Aisha (R)

Did she ever have any kids?

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no

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The End.

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nevertheless she is a "mother" to all the believers :-)

"The Prophet is closer to the believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers" (Qur'an 33:6)

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Figuratively speaking of course.

Its very interesting - his only virgin wife, and no children. Nor did he divorce her or leave her either. That should be a lesson for Pakistanis.

I remember having a discussion here some time ago - maybe over a year ago - regarding fertility. Many were of the opinion that an infertile woman should not be married since in Islam, if you can procreate, its pretty much a must that you should procreate. Some men went so far as to say that they would divorce if their wife was infertile and would be okay with it if they were divorced by their wife if they were in fact infertile.

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Before you jump to conclusions, did the Prophet (pbuh) have children with any of his wives besides Khadija (ra) and Maria (ra) ???

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Hm no. But its ironic that the kids he did have who survived were from a widow who was in her 40's....whereas the virgin didn't have any. So why is it that mullahs always say go for the fertile virgin?

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Which mullah's say that ?

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The choice is the man's if the man wishes to have kids then he'd be better off with a fertile wife (as long as he's fertile himself) otherwise the marriage may have issues.

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actually its not the mullahs, but a saheeh hadith tells us that it was Prophet Muhammad (saw) who advised men to marry virgins…

dig out hadith books and u shall find it somewhere for sure…
and then instead of blaming the mullahs, keep ur questions for the Prophet (saw)…

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However is it not true that if a man so desires there's nothing wrong with marrying a non fertile female ?

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^
no, the suggestion was perhaps just a precautionary measure that due to the natural desire in men to have children, the man might develop some sort of an unliking for the infertile woman, who he has already married, carried away by temporary emotions, and hence might fail to do justice to the rights his wife has upon him....

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The only reason men are recommended to marry younger women is because they're more likely to be fertile. However, what bout men who are infertile? (I know age doesn't matter when it comes to men's fertility). And why should the infertile woman be punished for something she could not control?

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WHY would they be recommended to marry young and fertile women, when the Prophet didn't for the most part??

And frankly, who in the world goes for a rishtaa and confirms before marriage whether the girl is fertile or not? Would it be Islamic to take the girl to a doctor and get a fertility report before marriage?

The issue is that once you marry a girl, its only THEN that you find out she might be infertile. The Prophet did not divorce Aisha (R) on that basis, and neither does any man have the right to get a divorce done on that basis, especially if the wife does not want a divorce (and that's what happens in most cases anyway with Pakistanis).

What I'm saying is that its very ironic and interesting that God gave the PRophet so many wives, among whom the only really fertile one who gave successful surviving offspring was a widow of 40. The virgin wife did not give offspring, most likely due to her own infertility.

This hadith is never presented along with "Well, Bibi Ayesha was also infertile, but the Prophet had a very happy marriage with her..."

Aren't we supposed to emulate the Prophet, no exceptions? Then where does this hadith come from??

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Marrying a young virgin is NO guarantee of having a fertile wife. In today's world, we all know about menopause. So I don't see any reason that a 20 year old virgin should be a higher target during the rishtaa process than a 30 or 40 year old virgin or widow.

By the way, can someone tell me who narrarated this hadith? Don't tell me it was that typically anti-female Abu Hurraira.

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:razi: :razi:

What do you know about him:razi:?
stop disrespecting the great companions of the Prophet:saw:

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Post the hadith. There is just as much historical evidence that says Abu Hurraira was anti-female as there is that says he was a noble companion of the Prophet.

Right he spent 2 years with the Prophet - noble companion indeed.

Look at his actions, not just the fact that he spent his life with the Prophet. The only EXAMPLE you should be following is the Prophet, right? And the hadith clearly contradicts the Prophet's life, and nowhere does it say in the Quran to marry only fertile women.

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1- Shia Historians

2- He spent atleast 10 years in Madinah with Prophet:saw:, unlike the Muhajirin he did not work in trade and unlike the Ansar he did not have a land to look after. This enabled Abu Huraira:razi: to stay with the noble Prophet:saw: at Madinah and to go with him on journeys and expeditions.

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So all Shia are wrong?

I doubt it - their story is more believable. His hadith's are so unbelievably anti-female that it goes against the very spirit of the Quran. Plus he was living in some castle or waghera with the support of Muwaiya who was no saint, because of all the violence and lack of cooperation he gave to the most close sahabah of the Prophet - and I'm not just talking about Ali here. That guy gave problems to other caliphs, and not to mention to Aisha (R).

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Haha! And I'm not even Shia!