Al Qaeda declares war on Christians

The Al-Qaeda Nazis have also joined the foray into lambasting the Pope and Christians world wide. They have pledged to kill all Christians in the World, conquer Europe, etc…

If Muslims don’t stand up to these people, they will continue to represent us and our continual statement that Islam is a Religion of Peace will be turned into a Joke.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060918/wl_nm/pope_islam_dc_22

Vatican tries to calm Pope row as militants vow war

By Stephen Brown and Philip Pullella Mon Sep 18, 7:32 AM ET

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Al Qaeda militants in
Iraq vowed war on “worshippers of the cross” and protesters burned a papal effigy on Monday over
Pope Benedict’s comments on Islam, while Western churchmen and statesmen tried to calm passions.

The statement by an umbrella group led by Iraq’s branch of al Qaeda came after the Pontiff said on Sunday he was deeply sorry Muslims had been offended by his use of a medieval quotation on Islam and holy war.

“We tell the worshipper of the cross (the Pope) that you and the West will be defeated, as is the case in Iraq,
Afghanistan,
Chechnya,” said a Web statement by the Mujahideen Shura Council.

“We shall break the cross and spill the wine … God will (help) Muslims to conquer Rome … (May) God enable us to slit their throats, and make their money and descendants the bounty of the mujahideen,” said the statement, posted on Sunday on an Internet site often used by al Qaeda and other militant groups.

In Iraq’s southern city of Basra, up to 150 demonstrators chanted slogans and burned a white effigy of the Pope.

“No to aggression!,” “We gagged the Pope!,” they chanted in front of the governor’s office in the Shi’ite city. The protesters also burned German, U.S., and Israeli flags.

A speech by Pope Benedict last Tuesday was seen as portraying Islam as a religion tainted by violence, causing dismay among Muslim states where some religious leaders called it the start of a new Christian crusade against Islam.

The
Vatican has instructed its envoys in Muslim countries to explain Pope Benedict’s words on Islam.

Benedict’s new Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, said the Holy See’s nuncios (ambassadors) in Muslim countries would be visiting government and religious leaders.

French
President Jacques Chirac refused on Monday to criticize the 79-year-old Pontiff, but called for a more diplomatic use of language.

“It is not my role or my intention to comment on the Pope’s statements. I simply want to say, on a general level … that we must avoid anything that excites tensions between peoples or between religions,” Chirac said on Europe 1 radio.

“We must avoid making any link between Islam, which is a great, respected and respectable religion, and radical Islamism, which is a totally different activity and one of a political nature,” Chirac added.

ARCHBISHOP DEFENDS POPE

The head of the world’s Anglican church, Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, defended Benedict.

“The Pope has already issued an apology and I think his views on this need to be judged against his entire record, where he has spoken very positively about dialogue,” said Williams, the spiritual leader of 77 million Anglicans worldwide.

Williams told the BBC that all faiths could be distorted, and the Pope was simply giving an example of that.

“There are elements in Islam that can be used to justify violence, just as there are in Christianity and Judaism.”

In
Iran, a government spokesman said on Monday Pope Benedict’s regret was a “good gesture” but not enough.

The Pope had referred to criticism of the Prophet Mohammad by 14th century Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus, who said everything the Prophet brought was evil “such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

Questions had been raised on whether a papal visit to Turkey in November could go ahead, but the government, while calling his remarks “ugly,” said there were no plans to call it off.

The Pope, head of the world’s 1.1 billion Roman Catholics, said the quotation did not represent his personal views, but failed to satisfy some Islamic groups seeking a full apology.

In Somalia, an Italian nun was killed on Sunday in an attack one Islamist source said could be linked to the dispute. A Vatican spokesman hoped the killing was “an isolated event.”

A senior Chinese Muslim expressed anger over the Pope’s comments, Xinhua news agency said on Monday. This was in contrast to Chinese reticence over last year’s publication of cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in a Danish paper that sparked violent Muslim protests elsewhere in the world.

“In his speech, Benedict insulted both Islam and the Prophet Mohammad. This has gravely hurt the feelings of the Muslims across the world, including those from China,” Xinhua quoted Chen Guangyuan, president of the Islamic Association of China, as saying.

China insists its Catholics belong to a state-backed church that does not recognize the Pope’s authority. Muslims are also under state control.

