Assalamo alaykum,
this is another question that I was asked to submit on a relatives request. Following is the response that I received from Islamtoday.com
This is the answer of the Permanent Committee for Research and Fatwâ in Saudi Arabia
There is no authentic hadîth from the Prophet (peace be upon him) that Allah had created the universe for the sake of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Allah says: “I have only created Jinns and men, that they may worship me.” [Sûrah al-Dhâriyât: 56]
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good for you, stick with it.
BTW if they are using the above ayah to prove thier fatwa then what about the other creatures other then men and jinn, who created them?
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^ huh? The ayah doesn't say, "The only things i have ever created are jinn and men..."
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In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
According to the Shi’as, Shafi’is and many other Sunnis, when Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala wished to create the creatures, he created first of all the Nur (Light) of Muhammad (SAW.). The Shi’a ahadith to this effect may be seen in Biharu '1-anwar, vol. 15. Here, I am quoting only from Sunni sources for completing the proof against the Wahhabis who erroneously believe that the Prophet was just like other human beings.
Al-Qastalani (d. 923 A.H) has narrated the Prophet’s tradition to this effect through Jabir Ibn 'Abadullah al-Ansari and 'Ali (a.s).
Al-Mas’udi (d. 346 A.H) quotes a lengthy tradition from 'Ali (a.s) which says that Allah created first of all the Light of Muhammad; then he said to that Light:
“You are My chosen one and the Trustee (amin) of My Light and Guidance. It is because of you that I am going to create the Earth and the Skies, lay down reward and punishment, and bring into being the Garden and the Fire”. The tradition goes on speaking about the Progeny of the Prophet, creation of the angels, the souls and the world. Then it speaks about the Covenant taken from the souls which combined the belief in the One God with acceptance of Muhammad’s prophethood.
That is why Ibn 'Abbas narrates that the Prophet said:** "I was prophet when Adam was between soul and body. (36) That is, when Adam’s creation was in its preliminary stages.**
Muhammad’s Light adorned the 'Arsh (Throne) of god. When eons later Adam was created that Light was put in his forehead. It continued its journey, generation after generation, through numerous prophets and their successors, until it came to the Prophet Ibrahim (a.s.); from Ibrahim (a.s.) it came to his eldest son, Prophet Isma’il (a.s).
Wathila ibn al-Asga’ said that the Holy Prophet (SAW.) said: "Verily Allah chose Isma’il from the progeny of Ibrahim; and chose Banu Kinanah from the progeny of Isma’il; and chose the Quraysh from Banu Kinanah; and chose Banu Hashim from the Quraysh; and chose me from Banu Hashim.
The Holy prophet (SAW.) said: "Gabriel said to me: 'I looked at the Earth from the east to the west, but I did not find any one superior to Muhammad; and I looked at the Earth from the east to the west , but did not find any progeny superior to the progeny of Hashim.
The Holy Prophet said: “I and 'Ali were one Light in presence of Allah fourteen thousand years before the creation of Adam. When Adam was created that Light was placed into his loin. Thus Allah was transferring it from noble loins to pure wombs until Allah settled it into the loin of 'Abdu 'I-Muttalib. Then Allah divided it into two, one part went into the loin of 'Abdullah and the other to that of Abu Talib. Therefore 'Ali is from me and I am from him, his flesh is my flesh and his blood is my blood; whoever loves him, he does so because of my love, and whoever hates him, he does so because he hates me.”
It is unanimously accepted b’ the Shi’as, the Shafi’is and the Hanafis that the ancestors of the Holy Prophet (SAW) from 'Abdullah to Qidar ibn Isma’il and from there upto Adam (a.s.) were true believers. They believed in the One and the Only God, and faithfully followed the divine religion of their times. From Qidar to 'Abdullah, all of them followed the shari’ah of Prophet Ibrahim (a.s.), which was the religion prescribed by Allah for them.
