Re: Al-Azhar says women pregnant by rape must abort baby
psyh. I agree with PCG to some extant. We do l,ike every other society, have that issue. Its not only against women its also happens to girls and boys.
Kid who suffer through it immidiatly develop feeling of guilt so he/she is very un-likely to report the incident. I have been thinking about this issue for a long time. I think we have to be little shameless in-front of our children, and address that issue. Telling them there is a possibility some may touch the inappropriately. So God forbid if that ever happen they could see it as a crime rather then developing a dirty/guilty feeling about it. I would say we in Pakistan need to address this issue more then west.
Only exception I could make is Its better if schools teach that to kids rather then mother or father talking about it.
Excellent points.
Psyah: You raise very good points as well. Touche on the point about the window. You're right, its not really a 40 day window as far as how the pill works, which makes it even more important for us to educate people to have a stock in their home or accessible immediately to them to take.
I understand that clinics are not available everywhere, especially in the muslim world.
But if we keep focusing on the solution of : Keep the child; we tend to ignore the other things we could be doing. Like building those clinics where its needed. I fail to see why, when the muslim community has the resources and manpower it has, that why in African muslim villages, it is bible thumpers putting up clinics rather than muslim outreach groups? Why? Because we really dont have many of them; those that we have are either poorly organized, or corrupt.
Building clinics, community education on topics of sexual violence and misbehavior (of all kinds, not just rape), community health education, community opening up to rape victims, community building resources for the victims, more efficient justice systems that punish rape victims severely, etc is all very important. We need to move away from this intense focus on whether or not we abort the baby. Its not the argument that's a problem. Its our OBSESSION with it. It distracts attention from other solutions that we could very well be pursuing.
And your point about the pill not working 10% of the time should really be sending up flags in peoples' minds. That means this pill solution works 90% of the time. This means that roughly, taking into consideration that not every woman is going to be in a smart mind to take the pill right away, you're looking at a 50-60% reduction in unwanted pregancies. 50-60% reduction in emotional turmoil, families being broken, unwanted babies being killed from shame or being dumped on some pervert's doorstep to exploit the child. That is a MASSIVE improvement.
Yes, your 10% of cases will still remain where we think - what to do with that child.
But that would mean, ideally, if our solutions are working right (i.e. we muslims are working right), then 10% of our time should be spent discussing this issue.
This thread - eh, I'd say, most of it was taken up with the abortion - to do, or not to do? argument.
Again, I ask you. What is this a sign of? I think it means we're not doing a good job in this area.
We're spending more time arguing over controversial questions than we are spending time finding a solution.
We're all such full of hot air. What are we doing for these girls?