About 100 Indonesian Muslims protested peacefully over the Pope’s remarks outside the Vatican embassy in Jakarta on Monday.

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Isn't that what it has always been about? Convert to Islam or we will kill you?

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Common Al Qaeda go for it. I wonder, these people who have been hiding and doing all the talks, when will they challenge the world openly.
My only argument is if someone is there with the truth, they dont have to hide, they will attack openly and dont hide like chickens.
I find this in Al Qaeda if they are with the truth then they methodology is wrong, otherwise they are state sponsored terrorists by USA.

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Well thats how the Arabs tried to spread Islam....

Arabs dont represent Islam in its full context. They have infused their tribal BS into Islam to create a hybrid version of Arab Islam which negates the teaching of the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH)

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Just like you are "with us or against us".

If you are against us we will bombard the hell out of you kill innocent women and children and call it collateral damage and while we will remember our 3000 killed every year the 30,000 we killed will be conveniently forgotten. Works both ways, doesn't it.

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all i can say is they sure have damaaged our face in western countries although we are peaceful ppl we still face racism which iis beginning to increase as a result of their stupidity...its not a war against christians they are also taking it out on Muslims n i for sure am not gunna back those Alqaeda idiots

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they have their own letterheads too? :omg:

ok.. the url of the website please.. or the IP address? I’d like to trace it to who’s running it and from where .. and if I can do it.. so can agencies with billions of dollars in budgets.. right?

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so you think al qaeda and osama are jews?

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http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/opinion/story/0,22049,20427424-5001031,00.html

Peace - how, if critics must die?

By Luke McIlveen

September 18, 2006 12:00
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Pope Benedict XVI’s comments about Islam have made him a target of extremists, writes LUKE McILVEEN

THE hardline Muslims who took to burning churches this weekend in the wake of Pope Benedict’s remarks supposedly linking Islam to violence seem to have proved his point.

In keeping with the ludicrous over-reaction to a Danish newspaper’s decision last year to publish cartoons featuring the prophet Mohammed, churches around the world have been firebombed and death threats issued.

This time, the leader of the world’s one billion Catholics is at the centre of the furore. A week ago tomorrow, Pope Benedict addressed Regensburg University in Germany on the links between Islam and holy war.

He insists he was trying to illustrate a widely-accepted point – that sections of the Islamic community use violence to spread their faith.

“Show me what Mohammed brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,” he said, quoting 14th century Byzantine emperor Manuel Palaeologos II.

The Pope’s sin appears to be he left the quote hanging and his failure to place it in context sent Muslims around the world into a fury.

It may have caused offence, but as with the Danish cartoon episode, the backlash was disproportionate.

A hardline Somalian cleric called on Muslims to “hunt down” and kill the Pope, while five churches were firebombed in the Palestinian territories.

A bomb exploded in a church in Iraq and 2000 Palestinians hit the streets in protest.

The Pope’s army of security personnel are taking the threats seriously and security has been tightened around the papal summer residence at Castel Gandolfo, south of Rome.

Morocco’s King Mohammed VI immediately recalled his ambassador from the Vatican on the basis of “offensive remarks about Islam and Muslims made by Pope Benedict XVI at Regensburg university on September 12.”

Clearly shocked by the hysterical reaction to his week-old comments, Pope Benedict issued a fulsome apology for his failure to clarify but it had little impact.

“The Holy Father sincerely regrets that certain passages of his address could have sounded offensive to the sensitivities of the Muslim faithful,” Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone said in a statement.

“In reiterating his respect and esteem for those who profess Islam, he hopes they will be helped to understand the correct meaning of his words . . . surmounting this uneasy moment.”

It certainly looked like a sincere apology, but hardline Muslims were not prepared to accept it.

“This is not an apology. The Vatican secretary seems content to confirm the Pope is sorry because his remarks were misinterpreted. But they were not misinterpreted,” said Abdel Moneim Abul Futuh, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood group.

Australia has not yet reached the point where churches are firebombed because somebody has the audacity to express a view.

But the furious reaction to Prime Minister John Howard’s recent remarks that Muslims should embrace Australian values proved the slightest criticism can cause grave offence.

Predictably, Australia’s Muslim leaders were quick to condemn the Pope. Sheik Taj el-Dene Elhilaly – whose creative utterances include blaming the US for September 11 – said the comments were immoral.