read more:
http://www.wahhabism-info.com/AkhtarRizvi/Shiism.htm
When Allah made the Divine decree to bring Creation into existence, He brought forth the Muhammadan Reality from His Lights. He then pulled away from this Reality all the worlds, upper and lower. Allah then informed Muhammad of his Prophethood, while Adam was nothing but soul and body. Then from him gushed forth the springs of the souls, making him superior to all created things, and the greater father to all things in existence. In Sahih Muslim, the Prophet (s) said that Allah wrote the Destinies of the Creation fifty thousands years before He created the Heavens and Earth, and His Throne was on the Water, and among the things that have been written in the Dhikr, which is the Mother of the Book, is that Muhammad (s) is the Seal of Prophets. Al Irbadh ibn Sariya, said that the Prophet (s) said, “According to Allah, I am the Seal of the Prophets, while Adam was still in clay.”
Maysara Al Dhabbi (r) said he asked the Prophet (s), “Oh, Messenger of Allah, when did you become a prophet?” He (s) answered, **“While Adam was still between the soul and the body.” **
It has also been narrated that when Adam (as) left Paradise, he saw written on the leg of the Throne and on every spot in Paradise, the name of Muhammad (s) beside the name of Allah. He asked, “Oh, Lord, who is Muhammad?” Allah answered, “He is your son, who, were it not for him, I wouldn’t have created you.” Then Adam said, “Oh, Lord, for the sake of this son, have mercy on this father.” Allah called out, “Oh, Adam, if you were to intercede through Muhammad (s) for the inhabitants of Heaven and Earth, We would grant you intercession.”
Omar Ibn Al Khattab (r) said that our Master Muhammad (s) said, “When Adam committed the sin, he said, ‘Oh, Allah, I ask you for the sake of Muhammad to forgive me.’ Allah said to him, ‘How did you know Muhammad when I haven’t created him yet.’ Adam answered, ‘Because, O My Lord, when You created me with Your Hand, and blew into me from Your Spirit, I looked up and saw written on the legs of the Throne, La ilaha illallah, Muhammadun Rasoolullah. I knew that You did not attach any name to Yours except that of the most beloved of Your creation.’ Allah said, ‘Oh, Adam, you have spoken the truth: he is the most beloved of My creation. And since you asked Me for his sake, you are forgiven. Were it not for Muhammad, I would not have created you. He is the seal of the prophets from your progeny.’”
read more:
http://www.mawlid.net/al_mawahib.htm
Lanat ullah alal Kazibeen wa Zalimeen
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[sarcasm]sure, why not change the faith and stick to the Darwin’s Theory?[/sarcasm]
PS. i aint addressing ya gupguppy 
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^ sorry, i was just pointing out your mistaken reading (and understanding) of the verse... didn't mean to upset you...
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JazakAllah zer01; an excellent post.
It is often seen that when a Shia is involved in a discussion with a Wahabi; Sunnies wouldn’t take part in it. Even if Shia and Sunnies have similar views about that issue. There can be three reasons.
(1) Sunnies are scared by Wahabies. They think that their arguments are weaker.
(2) Suniies don’t want to join with Shias even if the issue is Noor of The Holy Prophet(PBUH&HF)
(3) Sunnies are more closer to Wahabies; They think that these are minors issues and no need to join anybody else.
Although there are lots of Sunnies websites supporting their views but nobody dare to join the discussion from them; There are many people from Ahle Sunnah in this forum as well.
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Allah says: “I have only created Jinns and men, that they may worship me.” [Sûrah al-Dhâriyât: 56]
He created jinns and men. Prophet Mohammad and all other prophets were men too. They were like us. They were there to set examples for us because Allah used them to deliver his messages to other mankind. That doesn't mean we start worshipping the prophets too. And THIS is not a Wahabi thought. What's so bad about saying that Prophet Mohammad was a human just like us? Wasn't he a human? Didn't God make him just like he made all other mankind? I don't care if I sound like Wahabi or sunni or whatever you name it. But this also doesn't mean that our prophets weren't important to us. They were there to deliver the message of Allah and set examples.
zer01 I don't know about that Hadith or whatever you call it by Omer (r) in the last paragraph but In Quran, Surah Bakarah, it explains the incident of Adam and Hawwa. I"ll have to go from the scratch:
*"002.030 Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth." They said: "Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?" He said: "I know what ye know not."
