Re: Ali_Syed feedback
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Right, this is going to be a detailed reply and I really hope it wonât be misunderstood as me taking you on, Yazdi bhai. I only posted what 3 lines in Shamrazâs thread, not attacking him in any way, and still Iâm being told Iâve somehow disrespected him. So in case this lamba sa reply gets mistaken as something else, just a disclaimer that Iâm only writing this because your opinion matters to me and it seems like Iâve majorly upset ye so this requires a proper response out of respect for you. I donât think youâd be able to point out a single incident in all these years where Iâve been disrespectful to either of you or ever held your views against you so I feel saddened with the whole new team vs us thing going on. I always held ye in high regard and I wasnât aware of this apparent divide between us. You need not remind us of your years of extraordinary services for us to continue to respect you. As far as Iâm concerned, youâre not only an asset to GS but to the country as well.
Now I understand thereâs some major heated debate going on in Society that has resulted in tensions between the liberals and the religious-minded but why is the team being held responsible for that? If thereâs an influx of âinternet mullahsâ on GS, why should that be a problem as long as theyâre debating within the boundaries of the forum? If thereâs anyone I expect to be tolerant of opposing views, theyâd be the liberals and yet youâre telling me that theyâre disappearing because theyâre put off by the conservative views? Contrary to your observations, 3 years ago when I was new to the forum, there were hardly any atheists, secularists, liberals around (of Pakistani origin) but today there are plenty or theyâve become more outspoken than ever like Ali said. In fact, just going by the poll results of the PA thread, there are more secularists and moderates around than the so-called mullahs.
Now if the mullahs start complaining that there are too many liberals roaming around, Iâd say more power to the liberals. Why are we being expected to filter one group out because the other group doesnât like them? Extremists obviously have never been allowed to use GS as a medium to spread hatred so no this forum will never turn into a jihadi terrorist forum. But other members, conservatives, liberals and moderates, have every right to express their views even if they donât see eye to eye. Unfortunately, not all of them manage to keep their cool at all times as youâd know quite well and the foul language/personal attacks is what the mod was editing, it had nothing to do with the postersâ views. Like Shak said, so much of right wing clutter is being removed daily and the right-wingers could easily turn around and play the victim card. I canât do much about that, Iâm sorry. Those who trusted me with this role must have had faith in my integrity that if I did see something wrong happening, I wouldnât cover it up.
âLet the people from diverse views make their point of view and let the readers decide who is making sense.â Again referring to the same PA thread as an example, everyone freely posted their opinions, did they not? Was there a single secularist liberal poster who was silenced just because a mod didnât like his views on the topic being discussed? Have your views ever been censored? I actually had to PM some of the conservatives asking them to tone down their views, I havenât done that with a single secularist poster. The person PMed me back saying we give liberals way too much leeway and here youâre saying itâs the other way around. Ab mein kis ki sunun?
As for me posting something disgusting about protecting some mentality⌠yeh kub hua? If youâre referring to extremist, intolerant, hateful mentality, how is that religious mentality? The people Iâm backing up are the conservatives, not the extremists. There I am saying that we will continue to enforce the policy that everyone should be respected regardless of their views, that if a team member was being hateful towards others, heâd be let go and not protected, that we have not discriminated on the basis of religion, race, nationality etc when hiring team members, that weâd never hold anyoneâs views against them and still I was being disgusting? Really? Mein karun tau kya karun, ap please mujhe batayen. The religious lot are getting offended because the atheists are making fun of their beards and the atheists are also feeling super victimized by the religious lot, or beech mein hum phis rahe hain. We arenât perfect, weâre struggling to strike a balance and weâd like to count on you guys to bear with us, to be patient with us and to guide us as youâre more experienced, more mature.
Finally, whether the team is old or new does not have anything to do with the orientation of the forum because the forum and the entire team is always overseen by the same people whoâve been looking after it since the 90âs. Iâm new but Iâm not a dictator who gets to do as she wishes and destroy the years of hard work put into the forum. If you donât trust me, at least have faith in the admins to keep the forum steered in the right direction. Again, I really hope this post hasnât enraged you in any way as this wasnât my intention at all. I just wanted to address all the points you raised in detail as Iâm positive that good will come out of such discussions.
Honestly, ye are the last people I want to see unhappy. We would be the ones at loss if you were disappointed with us.
You have completely misinterpreted something I said, no way on earth would I say itâs okay for Muslims to insult others because itâs a Muslim dominated forum. Hell no. You shouldnât even be worried about this because weâre absolutely on the same page with regards to this. Someone who I consider to be a right-wing extremist here has already collected 40+ infraction points within a matter of 10 days. What does that tell you? We have zero tolerance policy towards hate-mongers be they leftists or rightists or whatever. But if the mods do miss a post that you feel is inappropriate, please do report it and weâll take prompt action.
