Alcohol

[Cool_Breeze]

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Mad-Scientist:

atleast you got the mazaa without any gunnah
hum tu mahroom hi rahey

[Mallika]

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@Mamaof3

I grew up a desi in the US and my exposure to alcohol was always that its a thing for grown ups. The grown ups would have one or two in a social setting, have a nice time and go home.

WHen I went to Pakistan, it was very different. There were so many countless positive experiences there that I'd like to live there. But one thing - the alcohol at the parties. The men are forbidden alcohol and when they go to a party and its there, well they just drink till they either pass out or puke their guts out.

If you;re asking whether people can drink in moderation, the answer is yes, my mom and dad did this often. THey;d have a cocktail after a long day or a glass of wine with dinner. There was never ever anything "base" or shameful about it.

I do realize that Islaam condemns alcohol completely; I do not proffess to be a Muslim, at least not yet. And I see the bad side of it as well as the social and not-harmful side.

I like how you put it.:)

[Mr_Fraudia]

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@mAd_ScIeNtIsT

I don’t drink, but I got drunk once during ramadan as a result of a lab accident. I was performing an experiment on a chemical dissolved in 99.7% pure alcohol. I thought I could take a shortcut and make the experiment go faster by boiling off excess alcohol, but I didn’t have enough ventilation and ended up breathing a whole load in

I was confused about why I felt so weird and kind of nauseous when going to and having iftaar and praying maghrib that day, until later on when I realised I was drunk!

yeah, it reminds me of when police find a whole shipment of pot, and then they destroy ( i.e. burn) it ina field while the stand around it in a circle

[Mr_Fraudia]

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@Cool Breeze

^^

sounds convincing
so is it ok to try then - is it a “go ahead” signal - should I

no signal, just an observation

[Terrible_Guy]

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@mara

Have you ever had a key lime pie martini? It is like a dessert in a glass.

I drink in moderation. Nothing to be ashamed of (but then I do live in the evil empire of the United States grrrrr). I’m actually quite proud of myself- I’m very responsible and know my limits. That’s not to say I haven’t had my share of “drunken moments” (particularly when I first started to drink)- but nothing I can’t laugh about now. You live and you learn, I guess (and then, hopefully, you laugh).

No I have never had that drink you mentioned or any alcohol for that matter, .

I don’t drink at all. I never drank, I don’t drink and :insha: I never will. Nothing to be ashamed of (Even though I live in the west, and went to university, where they openly encouraged its consumption). I’m quite proud of myself and I know my limits. That means I’ve never had any drunken moments, as I have never consumed alcohol, . May Allah keep it that way forever…ameen.

[Dr.LuLworth]

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@Man with a Plan

Toba toba…this place is going crazy. First secularism, than it is ok to go to clubs, now drinking.

you should REEEEELY worry about yourself.

[Mr_Fraudia]

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@Terrible Guy

No I have never had that drink you mentioned or any alcohol for that matter,

of course you have had alcohol, everyone has. you may not know u had alcohol and u may not know that there were trace amounts fo alcohol in something, but u had alcohol

[UZ]

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ALLAH jhoot na bulwaye i drink every day synthetic alcohol in coke u know:D

[Light_Bearer]

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I drink but have kept a limit on myself. I like beers but prefer single malts and bourbons. I don't think I am doing anything wrong. The problem is not with the alcohol; the problem is when people forget when to stop.

I have few simple rules which I follow;
Do not drink and drive period.
Never drink alone, thats when you get stuck with it.
Always drink with a good company so you might learn something in the discussions.
Never ever drink just because it's available. Or rather I know when to stop.
Don't drink if you are on medication. You never know how it might react with the medication.
And unless it's an occasion I never drink in routine.

I believe it's a decent high without hurting anybody in the process.

[Lajawab]

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@Light Bearer

I drink but have kept a limit on myself. I like beers but prefer single malts and bourbons. I don’t think I am doing anything wrong. The problem is not with the alcohol; the problem is when people forget when to stop.

I have few simple rules which I follow;
Do not drink and drive period.
Never drink alone, thats when you get stuck with it.
Always drink with a good company so you might learn something in the discussions.
Never ever drink just because it’s available. Or rather I know when to stop.
Don’t drink if you are on medication. You never know how it might react with the medication.
And unless it’s an occasion I never drink in routine.

I believe it’s a decent high without hurting anybody in the process.

Another simple rule you might wanna add: No Muslim drinks and no drinker is a Muslim…

Ask me and I’ll explain why…

[Light_Bearer]

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@Lajawab

Another simple rule you might wanna add: No Muslim drinks and no drinker is a Muslim...

Ask me and I'll explain why...

Yeah sure you can add it to your rules. As for asking for explaination; not really required. I am happy the way I am.

On the other hand should I add more rules not to your list but my list.
Anybody who ever lied is not a muslim.
Anybody who ever ogled a woman is not a muslim.
Anybody who ever commited adultery is not a muslim.
Anybody who ever took or gave bribe is not a muslim.

See Lajoo making these lists and fatwas is so easy.

[Lajawab]

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@Light Bearer

Yeah sure you can add it to your rules. As for asking for explaination; not really required. I am happy the way I am.

On the other hand should I add more rules not to your list but my list.
Anybody who ever lied is not a muslim.
Anybody who ever ogled a woman is not a muslim.
Anybody who ever commited adultery is not a muslim.
Anybody who ever took or gave bribe is not a muslim.

See Lajoo making these lists and fatwas is so easy.

Yes, these should be avoided at all costs…However, drinking and adultery fall under the specific category of those things specifically forbidden as the highest category of sin…Why?

Because a Muslim is someone who submits…The word Mussulman means someone who submits to Allah :swt:…And since a Mussulman is specifically told not to touch drinking and gambling, what does that make a Mussulman who drinks and gambles? It makes him a rebel to the command of God, and what do we call a rebel against God? A Kafir…

This is not my interpretation BTW, it’s basic Islam…\

So ask for forgiveness so that maybe you might be forgiven…

[Mr_Fraudia]

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I think only when someone does shirk do they stop being muslims, otherwise they arestill muslims but lower and lower on the taqwa scale

[Lajawab]

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@Fraudz

I think only when someone does shirk do they stop being muslims, otherwise they arestill muslims but lower and lower on the taqwa scale

Shirk is also rebellion to to God…But forgivable…Drinking willingly is rebellion to God, but forgivable…

But drinking despite knowing its strict prohibition, is simply rebelling against the commands of Allah :swt:…Same as shirk…But both forgivable if asked with a genuine heart never to do it again…

[Light_Bearer]

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OK I will think about it but for the time being I still think I am all right.

[LuxuryItem]

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Is there anyone here who doesn't drink, fornicate or gamble? Am I the only good person left here. Tauba astagfaaaaaaaaaaaaar.

[Mr_Fraudia]

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@LuxuryItem

Is there anyone here who doesn’t drink, fornicate or gamble? Am I the only good person left here. Tauba astagfaaaaaaaaaaaaar.

at the same time? or separately?
if it is the former count me in brother, there are two of us pure souls here.

[UZ]

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@Fraudz

at the same time? or separately?
if it is the former count me in brother, there are two of us pure souls here.

i am the purest muslim also:snooty:
how come u drink coke or diet coke too?right

[CrescentWarrior]

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@LuxuryItem

Is there anyone here who doesn't drink, fornicate or gamble? Am I the only good person left here. Tauba astagfaaaaaaaaaaaaar.

I have never done those things Alhamdulilah! And Insha'ALLAH never will... :)

[Mr_Fraudia]

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^ baychara virgin hi maray ga matlab :(