002.031 And He taught Adam the names of all things; then He placed them before the angels, and said: "Tell me the names of these if ye are right."
002.032 They said: "Glory to Thee, of knowledge we have none, save what Thou Hast taught us: In truth it is Thou Who art perfect in knowledge and wisdom."
002.033 He said: "O Adam! Tell them their names." When he had told them their names, God said: "Did I not tell you that I know the secrets of heaven and earth, and I know what ye reveal and what ye conceal?"
002.034 And behold, We said to the angels: "Bow down to Adam" and they bowed down. Not so Iblis: he refused and was haughty: he was of those who reject Faith.
002.035 And We said: "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression."
002.036 Then did Satan make them slip from the (Garden), and get them out of the state (of felicity) in which they had been. And We said: "Get ye down, all (ye people), with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood - for a time."
002.037 Then learnt Adam from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
002.038 We said: "Get ye down all from here; and if, as is sure, there comes to you Guidance from me, whosoever follows My guidance, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. *
Why was this world created is a weird question to ask but what we know is that Allah sent humans down here because that was Adam's punishment and then all mankind had to live there and another reason was that since Iblees had been disobedient and sort of challenged God that he'd misguide his men Allah then sent down his prophets to deliever his message WHY because he wants his people to show satan that their strong faith can't let them be misguided. Universe was not created for Prophet Mohammad or Ali or anyone else.
I and 'Ali were one Light in presence of Allah fourteen thousand years before the creation of Adam
Would you mind explaining why is Hazrat Ali mentioned in there? Was he a prophet too? Was he the chosen one? Why would all other prophets be ignored in this hadith and a person is chosen who wasn't even a messanger of Allah? Do not mention Sunni or any other sects there. It doesn't really matter who believes what or what book it's coming from. When Quran states the whole scenerio and there isn't any such thing mentioned in there then would you still go for the hadith? This doesn't mean I ignore hadiths. I simply mean that I would go for Quran because those are Allah's words and not "pass on" statements which could be messed up by some extremists. When Quran states something and hadith says something else with totally different thought then we should go for quran. You keep mentioning that its a sunni belief too. Well, sunni's believe in hadiths that come from sahi bukhari and one or two other tafseers that I forgot the names of...nothing else. Don't mention sects here even if you're making sure something is believed by sunni's as well so that other's would believe it too when Allah states clearly in quran (al Imran) that don't divide among sects like other people in the past did......be your God's MUSLIM. Mind you, but it doesn't say be your God's shia muslim or sunni muslim.
Another verse from Quran just popped in my head where it states:
003.144
*Muhammad is no more than an apostle: many Were the apostle that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then Turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to God; but God (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.
*
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^
I second what Destinee states.
We are all aware that the Prophet SAW came as a mercy to all mankind and was chosen above all mankind, similar to how Mary RA was chosen above all women. However, one must not become like the Christians and start equating the Prophet SAW to a God like figure and committing shirk by associating all sorts of emotionional blind attributes to Allah Zua Jals beloved Prophet.
Allah Zua Jal created mankind so that he could be recognised and worshipped. Which the Qur'aan actually confirms.
And Allah knows best.
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[Shakir 51:53] Have they charged each other with this? Nay! they are an inordinate people.
فَتَوَلَّ عَنْهُمْ فَمَا أَنتَ بِمَلُومٍ {54}
[Shakir 51:54] Then turn your back upon them for you are not to blame;
وَذَكِّرْ فَإِنَّ الذِّكْرَى تَنفَعُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ {55}
[Shakir 51:55] And continue to remind, for surely the reminder profits the believers.
وَمَا خَلَقْتُ الْجِنَّ وَالْإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ {56}
[Shakir 51:56] And I have not created the jinn and the men except that they should serve Me.
مَا أُرِيدُ مِنْهُم مِّن رِّزْقٍ وَمَا أُرِيدُ أَن يُطْعِمُونِ {57}
[Shakir 51:57] I do not desire from them any sustenance and I do not desire that they should feed Me.
