MQM and Altaf have many faults. But one thing I always admired in Altaf is that he has always spoken for sectarian and religious harmony. So much so that at one time he was accused of being Shia himself (to some others, he is Ahmadi).
I know how much many people hate MQM and Altaf. But I also think that we should appreciate good work of anybody.
I remember MQM sending Sunnis for security of Muharram processions and Shias for the security of 12 rabiulawwal processions.
At this time when Shia killings in the country are on the rise, no other party or group has spoken as passionately and as openly, as Altaf has spoken.
In fact, some people are actually criticizing him for speaking so clearly on this matter. This actually shows the true face of those people.
Altaf says that he speaks not just for Shias but for everyone to whom injustices are meting out. I tend to believe he is speaking with compassion and not for the sake of politics alone. In fact, if it was for politics then he would stay silent on minority issues, just like other parties.
Altaf condemns Shia killings; criticizes judicial system | DAWN.COM KARACHI: Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain on Saturday deplored the brutal killings of people belonging to Shia Muslim community, DawnNews reported.
He termed the gruesome bloodshed a wanton act of slaying the humanity itself.
Addressing a conference organised to promote harmony between different sects of Islam, the MQM chief said that enemies of the country will take advantage by creating rift between Sunnis and Shias. Assailing the judicial system, he said that acquitting murderers over lack of evidence can not be justified for having ‘free judiciary’ in the country.
Hussain said that the innocent people belonging to the Hazara community in Balochistan were being subjected to genocide, and targeted for their association with Shia school of thought.
“MQM leaders and religious scholars believing in sectarian harmony and unity among Muslims had called for stopping these acts of savagery, which could not be done. Seven more innocent people were gunned down in Quetta after their identities were verified,” he condemned.
Hussain said that every peace-loving citizen of the country besides members of the Hazara community is questioning the existence of government, and law-enforcing in stopping criminals prowling freely to target the specific community.
The MQM chief extended sympathies to the grieving families who lost their loved ones and expressed unity and solidarity with them.
I think Altaf is the only politician in the country who has the courage to say the most uncomfortable truth. That Quaide Azam was Shia.
Don’t kill Quaid-e-Azam: MQM chief Altaf Hussain’s commendable statement on Shia genocide*|*LUBPElements killing Shias conspiring against Pakistan: Altaf
tahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain says elements killing Shia Muslims, after taking them out of buses and verifying their identity, are in fact conspiring to disintegrate Pakistan.
All patriotic Pakistanis must boycott such ruthless elements, he said while speaking to Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf and Federal Interior Minister Rehman Malik on telephone, a MQM press release said on Wednesday.
Hussain said Pakistan was being encircled by threats from all sides and people belonging to Shia community were being killed. He said it was gross injustice and termed it as act of enmity against the country.
He said it was a historical reality that founder of Pakistan Quaid-i-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah belonged to Khoja Twelver Shia sect and when he died, two separate funeral prayers were offered.
One funeral prayers was offered by Allama Shabbir Ahmed Usmani, and other funeral prayer offered by a Shia cleric. No one could possibly deny these historical facts. Anyone challenging this would be lying, he stated.
The MQM chief said Shias are also Pakistanis. Even Hindus, Sikhs and Christians living in Pakistan were citizens of equal stature. Elements compelling Hindus, Sikhs or other non-Muslims to leave Pakistan were, in fact, doing injustice to Pakistan, and brushing aside teachings of Quaid-i-Azam with contempt.
He said country would be lost in darkness if patriotic Pakistanis did not come forward to put an end to this injustice. All educated, enlightened, moderate Pakistanis should boycott heartless elements killing innocent people.
The press release said agreeing to assertions of Hussain, Prime Minister Ashraf said killing of innocent people on basis of their religious beliefs, whether Shia or any other sect or religion, was height of injustice, utter bestiality. Elements killing Shias conspiring against Pakistan: Altaf | DAWN.COM
you know! you got what he wanted you to get of his message. thousands of his statement are there same for people of karachi(hamari ajazt k begair karachi main patta bhi nai hil skta). do you appreciate Altaf for his statements about karachi?
he also said in his talk yesterday that sectarianism can lead to split of country.
do you believe that Altaf believe in solidarity of country or has a soft corner for people other than muhajir?
you know! you got what he wanted you to get of his message. thousands of his statement are there same for people of karachi(hamari ajazt k begair karachi main patta bhi nai hil skta). do you appreciate Altaf for his statements about karachi?
he also said in his talk yesterday that sectarianism can lead to split of country.
do you believe that Altaf believe in solidarity of country or has a soft corner for people other than muhajir?
ajaz, I think a statement on an issue which is being avoided for some or other reason is a good gesture by MQM. The issues should be hilighted irrespective of what we think of a particular party or a politician. Many of my Shia friends have been discussing this that when CJ is taking suo motos on small matters, why targeted killing of Hazara and Shia not been given attention? Media is somewhat not giving proper coverage to this.
thousands of his statement are there same for people of karachi(hamari ajazt k begair karachi main patta bhi nai hil skta). do you appreciate Altaf for his statements about karachi?
No I don't appreciate such statements. I want to see him go as the head of MQM.
But that does not mean that he is wrong on every subject.
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do you believe that Altaf believe in solidarity of country or has a soft corner for people other than muhajir?
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I can talk at length about it but what I think about it does not matter here in this discussion.
Altaf's religious tolerance is not just about shias but about everyone, including Christians, Hindus, Ahmadis, etc. This is why MQM is a secular party.
