “I don’t shoot people with Korans - I’d like to, but I don’t”
- “At times, [killing] was a game”
- “Giving them [the Iraqi people] the tools they needed to progress is not what my job was all about. my job was killing, not teaching”
Ah, how I cringed at the story of the mentally handicapped child
- “I punched him and slapped him to the ground.”
Classy.
What about his slogan, “violence does solve problems”. And to close out, Chris attempts to save face “I think America does a lot to support people”. Yeah, sure, buddy.
What a horrible book."
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Keith
"To start with this book is poorly written which makes it a pain to read, but the real point taken from this book is just how clueless the author can be.
I’ve know plenty of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, they signed up for the military to DEFEND our country then they’re shipped overseas to OFFEND other countries. Most soldiers I’ve known have had the good sense to realize they’ve been lied to and used by the U.S. government for war profiteering. This author however thinks Iraqis are “evil” for wanting to defend their own country! How absurd is that? He had no problem killing people because he fell for the brainwashing he was given that Iraqis are inherently evil and have no right to freedom, life, or property.
It amazes me that someone can have so many experiences that should show their own hypocrisy yet they still fail to realize it. If the U.S. was invaded by a foreign army that claimed we were just inherently evil and deserved to die wouldn’t this author think we’d have the right to defend ourselves? I know I would defend our country, and I know if I was Iraqi and some foreign invader came in to steal my property and freedom then I’d defend myself as well.
Overall the book shows just how foolish some U.S. citizens are. If this guy can be on the front line watching our military murder and steal and not see through the propaganda that’s led him to not only wasting his life, but serving out the orders of a tyrannical empire, then it shows that people at home will have an even harder time using their heads.
If you read this book with an understanding of the wars, property rights, the difference between offense and defense, etc. then the book provides a good look into how a government can distort a persons view of the world to use them for their own gain."
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Here’s an article that proves how the American media’s propaganda against Muslims.
https://storify.com/RaniaKhalek/american-sniper-chris-kyle-in-his-own-words