Even a 5 year old can tell you that theres is no ayah from above wich mentions about the creation of the world. (for the sake of Mohammed). Read the thread titel and Fatwa again and tell me why using the ayah to back thier false claim?
Read what you wrote above. Has it anything to do with the threads title or Fatwa?
I dont care if you don’t know about the Hadith nor it is my duty to feed you with the knowledge of Sahih books. I gave you the reference (the link, yeah its a sunni site). Check it again. But since the link also dosen’t back the wahabi belief. I dont believe you are gonna agree with it.
Let me copy n paste commentry of these ayaha you posted above:
وَعَلَّمَ آدَمَ الأَسْمَاء كُلَّهَا ثُمَّ عَرَضَهُمْ عَلَى الْمَلاَئِكَةِ فَقَالَ أَنبِئُونِي بِأَسْمَاء هَـؤُلاء إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ {31}
[Shakir 2:31] And He taught Adam all the names, then presented them to the angels; then He said: Tell me the names of those if you are right.
[Commentary 2:31]
NAMES
Angels are obedient beings. There is no “becoming” (change) in the angelic sphere. Each of them has a fixed status to carry out a particular function. Man, on the other hand, made of matter, endowed with vast potentialities and scope for progress and development, is more fit to reflect or to react to the various aspects of the higher will. The potentiality of matter reveals itself in many forms, but it is only through the organism of man that its highly refined potentiality develops into intellect, reason and contemplation, the essential requirements for wisdom and knowledge. According to verse 75 of Sad, Allah has created Adam with His two hands, matter and spirit, which gives man the distinctive power of expression, termed as biyan by the Quran. This expressive power is related to His vicegerency, because the vicegerent, as the representative of the principal, gives expression to His will and command. The higher the ability of recepiency and the reflective power, the greater will be the scope and canvas of representation. It is on this basis that all the messengers and prophets of Allah will be standing under the standard of the Holy Prophet, which will be in the hand of Ali, on the day of resurrection.
The names Adam learned from Allah were not in the knowledge of the angels, because these names did not refer to the phenomena known to them. The hum of aradahum does not refer to the “names” but to the “named”, and as a plural term cannot be used for Allah, therefore, it cancels the possibility of interpreting these names as the names of Allah. When reference is made in Arabic to several objects of inanimate nature, a singular feminine pronoun is used, but when the objects are conscious beings, a plural masculine pronoun is used, as done here through aradahum, to point out the “named ones”. If the object referred to is inanimate, the singular feminine pronoun, tilka or hadhihi should have been used. Here the personal demonstrative pronoun refers to the conscious beings of a superior-most status, knowledge of whose names entitled Adam to the vicegerency of Allah. Thus the existence of the beings of the highest status has been established. Due to the affinity between Adam and these highest beings (alin), he was capable to function as the medium of their manifestation. Verse 4 of al Tin says that the status of man, in the order of creation, is the highest in excellence. The alin, the highest beings, referred to in this verse, are the most perfect and the most blessed human beings, for whose manifestation in the arc of ascent, Adam was chosen. Till then the names of the highest beings along with the insight and vision of their realities, their latent qualities and inherent endowments were unknown to the angels. (see commentary for verse 4)(see commentary for verse 2)
قَالُواْ سُبْحَانَكَ لاَ عِلْمَ لَنَا إِلاَّ مَا عَلَّمْتَنَا إِنَّكَ أَنتَ الْعَلِيمُ الْحَكِيمُ {32}
[Shakir 2:32] They said: Glory be to Thee! we have no knowledge but that which Thou hast taught us; surely Thou art the Knowing, the Wise.
[Commentary 2:32] (see commentary for verse 31)(see commentary for verse 4)(see commentary for verse 2)
قَالَ يَا آدَمُ أَنبِئْهُم بِأَسْمَآئِهِمْ فَلَمَّا أَنبَأَهُمْ بِأَسْمَآئِهِمْ قَالَ أَلَمْ أَقُل لَّكُمْ إِنِّي أَعْلَمُ غَيْبَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ وَأَعْلَمُ مَا تُبْدُونَ وَمَا كُنتُمْ تَكْتُمُونَ {33}
[Shakir 2:33] He said: O Adam! inform them of their names. Then when he had informed them of their names, He said: Did I not say to you that I surely know what is ghaib in the heavens and the earth and (that) I know what you manifest and what you hide?
