America taking over Pakistan

In the past, in order to invade a land, nations used their physical powers, like wars and colonization. However, America has recently developed an entirely new strategy to invade a country.

And that is… the Kerry-Lugar bill.

It has not been many days since the bill has been passed, and we can already see the conditions beginning to grow. A recent condition is that Americans will have the right to check how the US aid is being used by the Pakistani Army.

Not to be forgotten that it is clearly stated that this aid is to be used in the better interest of America that is by doing military operations in different areas of Pakistan and it must be used to finish Al-Qaeda and other taliban groups.

How is America slowly invading Pakistan is evident from all the news stories that we get to hear each day.

Apart from the American Army that is dwelling on Pakistani land (commonly known as Black Water), many American citizens have also migrated into Pakistan, in order to keep a proper check on all the happenings.

More than 300 houses have been rented in Islamabad for these people. A few of them are close to Abdul Qadeer Khan’s residence. It is feared that these Americans might kidnap him as well.

Few houses are near the Kahuta Laboratory in Islamabad. This lab is used for the training of our police and no unauthorized person is allowed to enter it. However, these Americans are allegedly spying on this lab through radio-active devices. A few days ago, some Americans were arrested by police for roaming around in Kahuta Lab’s restricted area. The police held them in custody for a long time, but they were soon released when higher authority personnel came to their rescue.
What American embassy had to say about it? They said, they knew of no spying and no radio-active devices, and they only have access to places where the Pakistani government has allowed them.
Aren’t many things becoming clear now? We, merely some students, can see what is happening and what can happen, then why can our government not see the truth?
They keep on saying we will see positive prospects of this bill, but I ask them, WHEN? And even if there are any positive aspects, where are they? Why can’t we see them? Why aren’t you able to tell them? Why is it that you’re not being able to justify yourselves?
Do we all not know what a jewel Pakistani land is? Do not the Americans know that? Doesn’t America know that it cannot destroy Pakistan through wars? Ofcourse, it does!
Answer yourself… Don’t you all think America has won in proving Pakistanis to be idiots?!?

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The Kerry-Luger bill's conditions have been watered down based on severe objections by the Pakistan military and government. You need to catch up on the news buddy.

waise what's wrong for somebody who give money for a particular purpose wanting to make sure it is not misdirected?

America is not at all interested in Pakistan lands as you imply. They are just looking to contain the lands being used by terrorists as a base

Are you nuts or something ?? Liar... Nothing in the bill changed...

Indian scum!

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Ofcourse, the bill hasnt changed at all.. and now, other conditions are being put as well...
I know there's problem in them to check where their aid is going.. But it sure is a problem when they are manipulating our Army by giving money to them.. Its equal to selling yourself off. Army is the strongest aspect of a nation, and if you give that away to foreign hands, you lose your sovereignty.
American civilians are doing anything they want to in Pakistan, and we are saying that its their right..

And how can you say that America is not after Pakistani land? Do you not know the importance of it? I bet, you don't!

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Emile, but for rooting out the terrorist camps, why do you think Pakistan has any value for America? what is it that America doesn't have that Pakistan has to offer? nothing.

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Im curious. Why exactly does America want to take over Pakistan?

If they are interested in our resources surely it is cheaper to buy them from us. BlackWater is a for profit country that costs a lot of money to them. Conversely, the resources that Pakistan does have to sell, we struggle to get people interested in.

But you may say its not about resources, its about strategic location. OK. What exactly are they trying to do? Surround Iran? They are IN afghanistan and Iraq and Bahrain. How much more would they want to surround Iran? Is Iran really this formidable? Who else? China? If so, why isnt China putting up a bigger fight?

So lets have at it. leave aside the question of whether or not this is a conspiracy, explain what Pakistan has to offer.

Indian scum floated out a while back lansing sahib. you should read up on history as well as current news. On this topic here is one that will help:

DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Time not suitable for political point scoring: Qureshi

He (Querishi) said a joint explanatory statement was prepared and signed by chairmen of Foreign Relations Committees of House of Representatives and Senate and was attached to the bill to address the concerns. Moreover, he said conditions were not imposed on Pakistan but on the executive branch by US Congress. He said he gave a detailed statement in parliament on the issue and it was now up to the House and the government to take a decision.
Makhdoom Shah Mehmood Qureshi said he believed that there was no ambiguity in the US aid bill after the attachment of an explanatory statement with it and the visit of Senator John Kerry to Pakistan.

What difference does it make when sellouts like Shah Mahmood Q, Rehman Malik and Zardari say anything? None! Nada..

Nobody is deaf and blind here. The wording of the bill are still the same which is quite unfortunate. Pakistan is in a state of slavery in the 21st century.

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Shah Mhd Q is the guy who went to the US and got the water down explanatory statement signed. Yo should be thanking him

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Firstly, Pakistan is a nuclear state(hint)...
Secondly, Pakistan not only has resources and a strategic position, but also has great power. The defeat of Pakistan means American victory over the Muslim states... and the downfall of Muslims...
And if you're asking what America can get from us.. then can you answer me what it wanted from Iraq and Afghanistan?
America, since a long time, have been doing all efforts to break the chain of Muslim countries on the map.
Moreover.. Can't you see the money-oriented nature of our leaders? There is corruption everywhere, only because of the lust for money... It is not a matter of time for our Army to get rid to terrorism here... But what if that happens? Who is going to give us the aid? Where will the dollars come from? Any idea?