“The Pope’s statement did not come across as the way of Jesus. I question the morals and objectives of such a statement,” he said.

This from the man who described the September 11 attackers as doing “God’s work against oppressors”.

The violent response to the Pontiff’s use of an emperor’s 600-year-old words shows just how fragile the world has become in the five years since Muslim extremists brought down the World Trade Centre.

“It does underscore that lots of instances can be taken to exacerbate what is a tinderbox situation and we have to look to our own backyard,” Parliamentary Secretary for Immigration Andrew Robb said yesterday.

Pope Benedict is relatively new to the job and critics are already comparing him unfavourably to his predecessor John Paul II.

“No one has the right to use religion as an instrument of intolerance, as a means of aggression, violence and death,” John Paul II declared in November 2004.

But while Pope Benedict wants “interfaith dialogue,” he has made it clear he will campaign against “syncretism” or mixing of faiths.

The freedom to practice religion is a fundamental tenet of democracy.

But when hardcore militants respond to every slight against their religion with Molotov cocktails and death threats, it does little to promote Islam as a peace-loving faith.

Young Australian Muslims flooded internet chat rooms over the weekend to discuss the Pope’s remarks.

One contributor to the Sydney website Muslim Village posed the question: “Why is Islam disrespected?”

“Islam gets disrespected because so many of followers don’t respect it. As Muslims, we should respect Islam first before we expect others to do the same,” replied another.

Re: Al Qaeda declares war on Christians

The better link to the title of thread would be:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060918/ap_on_re_mi_ea/muslims_pope

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Yes, its the same as "either you are with us or against us". I dont mean to pick on you OG, but lately the garabage spilled out by Glenn Beck on CNN makes you wonder...I am begining to think that this war is really against Islam.

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I have never sen Glenn Beck. I do however watch the news for items from the Islamic world.

Before 9/11, Glenn Beck and Rush and Pat Roberston could not spell Islam, much less tell you anything about it. Islam was completely under the radar in the US. We did not know enough about Islam to hate Islam, much less wage a war on it.

What we have a history of doing is confronting totalitarian ideologies. Germany, Imperial Japan, Communism, and now Radical Islam. As with the Cold War, this confrontation could last 50 years or more.

Most people in the US do not know how to parse out the "Good Muslims" from the "Bad Muslims". Frankly even Muslims have yet to figure this out. But we both know it when we see it, start with beheadings and suicide bombings and work from there. Are we confronting this evil correctly? Who knows, time will tell.

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yes. why don't people get it.
Its very much obvious that either Al Qaeda doesn't exist and If it does then its supported by US. How come US and alliances can't catch anyone??. can't they simply trace ....

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:confused:

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No, its always been about get out of Muslim lands… Stop supporting dictatatorships on the one hand and claiming to be the champions of freedom on the other… Even Osama made it clear that his aim was not americas right to wear thongs and drink alcahol.. Dont delude yourself with tired old cliches…
Unfortunatley, due to the stupidity of those involved, this situation has gotten from bad to worse.

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The sad fact is that the American govt has botched up the world so badly, that even the so called moderate Muslims dont know who is good or bad anymore…
I mean, this war on Iraq and the subsequent crap thats gone on there has only made more people angry, and more people wanting to attack the Americans. Bush thinks the best defense is hudling behind walls of steel and turning america into his personal keep. while the entire time, the enemy gathers outside…
Islaimc Radicalism isnt a state, its a mindset, a belief.. You cant fight it by attacking people…

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Yeah some pimple faced teenagers from Philippines can get arrested by FBI a couple of days after releasing computer virus, but they can’t figure out who is running those ‘Islamists’ website for years. Give me a ****ing break.
BTW what the hell is Islamist? Don’t they already have a word for that in dictionary.

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Maybe the fact that pimple faced kid is from the Philippines and not Iraq or Afghanistan or any other country USA doesnt have an extradition treaty with....

Analyze the topic entirley before making comments on it which only show how little you actually know about the world and how it works

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pimple faced kid and his virus was not helping President Bush in any way like Al-qyda videos.

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I thought the puppet government of Iraq was US ally on this so called war against terrorism. So you are saying US doesn’t have extradition treaty with their ally?
BTW stay on the topic instead of getting personal.