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the word is "murtadd" and the punishment is death, although you do get 3 days to repent.
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the word is "murtadd" and the punishment is death, although you do get 3 days to repent.
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Is that why you want a secular Pakistan? So that you can go around freely calling yourself a "former Muslim"?
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That’s why I live in Amrika! ![]()
What do you call people who use your religion and kill people with that? Are they not “offending your religion” as you so aptly put it? Why are those idiots given a free pass in Pakistan and called shaheed? Why do your people call Azam Tariq a shahid?
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I want a secular Pakistan because that’s what Jinnah wanted. But why do you care? Don’t you want to see Pakistan destroyed in the thread you started about Pakistan’s desintegration that was removed?
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Why do you want a secular Pakistan? What is your ideal Pakistan?
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I asked you before. Why do you care? You want to see Pakistan destroyed and desintegrated. It doesn’t matter what I want. I live in America. But the decision of how Pakistan’s government should be made by its people who are educated (not the madrassah type education), through a democratic process.
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What if democracy brings an Islamic party like the MMA in Balochistan or NWFP?
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If its a free and fair election, then yes, and all people 18 and over should vote. That includes women.
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Pakistanis are Muslims. You have no respect for their religion. They will have no respect for you. Your secularist atheistic dream of a Pakistani nation state has no takers in Pakistan. Pakistanis consider themselves to be Muslims first and then Pakistanis. This is why Pakistan has been unable to recognise Israel until now.
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I love Pakistan but Islam comes before everything, if I love Pakistan it’s because of Islam, had my people not embraced Islam and remained Hindu or not given Islam any importance I would have been just as comfortable in India..
Religion comes before nation, always.
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Just goes to show how much of a Sunni Muslim you really once were…
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We have to accept that Afghanistan is still a dangerous place. General Dostum, Mullah Qanooni and their ilk are thursty of Pushtoon blood. We have Qarazai as a figure head, but he has no appeal, no charisma, and no plans for improving Afghanistan.
Refugees know that death and destruction awaits them in their villages, their homes, and their fields. Land mines, toy mines, and leftover unexploded ammo is taking untold lives, limbs, and precious Pushtoon blood.
Just pushing these helpless refugees is simply cruel and inhumane. Even though their lives in Pak camps are no picnic, the situation is much worse back in Afghanistan. The worst situation in any man’s life is loss of hope and most of these refugees have lost hope in Afghanistan.
Afghan government doesn’t want their people, they are incapable of handling even the ones in who are already in Afghanistan.
What should Pakistan do in this situation? Tough choices await both Pak government and Pak people. The first choice is to simply avoid the problem and do nothing. The second choice is to mercilessly push them across the border. Pak government seems to be going back and forth between these two choices.
It is time to look for third option. This option needs bold and courageous decision form Pak nation. **I suggest using the 70,000 Pak soldiers now posted in Wazirastan in a more effective way. That means sending these troops to South and South East Afghanistan with support from Americans and Afghan army. **Adding this large number of troops will accomplish many things including: creating safe havens for Pushtoons now refugees, and taking the war to the Talibobs’s backyard. This will also help Pakistan bring peace to Wazirastan.
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The people who call azam tariq a shaheed at the same time call shias kafir i am not with them.But sipah sahaba pakistan is a banned outfit and the government band other sectarian organisations as well so shia or sunni no one is right at caling someone as kafir.These organisations were given a free hand unfortunately by the state and shias supported by iran and wahabi organisations like SSP by saudi government but an ordinary muslim doesnot support any of these organisations.
Bad people are everywhere not every jew is a zionist not every christain is from IRA and not every hindu from RSS shiv sena.But if you will say anything offensive to our prophet you should be punished in the most severe manner no compromise on that one
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Pashtuns/Afghans are on their own historical land i.e. Pakhtunkhwa-Baluchistan and they can stay as long as they can. Punjabis should shut about this matter.
Also Pakistan is an artificial entity I will never exchange for my real and actual identity i.e. Pashtun that hundreds of generations build for me.
In the end there is going to be a Pashtunistan whether you like it or not. The world has to deal with the menace of weapons of mass destruction, Islamic terror, and the irrational state and its irrational ideology.
There is nothing in pakistan that binds people together except its oversized Punjab-based army.
And forget that Punjos will be able to bomb Pashtuns with the help of America, isreal. In the end Kahuta and Mansoora, the actual bases of weapons and ideiology of terror, will be bomobed. Our leadership is in laison with the peace-loving world.
Long live Zalmay Khalilzad, Karzai, Mahmmod Achakzai, Asfandiyar Wali. and Afrasiab Khattak.
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Zalmay is USA’s right hand man, and Karazai is a Pakistani production, being bought and used by USA with warranty coverage offered by Pakistan. Same Karazai is bombing the $hit out of wayward Pushtoons.
You ought to do better than this “list of stooges”. Heck what more could we expect from a dinosaur.
Your blabbering are typical of Kabuli Kommies, who helped bomb and rocket Kabul, Kandahar, and Jalalabad back to stone age. Now the same Kabuli Kommies like dyno, myno, and mo want to bomb and rocket Kohat, Bannu, and Peshawar. Down with the Kabuli Kommies and their MAToo honchos.
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Zalmay is a nationalist Pashtun and so is Karzai, the puppet of USA is Musharaf who is so far working for the Afghan interest, GOD BLESS HIS SOUL! Musharaf is the Paki leader that can make all Pashtun and Afghan dreams come true and he will best serve our interest in the end. He is to forget about Kashmir, prepare Pakistan (Punjabistan) to be reunited with India and erase the disease called ISI and it's jihadi rats from the region.
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It is utterly disgusting for Pakis to bark about how they have kept so many Afghanis on their soil, yet they forget that Pakistan has helped tremendously in keeping them out of their country to begin with. Pakistan supported the jihadies against Afghanistan government with Russians ties, then Pakistan supported Ahmed Shah Masood, Dostum, Rabooni, later it changed bed buddies to Hekmatyaar because the pathanis in the Paki army ranks were upset, afterwards they gave birth to the Talibaabs.
If anything pakis should be brought to justice in the international court for crimes against humanity just to keep it’s artificial existence on the world map.
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Your an idiot…
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Long live Pashtun Nationalist.
Nevertheless, we should work towards UCSR (Union of Central-South Asian Republics), a confederation or federation between Sindh, Baluchistan, Pashtunistan, Dardistan (including Northern Areas, Hazara, and Potohar), Kashmir, and probably Tajakistan. Muhajirs of Karachi would provide inudustrial leadership to this union....Persian and Urdu will be lingua franca of this union.
With passage of time, this union will get out of the Hindustani Civilizational mold and adopt a unique civilization with Central Asian, Persian, and Middle Eastern cultural influences. South Asian cultural elements would also fom a part of this unique civilzation. (I have a lot of respect for Hindustani Civilzation but if South Asian/Hindustani Muslims want to be identified differently, then UCSR is the only way)
Punjabis would be asked to join their bearded cousins accross Wahga.
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You know, there is a reason why all the dinosaurs died out... They simply couldnt cope with the realities of their environment... :)