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How do you know??Are you one of their workers??And please don't mention Altaf terrorist's name with mine..
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i dont think he is anything different than our other leaders i guess atleast far better than chaudris :) .
but i do think MQM is lesser an organization and more a cult.
they had a good chances to capitalize in sindh and as there was gap there due to benazirs exile but they failed due to bad and inconsistant decision making.
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^ The chaudhris/bhuttos/sharifs are primarily looters and plunderers, whereas Altaf Bhai was a terrorist leader who was responsible for alot of direct deaths. MQM is a disease.
Big Tind + Choti Tind + Gujraat da chaudhry+ BB + Maulana Diesel <<<< Altaf Mota
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They all suck.. big time...
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Piyaray ba’cho,
you try very hard to disguise your hatred of mohajirs with your hatred of Yum Kue Yum. Khair, no worries, it’s all transparent.
What I find funny is that none of you talk about the decades preceding the 80s when mohajirs were getting their rights trampled upon by every other ethinic group.
O’ diaper clad defenders of justice, where were your rants of justice then? 
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Discussing the terrorist killings of the MQM doesn not make someone ‘anti Mohajir’.
As for the ‘decades’ before the 80’s, Mohjairs have always held high positions in Pakistan. starting with the very first PM.
As for the current situation, as the PM, President and many,many Generals are Mohajirs, nobody is going to talk about their ‘deprivation’
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President Zia did NOT create MQM.
Ch Shujaat and his cronies may have done more harm to Pakistan than Punjabis want to admit.
Thanks for acknowledging the 'sincereity' and patriotism of mohajirs. We needed that validation from an incoherent bigoted internet poster. Phew!
Man ALtaf is the biggest crook in the history of Pak. Who foots the bill of his life style in london. Don't come and preaching that MQM is good for Pak. Altaf has made clear his intentions regarding Pakistan since the begining. He was arrested for burning Pakistan's flag at Mazar-e-qaid. He has called several times on Indian Muslim (read Indian Govt) to interfere on Mohajir's behalf. Trust me I was there when he was giving that speech. Altaf doesn't like Pakistan but like all the other leaders of Pakistan (esp. the nationalist) they don't want to break Pakistan cuz if they do what power base will they have? They just want their way and that is the sad truth. Solution to Pakistan Politics I say ban all the nationalistic and ethnic parties and kill all thier leaders. Only national parties allow to work end of story.
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As a Pakistani (muhajir) i will tell you we will be civilized when u start to act civilized. You kill and terrorize whole population and then ask that be treated civily? Why should u not be treated the same way as you treat others. You want to be treated in a democratic way. Lay down your arms and start the protest in political arena. Tell you Altaf bhayya to be a man n come face the music in Pakistani courts. And if he is not scared of death why not come back and face the courts. Even if he gets killed at least you got another martyr to celebrate. The truth is Altaf hand are dirty with the blood of so many innocent people and that of Azim Tariq shaheed. “khoon-e-nahuq ik rang laey ga – jo chup rahey gee zuban-e-khanjar – to lahoo boley ga asteen ka”
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that bihari liaqat started this policy of divide and rule. He sowed the seeds of hatred. You ask our elders and they'll tell you all Liaqat wanted to see was Pakistan become one big Lucknow. There's not an element of doubt that mahajirs fooled the locals after arriving and looted the land, jobs, position, money. They were far educated than the locals and they made use of that to benefit and acquire positions. Liaqat's successor- Altaf tried hard to undo partition but was unsuccessful because of his weight.
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I hope u meant that sarcastically? cuz if not then GOD help u
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You smoking dope? wat the heck is wrong with u equating Altaf and Liaqut Ali Khan? Your premise is that Liaqut Ali started politics of division cuz he was bihari? and then that he wanted Pak to become one big Lukhnow? Y would a bihari want to make Pakistan Lukhnow? And Lukhnow’s tehzeeb is clearly superb (not compare to my beloved delhvi tehzeeb:snooty: lolz) get a hang man decide wat u want to say:P
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Altaf is not even comparable to Liaqat's jooti!
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If Liaqat Ali Khan had lived ten more years as a national leader of Pakistan, Pakistan Politics might had the best possible picture. He was the original leader right from the Pakistan Movement, why would he want to worsen his own dream.
Our adversity was we did not have any original leaders from Pakistan movement in five years from Pakistan's creation (except Miss Fatima Jinnah, who was oppressed since she was a woman).
ON the other hand in India, although Gandhi was killed but they had Nehru to sail the boat for quite a long time.
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although Liaquat ali khans policies at that time were biased and right he was leaned more towards migrants no doubt but this doesnt mean migrants plundered the country, i being from the province where they are in most and i still see most of them in state as any other community i must say local, still majority of them live in downtown and undeveloped areas and are on jobs mostly.
they were educated it wasnt their fault but we were uneducated that was our fault.
go to any posh area of Karachi most of the bungalows you find would be of 1) People originally from punjab, then sindhis then so called mohajirs (i dont think they aremohajirs anymore) .
i am perfectly against policies of MQM and frankly i can say with confidence if you do a fair election in Karachi they would loose more than half they have now, thanks to musharraf they are in.
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...i am perfectly against policies of MQM and frankly i can say with confidence if you do a fair election in Karachi they would loose more than half they have now, thanks to musharraf they are in.
I disagree with you on that, in the fair elections MQM will still win th elections, although the second most influential party in Karachi is JI. The reason for people electing MQM is there is no party which has given the urdu speaking people some belonging. Voting MQM does not matter to the educated Urdu speaking people, because they understand what is badmashi and what is tehzeeb, The educated Urdu speaking people praise GENERAL MUSHARAF for taming the Beast of MQM wisely.
Urdu speaking people don't trust PPP as more of the eligible people in PPP like chaudhry aitezaz ahsen are not the main leaders, same as with Jamat e Islami, Prof. Ghafoor Ahmad who is the most moderate leader is not leading the party. MQM needs to find out the leader like Azeem Ahmad Tariq (Shaheed) to win the hearts of 'Educated' people.
After all the debate , educated urdu people are more than satisfied with the General Musharaf. LONG LIVE MUSHARAF.
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Until 2002 Muharraf and his competent team were running the country very well. But thereafter due to pressure to restore democracy, he had to hold elections and had to compromoise with thieves, plunderers, wadeeras and MQM terriorists because they have been elected by uneducated masses of this country.
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Before all the support that came in after 9/11, Pak was going nowhere and the economy was doing worse under this govt than it's predecessors.
As for elections, they were blantantly rigged in favour of the most corrupt, for those who supported Mush, this is not in question.
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If you follow history of PAkistan, Pakistan's economy never got better in anybody's time, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto dared to do experiment a littlle bit (I am not in favor of him as whole) which could be in the new direction for the country, but Pakistan's economy did not raised in anybody's era.
Ayub Khan's era is regarded as Golden period of Pakistan by some historians and he was another dictator, but Musharaf cannot be blamed for the decline of economy.
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The 1955-56 was the year in which we had a positive balance of payment and had achieved 8% growth rate in GDP, 2nd in Asia after Korea. Had we been progressing with that rate, we would have been spending four times of our defence budget today but that would have been only 20% of our national budget.
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No, it was that Baacha khan wo sowed the seeds which produced ppl like u....or maybe it was that ...fraternity....whatever the case maybe, now its too late for u.....buss dua karein...dawa ka time khattam....