It was shocking to to read about acts of T E R R O R I S M by two native americans in american cities in recent days and guess what !
no news channel no major website reporting the incident called them Terrorists :k:
This what we can call act of pristine terrorism with no other motive, apart from causing terrror and taking lives after terrorising them. Bravo hypocrite media Long live fair journalism :lajawab:
They should change the Dictionary definition to "an act of causing terror, while killing or harming innocent civilians and is performed by someone belonging to middle east or someone from muslim origin is called terrorism"
Re: Amercian Gunman on shooting spree ! No dammit he is a freaking terrorist !
^ How convenient
You equate a terrorist’s indiscriminant killing of innocent men women and children and attack on places of worship with some stupid gang war.
This is hieght of apathy. Innocent victim of extreme madness are not worthy of remorse than gangsters for you. Well done m2k :k:
Next you might say that American terrorist was phsycho and his mental condition was not stable. But by the same token judging from past/present behaviour we can say similar stuff for american leadership.
This is pure form of terrorism. It caused trauma and shock. Terrorism for political reason is mostly quite dubious for example, American bombing on an afghan wedding party resulting in few dozen casualty of innocent people is not terrorism, it is collateral damage. But if a boy survive from this attack grow up and become a teenage suicide bomber to avenge the barbaric indiscriminate killing of family then, he is definitley a terrorist, extremist
Re: Amercian Gunman on shooting spree ! No dammit he is a freaking terrorist !
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It was shocking to to read about acts of T E R R O R I S M by two native americans in american cities in recent days and guess what !
no news channel no major website reporting the incident called them Terrorists :k:
Re: Amercian Gunman on shooting spree ! No dammit he is a freaking terrorist !
Terrorism is not just commiting an act of causing terror, while killing or harming innocent civilians. It is when the act has the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, usually for political ideological reasons. These were mass murderers, not terrorists.
Now if you want to point to examples where people have blown up abortion clinics and were not referred to as terrorists, you have a point.
BTW, I don't see any reports where these murderers were descendants of the indigenous peoples of the Western Hemisphere, so I don't think they were Native Americans.
Re: Amercian Gunman on shooting spree ! No dammit he is a freaking terrorist !
No what I am doing is telling you each incident has a different label attached to it
Like the bombings in Algeria yesterday, those were terrorist attacks because it was done to achieve a political objective such as the Islamification of Algeria, etc…
What happened in Germany was a mafia shoot out, and thus the media correctly called it a Gangland Shootout
What happened in USA recently was a bunch of deranged gun men killing people
Re: Amercian Gunman on shooting spree ! No dammit he is a freaking terrorist !
How do these "concepts" explain that Chechneans were labeled as 'hostage-takers" and "rebels" by most western media despite a suicide bomber killing 9 people outside a Moscow subway station, downing 2 airliners by suicide bombs in August 2004 killing all 89 people aboard, and October 2002 siege of a Moscow theater that left 120 dead?
Re: Amercian Gunman on shooting spree ! No dammit he is a freaking terrorist !
How do these "concepts" explain that Chechneans were labeled as 'hostage-takers" and "rebels" by most western media despite a suicide bomber killing 9 people outside a Moscow subway station, downing 2 airliners by suicide bombs in August 2004 killing all 89 people aboard, and October 2002 siege of a Moscow theater that left 120 dead?
The BBC might have called them this because its left leaning
And besides, haven't you learned anything....
Saudis regularly call people who blow up buildings in Saudi Arabia terrorists, where as if they do the same in Iraq or Israel, they are called martyrs or resistance fighters
Pakistan does the same thing and so does any other country
Its about damn time you realized that the Western Media owes nothing to you or the Islamic World
If a Muslim person blows himself up killing a pro-zionist neo-con such as Richard Pearle for the death and destruction these people have brought upon the middle east, he would have been called a terrorist by the western media and a martyr in the islamic world and vice versa
Now explain how an act of killing innocent worshiper by strong emotions of hate does not fall under the boundries of “intimidating peaceful civil society and government” ? He killed people at two places and would have gone for more if he would have stayed alive
He was an extremist. A ‘christian extremist’ A very un-familiar term i suppose. Because no matter what, they media wont utter these terms.
Even though the media saying that both were suicide attacks
God forbid, if you replace these two white guys with asian guys then automatically these very familiar term will surface with established links with Alkayeeeda and whatnot.
This quite absured logic. Why on earth blowing up or killing in worship place is not terrorism ? but doing the same in abortion clinic is ? :rolleyes:
Re: Amercian Gunman on shooting spree ! No dammit he is a freaking terrorist !
Then Merc, you have yielded to my definition: Those in power get to choose the labels.
It is a political term, popularized by those who were really into it against the British and the Arabs in Palestine before 1948, when it was instead referred to by a much milder term, sabotage.
Re: Amercian Gunman on shooting spree ! No dammit he is a freaking terrorist !
Because their intent when blowing up an abortion clinic is to** intimidate or coerce society or government**. A very important distinction when defining “terrorism” or “terrorist”. I apparently didn’t make my defintion that must easier since you still don’t see that distinction. Terrorism today is used in America to describe those who kill innocents with the intent of changing a government’s policies. Unfortunately today the majority of those actions, on a global scale, are commited by Muslim extremists.
As the previous post suggests, those in power choose the terms. So in the US, homegrown mass murderers are not considered terrorists - just deranged mass murderers. It’s still a step above some Muslim countries where terrorists are not called terrorists or even mass murderers - but the polar opposite - martyrs. In Pakistan they wear t-shirts and hang posters of mass murderers. A poll suggests the #1 terrorist is more popular than their dictator. Maybe I’ll start a thread to whine about that.
Everyone has heard of Cho, but how many have heard of Dr. Baruch Goldstein (an American trained physician) who massacred 29 at a mosque in Hebron in 1994. He is hailed as a hero and has a shrine there.
