American looking for some advice,

Re: American looking for some advice,

BigBOB,

Tell your daughter all the truth, show her all the documentary proofs you have & let her decide, because u can tell her but cannot force her. I am 100000% sure ... she will dump him. But please do advise her to stay away from this man. This man is a problem. She is young, I am sure he will find someone else nice.

If she is interested in Pakistan men, I'd suggest she finds someone of her age group not someone almost double her age. Not all Pakistani men are bad, not all are good.

BTW, I am Pakistani & married to a white European for 7 years now.

Re: American looking for some advice,

That’s the problem, she is totally hooked on him right now, I can’t believe the change in her, she’s a totally different person and one I’m not liking very much.

thanks for your kind words!

Re: American looking for some advice,

Mr Big, I truly understand the situation you're in since sons and daughters do not want interference from parents in matters of "love"

The very best thing you can do for your girl is to let her know that you are her DAD, you love her unconditionally and always will. Help her understand that no one will ever love her as much or as unconditionally as her family will. That you dont trust the guy's intentions and you have good solid reasons for that mistrust - but even given that, she;s still your girl and you';re there for her thru it all.

If you want to have her mail me, to talk about american gal being married to desi guy, please feel free. Again, I wish you the very best of outcomes...with a super dad like you, I'm sure she'll figure things out and come out of this just fine.

Re: American looking for some advice,

brotha's got some game.

Re: American looking for some advice,

:hmmm: Love eh…does strange things to you :naraz: stupid stupid love :aj:

ahem…like Mamaof3 said, let her know that you will always be with her. Sooner or later she’ll realise, and just hope for the best. :slight_smile:

Re: American looking for some advice,

sorry to hear that mate.. the guy sounds like a complete wanker..

show your daughter the proofs you have about him and hope she comes to her senses, he's just a perv, he doesn't love her..

you know it's at times like these that i thank the Lord i'm from a conservative muslim family and it's acceptable in our culture to bring girls up protectively, i've no daughters but if my sister (God forbid) was in that situation i'd die of worry.

Re: American looking for some advice,

That’s sick, he should have some respect for other beliefs especially since we Muslims are very sensitive about our own.

He’s not really a Muslim if he mocked one of the religious figures of Christianity such as Jesus :as:, Mary:as: or the biblical Prophets because Muslims revere them too and even though we don’t believe in the trinity we believe in the same God (Jehovah/‘The Father’/Elohim) as Christians.

Re: American looking for some advice,

I suggest you listen to mamaof3. Sometimes we know that someone is bad for us, but we cant admit it to ourselves. Maybe this is an experience that she has to go through for herself? Be there for her and its redundant for me to even mention this, but don't judge her (re: her "stupidity").

Let her know explicitly how and what you feel about this man. Even outline a case if you will, but don't alienate her. Explain how important it is for you that she stay near (as opposed to move)?

Good luck

Re: American looking for some advice,

He mocked Jesus, he tried to act like he was teasing her afterwards but it was uncalled for and sick. My daughter knows better than to put up with such behavior but she allows him to get away with it. It makes me sad to see her abandon her beliefs because of him, its like he’s brainwashed her.

Re: American looking for some advice,

how do you know he is not lying about his nationality? he sounds like an Indian to me :D

Re: American looking for some advice,

Besides him telling my daughter about his family in Pakistan I was able to find out that he graduated from Rawalpindi Medical College.

He told my daughter that he has a sister in the US , a brother who's in the military in Pakistan, another sister and brother that lives with his mother in Pakistan. He's suppose to fly them in for the wedding, she's never met any of them.

Re: American looking for some advice,

kay so 1st of all
NOT ALL PAKIZ R LYK THAT
jus 2 assure ya

n this guy that ur daughter iz involved with does not sound suitable 4 her
love is all abt trust...if he cant trust her enuff 2 tell her the truth n not lies...then tell ur daughter that he aint worth it

Re: American looking for some advice,

i'd say Mamaof3 has given the most solid advice yet. you must reinforce to your daughter that you love her and will always be a support to her. do everything you can in this situation to stand by her side- even if she's upset with you and most likely she will be after she hears your concerns, and more so when she finds out you've been investigating him- STAND BY HER.

if indeed this relationship continues to go forward, and i sincerely hope that she realises this man and his lies are just not the right foundation for a happy relationship, she will need you more than ever, even if she might not realise it or be grateful for it right now.

be sure to stay in touch with her if she moves away with him. it just sounds like he's trying to control the things he says to her and controls the people she meets- today its the neighbour, tomorrow will he tell her oh i dont like your friends or stop having your parents call/come around cos i dont like- then what?

have you sat down and had a man to man talk?
i know that no matter the culture, thats a rite that occurs across the world and perhaps its time you sat down with him in a very non-confrontational environment and with a non-confrontational manner and ask him what the deal is. surely that is your right as a father and it might give you more insight into him. the guy is 50- its something he should be able to handle with no problems and certainly shouldn't object to- after all, he's marrying your daughter!

what was your daughter's initial attraction to him? where and how did they meet?

as an aside a medical condition is nothing to be ashamed of and certainly nothing to lie about. i don't know how relevant this might be but about half my family are diabetics and they usually inject themselves in the stomach or thighs and must take insulin before every meal... i don't know if its helpful, but maybe you could find out where he was injecting himself? and how come if shes living with him, she hasn't ever seen any insulin in his fridge or any used needles in his trash.

Re: American looking for some advice,

DARE anyone?

Re: American looking for some advice,

She'll be moving away once their married and yes I'm well aware that he's trying to distance her from her family and friends, she's already lost most of her friends.

He hasn't had the decency to speak with me about them moving over 1200 miles away from her family. The only talk I'll have with him will be to inform him that he'll be sorry if he hurts her.

She wasn't attracted to him when they first met, a co-worker of hers was seeing one of his friends and set them up.

I know all about diabetes, one of my friends is diabetic. My daughter has never even seen him check his blood sugar, I don't know what he was shooting up but I bet it was not insulin. He doesn't eat on a regular schedule like a diabetic would and he eats whatever he wants other than pork.

Re: American looking for some advice,

ya kind of looks one....

Re: American looking for some advice,

bigbob, you are quite a sherlock holmes :)

Thanks for explaining, They guy seems to be an experienced player with a crocked nature. We call these type of people simply as fraudia

I would also suggest you to listen to mamaof3 in post 23. she is most relevent counsel here for you.

I would like to take the liberty in saying that your daughter, while being an american sounds like very Pakistani girl. The traits you mentioned (hard working, loving , protective, caring etc,) are quite rampant in traditional pakistani girls, who live in pakistan but sometime they too have to face hardluck, in shape of manipulative and moronic guys.

Re: American looking for some advice,

u have 2 be careful though if u keep tellin your daughter this man is not good for her which he obviously isnt then she mite distance herself from u. all u can do is tell her ur always there for her and love her etc etc.

Re: American looking for some advice,

what? what?

Re: American looking for some advice,

He is not a Muslim anymore if he mocked Jesus :as:, in Islam it’s a sin to even mock the religious figures of false/pagan religions and Jesus Christ :as: is one of our own Prophets of Islam, so he has committed blasphemy against a Prophet of God and is therefore not Muslim anymore.

Even though we don’t believe Jesus :as: to be a part of God (1/3) or His literal son we do believe him to be a Prophet of God and His Messiah born through virginal conception and we await his second coming (descent from heaven) to help the Muslims. We also have a high regard for the Virgin Mary :as:…

:as: = Peace be upon him