Al-Wahab

[lethal_kamikaze]

Re: Al-Wahab

@vroom

I have used name calling here, the same names wahabi, najdi, [edited].

And the issue is all about beliefs

I hope for reward from Allah Subhanahu for standing up against these people. From the Quranic verses you quoted the question arises as to my conduct with semi wahabis. This is a problematic area since they are not proper wahabis but offer support to wahabis, other then that there is not much one can say about proper wahabis that is forbidden to be said, according to me

Like for example you! You often take up najdi positions but I have never called you a najdi or wahabi yet. Especially some of the posts that you have ‘liked’ sometimes they are kufri, and not just kufri but qattar kufri. So I do not go out of my way to label people wahabi however it is ok to do so if one is confident that the person belongs to ‘them’

Basically I am good with using wahabi, as a basic name. Not even all wahabis find it offensive, I have had people tell me that they are ‘pakkay wahabi’ meaning ‘pakkay of that group belonging to ibn abdul wahab’. The name has been accepted by their scholars as well

Like I said if you want to refute the use of the name then you must refute previous examples given to you on page 1. That’s the only principled refutation that would make sense to me.

Peace vroom,

I think either my english is very poor that I’m unable to convey what I’m trying to say here or you don’t wish to look outside the circle. Look, it is written in very simple english (translation of verse) that:

1- O you who have believed
2- People may not ridicule another people, perhaps they may be better than them
3- Women may not ridicule another women, perhaps they may be better than them
4- Do not insult one another
5- Do not call each other by offensive nicknames
6- One who have faith must not disobey and shall repent (if disobeyed) otherwise he’s the wrongdoers.

What you said earlier, where that fit in above (accordingly)? In other words “what you said earlier isn’t kind of disobeying Almighty Allah’s order?”. Please think about that. Again I’m trying to bring you as well as others attention towards a name of Almighty Allah but it seems to me like that you just want to talk about that particular group.

There are few hadiths where it is narrated that one who said or believed in “Almighty Allah”, “last Prophet” and “Day of Judgement” etc., shall not be called (labeled) as kafir (unbeliever) neither be killed". His/her matter is with Almighty Allah. Unfortunately, I’m unable to locate those hadiths and if found then surely I’ll share it here.