[Commentary 2:33]
Through Adam the angels became acquainted with the glory of the glorious beings. When Adam, at the command of Allah, stated the names, qualities and symbols of those highest beings whose collective and comprehensive status can be termed as wisdom personified, the angels witnessed the glory of the infinite power and wisdom of the Lord that could create such perfect beings of the highest calibre, in substance as well as in style, like of whom they did not know till then.
**In Durr Manthur, Jalaluddin Sayuti says that the Holy Prophet had said: "The objects shown to the angels were five lights. Allah informed the angels pointing to each of the lights respectively: **
**(i) This is Muhammad, the most praised, derived from My name, the praised one. **
**(ii) This is Ali, the high, derived from My name, the highest. **
**(iii) This is Fatimah, the original, derived from my name, the originator of the heavens and the earth. **
(iv) This is Hasan, the bountiful, derived from My name, the benefactor.
(v) This is Husayn, the good, derived from My name, the good in origin.
**O angels! It is in love of these five that I have created the universe." **
**It becomes a logical conclusion that since Allah willed these five lights of glory to be manifested through Adam, he had been appointed as the khalifa of Allah, and through these lights Allah’s light had been destined to be manifested. **
As Allah is aware of all the “unseen” in the universe, He knew that the angels secretly thought themselves more deserving than Adam to be chosen as Allah’s khalifa. After seeing the glory of the five lights, endowed in the seed of Adam, they accepted their ignorance and submitted to Allah’s decision.
وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلاَئِكَةِ اسْجُدُواْ لآدَمَ فَسَجَدُواْ إِلاَّ إِبْلِيسَ أَبَى وَاسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ {34}[Shakir 2:34] And when We said to the angels: Make obeisance to Adam they did obeisance, but Iblis (did it not). He refused and he was proud, and he was one of the unbelievers.
[Commentary 2:34]
Satisfied with the proof of the absolute wisdom and mercy of Allah, the angels prostrated themselves before Adam, as ordered by Allah, and acknowledged the superiority of the khalifa of Allah. Iblis, jinn, as described by verse 50 of al Kahf, overcome with grief and despair, under the burden of arrogance (kabar), refused to come into the camp of knowledge and mercy surrounded by iman. According to this verse, prostration (sajdah) by one created being, in order to pay homage and accept superiority of another created being, is permissible. The sajdah of total submission and unconditional surrender is for the creator only.
There is another sura I would like to mention here fro you to ponder:
Verse 23, Sura 42**"Say O Muhammad to mankind: ‘No reward do I ask of you for this except the love of those near of kin.’ "**According to Traditions, when the holy Prophet was asked as to who were the relatives alluded to in the verse, the holy Prophet said, **“Verily, the reference is to Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Hussain.” **
Read my first post agin and ask Jalaluddin Sayuti if you can 
If you still dont believe, then no problem, enjoy your stay on the earth.
a: Ask the histirions, who wrote those traditions before the exitence of Wahabism.
b: No he is not a prophet, as he said himself "I am one of the slaves of Mohammad (saww)
c: And yes he is the chosen one. As Allah syas in his book:
Verse 4, Sura 66**“Now if both of you turn to Allah repentant, it will be better for you as your hearts are already so inclined. But if you backup each other against him, surely Allah is his helper, and Gabriel and the righteous among the believers, and furthermore, all other angels too are his helpers.”**According to Ibn Abbas, the holy Prophet said that the **“righteous men” alluded to as “helper” in this verse, refers to Hadrat Ali. **
**Verse 43, Sura 13 ****“And those who disbelieve say ‘you are not a Messenger’ say to them, 'sufficient is Allah as the witness between me and you, and so is he who possesses knowledge of the Book.”**According to commentators, the phrase “whosoever has the knowledge of the Book” alludes to Hadrat Ali.
source: http://muslim-canada.org/hadratali.htm#ch78 (a sunni site)
Yes he is chosen one. Rasulallah said" Tomorow I will gave this flag to a person who love Allah and His Rasul, And Allah and his Rasul lov him. ) quoted in a lot of books
read above
sure as long as you believe that the entire Qur’an is literal and that it is aloof of Mujaz (figurative Expressions). Its your faith, I aint got any problem with it.