Point is that if Altaf was doing it for votes alone then he wouldn't be talking about religious minorities. I think he is a genuinely secular person. He has raised voice anywhere any religious persecution has happened.
So even though he has many faults, but this is the side of him which is really laudable. Currently,** he is CLOSEST to the idea of the state which Quaid had in mind, **as far as religious harmony is concerned.
So even though he has many faults, but this is the side of him which is really laudable. Currently,** he is CLOSEST to the idea of the state which Quaid had in mind, **as far as religious harmony is concerned.
Your post is a joke.
You know as well as anyone Altaf is on record as calling the creation of Pakistan one of history's greates mistakes.
Yes he said this. And again we can talk about it but I don't see the relation between this statement and his secular views about religious harmony. Similarity of his and Quaid's views probably are limited to this particular topic alone.
Obviously, Altaf is no Quaide Azam. His shoddy character and violence-prone politics is 180 deg apart from the impeccable personality of the Quaid.
Yes he said this. And again we can talk about it but I don't see the relation between this statement and his secular views about religious harmony. Similarity of his and Quaid's views probably are limited to this particular topic alone.
Obviously, Altaf is no Quaide Azam. He character and political philosophy is 180 deg apart from the impeccable personality of the Quaid.
Stop trying to fool people.
Altaf is the biggest criminal mass murderer in Pakistan, you know that and so does everyone else.
No I don't appreciate such statements. I want to see him go as the head of MQM.
But that does not mean that he is wrong on every subject.
I can talk at length about it but what I think about it does not matter here in this discussion.
Altaf's religious tolerance is not just about shias but about everyone, including Christians, Hindus, Ahmadis, etc. This is why MQM is a secular party.
Point is that if Altaf was doing it for votes alone then he wouldn't be talking about religious minorities. I think he is a genuinely secular person. He has raised voice anywhere any religious persecution has happened.
So even though he has many faults, but this is the side of him which is really laudable. Currently,** he is CLOSEST to the idea of the state which Quaid had in mind, **as far as religious harmony is concerned.
my point is MQM highlights selective issues and augment for their own purpose.
consider an example from past of flood victims.
There are hundreds of flood vitcitims left without home in Punjab and KPK, but they only find it necessary to support PPP for splitting Punjab(not on managerial basis) and to oppose ANP for not allowing Hazara province. I dont consider Altaf even a secular but a bloody gangster. LJ and SS are expert in bomblast now they are trained to suicide attacks. Target killing expertise are of MQM, they might be behind this kind of training of terrorists if not actively doing that.
my point is MQM highlights selective issues and augment for their own purpose.
How does his persistent talk of religious harmony augments MQM's purpose? How many votes can MQM get by supporting minorities?
If MQM only wants to win votes alone then the best way to do it is to stop talking about Shias and other minorities.
How does his persistent talk of religious harmony augments MQM's purpose? How many votes can MQM get by supporting minorities?
If MQM only wants to win votes alone then the best way to do it is to stop talking about Shias and other minorities.
simply, how they augment thier purpose in karachi, by such nice statements....
1)Target killing should be stoped in karachi.
2) Peple of karachi should keep peace.
and there are so many funny statements including one you mentioned.
simply, how they augment thier purpose in karachi, by such nice statements....
1)Target killing should be stoped in karachi.
2) Peple of karachi should keep peace.
and there are so many funny statements including one you mentioned.
I am not going to discuss MQM's policies here. But which 'funny statement' of mine are you referring too? Are you saying that talking about religious harmony is a laughing matter?
Your reply doesn't tell at all how Altaf's talk of religious harmony by criticizing Shia killings "augments their purpose". What do you think he wants to achieve by this? Do you really think MQM can win MAJORITY'S votes by talking about MINORITIES?
Yes, MQM can win many minority votes by its unequivocal stand against religious terrorism. But these votes can not win MQM new seats because religious minorities are mostly spread out in the country. On the other hand, such stand could alienate many majority Pakistanis, a lot of them happen to have negative views about minorities and positive views about likes of Taliban.
The only way such statements could help MQM is if secular people from majority stand up alongside minorities. But there are not many such people in Pakistan today.
This is why I say that such views do not "augment MQM's purpose", if purpose is to win votes alone.
I think that the only reason he is saying this is that he genuinely believes in religious harmony and secularism.
their purpose is not to win votes. there purpose is here narrated by MQM haqeeqi leader, dont remember his name exactly right now.
Alft to his gangsters "we cant govern whole pakistan so we should strive to acheive our own country". you know! if India loose kashmir, how many parts of India will turn into other countries? same thing MQM is waiting for to happen to pakistan.
Regardless of the fact that I don't like altaf hussains politics, but this is a positive and bold stance that he has taken and should be applauded. I hope he plays a bigger role in diffusing the tensions in his power base Karachi as well.
you people dont appreciate Altaf's statements about Karachi cuz you know he is responsible for those killings.
you people do appreciate Altaf's statements about Queta cuz you think he is not responsible for those killings.
funny na?
what good a garbage is if it smells good?
you people dont appreciate Altaf's statements about Karachi cuz you know he is responsible for those killings.
you people do appreciate Altaf's statements about Queta cuz you think he is not responsible for those killings.
funny na?
what good a garbage is if it smells good?
Right. But its not only altaf who is responsible for karachi's killings. each party played direct and indirect role in such killings including the ruling parties (PPP and ANP) and parties like PML (N) and to some extent PTI (by not raising voice against the culprits).
Having said this (where hamam main sab nange hain in case of Karachi), which other party raised voice against this brutality on the name of sectarianism?