So, in order to get rid of our nuclear assets they'll take over the whole country?

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Secondly, Pakistan not only has resources and a strategic position, but also has great power. The defeat of Pakistan means American victory over the Muslim states... and the downfall of Muslims...

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Why does America want the downfall of Muslims? What is the motivation there, and also why does the downfall of Pakistan, specifically, mean the downfall of Muslims? They have several important Muslim states in subservience.. Saudi Arab for example. If they had a missions statement saying: Conquer Muslims.. why is Pakistan on that list? Conversely you have several powerful, populous Muslim countries relatively untouched by the US. Malaysia/Indonesia for example. Does seem like certain Muslims are more important than others doesnt it, especially Pakistani Muslims.

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And if you're asking what America can get from us.. then can you answer me what it wanted from Iraq and Afghanistan?

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Afghanistan is easy. They wanted someone to attack after 9/11 and Afghanistan was saying we wont give you Bin Laden. Iraq is more difficult. Lots of explanations... Bush wanting to please his dad... tons of oil.. location. Nothing really satisfactory there.

So is your claim that american wars arent motivated by economic interest?

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America, since a long time, have been doing all efforts to break the chain of Muslim countries on the map.

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Find it hard to believe that America would spend the money required to go to war just to make a nicer map. Theres a pretty long chain of Muslim countries in Africa.

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Moreover.. Can't you see the money-oriented nature of our leaders? There is corruption everywhere, only because of the lust for money... It is not a matter of time for our Army to get rid to terrorism here... But what if that happens? Who is going to give us the aid? Where will the dollars come from? Any idea?
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So the money oriented leaders of Pakistan are conning america into getting dollars? That may be true, but doesnt really show that America is taking over Pakistan does it.

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"you must be an indian!"

what resources? America has more untapped energy than anyother country.

Nuclear, strategic position, Iraq/Afghanistan : answer is the same . They just want to stop terrorism and punish the terrorists by catching them where they train.

Muslim countries - America has 6+M muslims. Plus they are in friendly terms with India which has as many muslims as Pakistan as well as Saudi Arabia which is the centre of Islam.

Stop fooling yourself

why do you say that?

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If you have ever read the world history properly, you would understand why the Americans want to defeat the Muslims... America just needs any reason at all to attack Muslim states. Name me a single non-Muslim state that was attacked by America.
America never has justifiable reason for its attacks.
If America wasn't against the Muslims, why would it support the Israelis in their war against Palestine?
As far as Saudia Arabia is concerned, are you aware of the fact that Saudia Arab is the BIGGEST AMERICAN AGENT of all?
Mayalsia and Indonesia are far from the Muslim chain. America wants to get rid of any threat that comes in its way, on its course to conquer the world.
And do you really think that America is our friend? Would our prominent leaders be treated in such a shameful way by them if that was so?

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I would also ask you to stop fooling yourself..
While you are dreaming about the Americans being your soul-mates, they sit at your back laughing their horses off!

I honestly suggest that you read some history and see how the non-Muslims have always tried to fool the Muslims with similar strategies... and the downfall only came when the Muslims believed in them.

It is high time that we realize these things before it gets too late.

uh, serbia? remember....in order to stop them killing bosnian muslims?

Okay, i'll play. Germany, Italy, Japan, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Korea, Mexico.

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If America wasn't against the Muslims, why would it support the Israelis in their war against Palestine?

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You're shifting the goalposts. Its not American is against the Muslims, as opposed to america is taking over Pakistan.

At any rate, their support for Israel probably has a lot to do with the power of the jewish lobby, which is interested in keeping Israel afloat for obvious reasons.

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As far as Saudia Arabia is concerned, are you aware of the fact that Saudia Arab is the BIGGEST AMERICAN AGENT of all?

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Fine, that wasnt the point though. If they have Saudi Arab as the biggest american agent, they have succeeded in their goal of the downfall of Muslims. Why is Pakistan on the agenda?

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Mayalsia and Indonesia are far from the Muslim chain. America wants to get rid of any threat that comes in its way, on its course to conquer the world.

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And Pakistan is a threat to America's "conquer" of the world? Define conquer first. What does it mean? And what is the Muslim chain? Why arent Malaysia and Indonesia a part of it?

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And do you really think that America is our friend? Would our prominent leaders be treated in such a shameful way by them if that was so?
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I dont think they are our friends. They are motivated by their interests. And I am merely questioning why taking over Pakistan is in their interest. Something tangible.

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Okay, i'll play. Germany, Italy, Japan, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Korea, Mexico.
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Alright, my bad this time... This debate is only on different points of view. Every one has their own. Yours might differ from mine...! But this doesn't mean im backing out!

I dont want to get into religious aspects of this now!

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alrite.