:yawn: I am tired dude. some other time.
Re: Allah (SWT) did not create this world for Prophet Muhammad (SAW)
zer01, keep your wahabi rhetoric to yourself. Just because not everyone agrees with what you say does not make them Wahabi or an extremist.
I re-read your material and quickly skimmed through the URLs that you provided us with. The URLs that you provided us are by Shias and Sufis and not the mainstream Sunnis (followers of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamah) who try their best to strictly adhere to Quran and authentic Sunnah.
Also, you shouldn't be making huge claims about what the 'majority' of Sunni Muslims believe in. All you're doing is streotyping here and claiming that those who do not agree with your views happen to be Wahabis.
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i believe mohammed :saw: 's] noor was created 1st by allah subhana even before the lohe-e-mahfooz and universe was created.
allah has special love for mohammed :saw: ] and i have read somewhere that allah has said that if it wasn’t for my beloved mohammed :saw:] their wouldn’t be this earth and us beings etc. {do correct me if i’m wrong}
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That's true, quran isn't literal and that's why people take weird meanings out of it. It's not that hard to understand. Read it WITHOUT keeping all those shia beliefs in your brain and that's when you'll understand it well enough because that's what I did. Baki, I don't want to discuss this stuff with those who're more worried about sects and their beliefs rather than believing in one muslim umma and working towards it.
Nevermind.
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It’s a fabricated hadith as the hadith masters al Dhahabi and ibn Abdul Hadi said, and Hafiz Ibn Hajar called it a futile narration; al Bayhaqi declared it weak… all of this because the report relies on the narrator Abdul Rahman ibn Zayd ibn Aslam of whom al Bukhari said that his hadith aren’t authentic, Ibn Hibban said he should be abandoned as a reporter, and others, such as Abu Nu’aym, said he reports fabricated hadith.
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Thank you!
If you don’t mind, can you please share the source if you still remember it?
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^ briefly...
al Dhahabi's comment is in his footnotes to al Hakim's book al Mustadrak ala Sahihayn and also in his work on narrator criticism, Mizan al I'tidal, when discussing the reporter Abdullah ibn al Fihri;
ibn Abdul Hadi's comment is in his book Sarim al Munki (a refutation of al Subki) - i have the paperback edition somewhere if you need the exact page number;
ibn Hajar's ruling is in his Lisan al Mizan (another work on narrator criticism);
i have the comments by al Bukhari and Ibn Hibban on Zayd ibn Aslam under his biography in the three volume compilation, Al Jami fi Jarh wa Ta'dil.
If you need page, volume numbers I can look them up… however, the hadith has been discussed many times on the Net so a Google search is sure to bring up some detailed information...
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A typically blinkered presentation… the books of commentary given numerous other reports on what this means, including that it refers to Umar ibn Al Khattab specifically, to Abu Bakr and Umar together (also reported from Ibn Abbas!), that all the Prophets are meant, or all the Companions of the Prophet (saw) in general…
And is this all the commentators have said? Of course not… views that it refers to others such as Abdullah bin Salam, Salman al Farsi, Tamim al Dari and more are also given along with reports from early authorities to that effect…
… maybe someone else has the time to follow up the rest
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gupguppy, jazakallah. It’s good enough for now. I’ll let you know if I need details.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir is by far the most famous, and the most trustworthy tafsir of Quran amongst Sunni Muslims.
Following is the tafsir for some of the verses that were quoted by zer01.
Verse 4, Sura 66**“Now if both of you turn to Allah repentant, it will be better for you as your hearts are already so inclined. But if you backup each other against him, surely Allah is his helper, and Gabriel and the righteous among the believers, and furthermore, all other angels too are his helpers.”
** He then mentioned the story as we mentioned above. Umar continued, "I said, O Messenger of Allah, what trouble do you feel from your wives If you have divorced them, verily Allah is with you, His angels, Jibril, Mikal, I, Abu Bakr and the rest of believers are with you.’ Often, when I talked, all praise is due to Allah, I hoped that Allah would testify to the words that I uttered. And so the Ayat of option was revealed. Allah said, [font=Traditional Arabic]عَسَى رَبُّهُ إِن طَلَّقَكُنَّ أَن يُبْدِلَهُ أَزْوَجاً خَيْراً مِّنكُنَّ]
(Maybe his Lord, if he divorces you, will give him in your place wives better than you,) and,
[font=Traditional Arabic]وَإِن تَظَاهَرَا عَلَيْهِ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ مَوْلَـهُ وَجِبْرِيلُ وَصَـلِحُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمَلَـئِكَةُ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ ظَهِيرٌ]
(but if you help one another against him, then verily, Allah is his Protector, and Jibril, and the righteous among the believers; and after that the angels are his helpers.) I said, Messenger of Allah, have you divorced them' He said, No.’ I stood at the door of the Masjid and called out at the top of my voice, `The Messenger of Allah has not divorced his wives.’ It was on this occasion that this Ayah was revealed,
[font=Traditional Arabic]وَإِذَا جَآءَهُمْ أَمْرٌ مِّنَ الاٌّمْنِ أَوِ الْخَوْفِ أَذَاعُواْ بِهِ وَلَوْ رَدُّوهُ إِلَى الرَّسُولِ وَإِلَى أُوْلِى الاٌّمْرِ مِنْهُمْ لَعَلِمَهُ الَّذِينَ يَسْتَنْبِطُونَهُ مِنْهُمْ]
(When any matter pertaining to peace or alarm comes to them, they broadcast it; whereas, if they would refer it to the Messenger and those who have been entrusted with authority among them, those of them who are engaged in obtaining intelligence would indeed know (what to do with) it.)(4:83) It was I who understood (and properly investigated) this matter.‘’ Similar was said by Said bin Jubayr, Ikrimah, Muqatil bin Hayyan, Ad-Dahhak and others. The Ayah,
[font=Traditional Arabic]وَصَـلِحُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ]
(and the righteous among the believers;) refers to **Abu Bakr and `Umar. Al-Hasan Al-Basri added `Uthman to them. Layth bin Abi Sulaym said from Mujahid:
[font=Traditional Arabic]وَصَـلِحُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ]
(and the righteous among the believers;) includes `Ali bin Abi Talib also. **
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=66&tid=54321
**Verse 43, Sura 13 ****“And those who disbelieve say ‘you are not a Messenger’ say to them, 'sufficient is Allah as the witness between me and you, and so is he who possesses knowledge of the Book.”
** Allah says, the disbelievers reject you and say,
[font=Traditional Arabic]لَسْتَ مُرْسَلاً]
(You are not a Messenger.) from Allah,
[font=Traditional Arabic]قُلْ كَفَى بِاللَّهِ شَهِيداً بَيْنِي وَبَيْنَكُمْ]
(Say: "Sufficient as a witness between me and you is Allah…‘’) meaning, say, `Allah is sufficient for me and He is the witness over me and you. He is witness that I (Muhammad) have conveyed the Message from Him and over you, O rejecters, to the falsehood that you invent.’ Allah said,
[font=Traditional Arabic]وَمَنْ عِندَهُ عِلْمُ الْكِتَـبِ]
(and those too who have knowledge of the Scripture.) This refers to Abdullah bin Salam, according to Mujahid. However, this opinion is not plausible, since this Ayah was revealed in Makkah and Abdullah bin Salam embraced Islam soon after the Prophet emigrated to Al-Madinah. **A more suitable explanation is that narrated by Al-Awfi from Ibn Abbas that this Ayah refers to Jews and Christians. Qatadah said that among them are, `Abdullah bin Salam, Salman (Al-Farisi) and Tamim Ad-Dari. The correct view is that this Ayah,
[font=Traditional Arabic]وَمَنْ عِندَهُ]
(and those too who have. ..), refers to the scholars of the People of the Scriptures who find the description of Muhammad in their Books and the good news of his advent that were conveyed to them by their Prophets.** Allah said in other Ayat,
[font=Traditional Arabic]وَرَحْمَتِى وَسِعَتْ كُلَّ شَىْءٍ فَسَأَكْتُبُهَا لِلَّذِينَ يَتَّقُونَ وَيُؤْتُونَ الزَّكَـوةَ وَالَّذِينَ هُم بِـَايَـتِنَا يُؤْمِنُونَالَّذِينَ يَتَّبِعُونَ الرَّسُولَ النَّبِىَّ الأُمِّىَّ الَّذِى يَجِدُونَهُ مَكْتُوبًا عِندَهُمْ فِى التَّوْرَاةِ وَالإِنجِيلِ]
(And My mercy embraces all things. That (mercy) I shall ordain for those who have Taqwa, and give Zakah; and those who believe in Our Ayat; Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write whom they find written with them in the Tawrah and the Injil.) [7:156-157] and,
[font=Traditional Arabic]أَوَلَمْيَكُن لَّهُمْ ءَايَةً أَن يَعْلَمَهُ عُلَمَاءُ بَنِى إِسْرَءِيلَ]
(It is not a sign to them that the learned scholars of the Children of Israel knew it (as true))[26:197] There are similar Ayat that affirm that the scholars of the Children of Israel know this fact from their divinely revealed Books.
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=13&tid=26123
**Verse 23, Sura 42**[indent]**"Say O Muhammad to mankind: 'No reward do I ask of you for this except the love of those near of kin.' "
** [font=Traditional Arabic]قُل لاَّ أَسْـَلُكُمْ عَلَيْهِ أَجْراً إِلاَّ الْمَوَدَّةَ فِى الْقُرْبَى]
(Say: "No reward do I ask of you for this except to be kind to me for my kinship with you.‘’) means, say, O Muhammad, to these idolators among the disbeliever of Quraysh: I do not ask you for anything in return for this message and sincere advice which I bring to you. All I ask of you is that you withhold your evil from me and let me convey the Messages of my Lord. If you will not help me, then do not disturb me, for the sake of the ties of kinship that exist between you and I.' Al-Bukhari recorded that Ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, was asked about the Ayah:
[font=Traditional Arabic]إِلاَّ الْمَوَدَّةَ فِى الْقُرْبَى]
(except to be kind to me for my kinship with you.) Said bin Jubayr said, **"To be kind to the family of Muhammad.'' Ibn Abbas said, "No, you have jumped to a hasty conclusion. There was no clan among Quraysh to whom the Prophet did not have some ties of kinship.‘’ Ibn `Abbas said, "Except that you uphold the ties of kinship that exist between me and you.‘’ This was recorded by Al-Bukhari. It was also recorded by Imam Ahmad with a different chain of narration.**
[http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=42&tid=47147](http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=42&tid=47147)
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Re: Allah (SWT) did not create this world for Prophet Muhammad (SAW)
not have enough time to answer all bull posted above, but just posting an ayah for you all to ponder:
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**قَالَ يَا إِبْلِيسُ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَن تَسْجُدَ لِمَا خَلَقْتُ بِيَدَيَّ أَسْتَكْبَرْتَ أَمْ كُنتَ مِنَ الْعَالِينَ **
YUSUFALI: (Allah) said: “O Iblis! What prevents thee from prostrating thyself to one whom I have created with my hands? Art thou haughty? Or art thou one of the high (and mighty) ones?”
PICKTHAL: **He said: O Iblis! What hindereth thee from falling prostrate before that which I have created with both My hands? Art thou too proud or art thou of the high exalted? **
SHAKIR: **He said: O Iblis! what prevented you that you should do obeisance to him whom I created with My two hands? Are you proud or are you of the exalted ones? **
Who were the Ale-ien (exalted ones) mentioned in above ayah?
hint: read the commentry again which I posted above 
Thanks and Jazak Allah khair brother. There is nothing wrong you posted. May Allah bless you for that and may he also give our other sunni brethrean Taufiq and courage to participate in this thread and defend the status of our beloved Rasul (saww) 