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Mukti Bahini has also been accused of killing and raping Bihari citizens of East Pakistan. Have you ever condemned what was done by mukhti bahni? I can assume you support rapes done by Mukti Bahini.
The discussion was about JI and its involvement. I don't know where do you assume such things that a person who condemn rapes by Pakistan army / JI, will support acts by Mukti Bahini.
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The discussion was about JI and its involvement. I don't know where do you assume such things that a person who condemn rapes by Pakistan army / JI, will support acts by Mukti Bahini.
It is by your logic. Just because you havnt heard JI condemning rapes you believe JI support that. Similarly i havnt seen you condemning Mukti Bahini atrocities I can say you support them.
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Seems discussion movign to another direction. It wud be nice for us to read the Hamood rehman report and discuss our opinion . This may alredy beend discussed maybe...
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It is by your logic. Just because you havnt heard JI condemning rapes you believe JI support that. Similarly i havnt seen you condemning Mukti Bahini atrocities I can say you support them.
lols, I'm not political leader of JI or Razakar of Albadr o Shams. So, my condemnation or support does not carry any weight. You talk about party you support and which supported atrocities against Bengalis.
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lols, I'm not political leader of JI or Razakar of Albadr o Shams. So, my condemnation or support does not carry any weight. You talk about party you support and which supported atrocities against Bengalis.
Sawal gandum jawab chana.
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Sawal gandum jawab chana.
Serves your deviation better.
Now tell us what JI Pakistan has to say about the atrocities committed by Alshams o Badar to Bengalis during 1971 operation? (I know the typical answer that they were saving Pakistan for break-up... but still like to listen to your version and argument for such stance).
Who gave them mandate to involve in such operations? How can JI be absolved from the war crimes? (Now don't say that just becuase Mukti Bahini did same, JI also got the right to do so).
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I read the report in a glance. It seems all blame put on Army....
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I read the report in a glance. It seems all blame put on Army....
nothing about al badar or al shams?
or may be these groups acted on behalf of army, so ultimate responsibility falls on army shoulder and hence hamood commission talked abt army only
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I read the report in a glance. It seems all blame put on Army....
but there shd be full section on mukti bhanie and their crimes.
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Serves your deviation better.
Now tell us what JI Pakistan has to say about the atrocities committed by Alshams o Badar to Bengalis during 1971 operation? (I know the typical answer that they were saving Pakistan for break-up... but still like to listen to your version and argument for such stance).
Who gave them mandate to involve in such operations? How can JI be absolved from the war crimes? (Now don't say that just because Mukti Bahini did same, JI also got the right to do so).
Nothing new form you always flipping.
First you said JI raped bengali people then you say JI support rapes of bengali people. Now reduced to something else. If you haven't lied in your first post I might think about replying you on this.
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Nothing new form you always flipping. First you said JI raped bengali people then you say JI support rapes of bengali people. Now reduced to something else. If you haven't lied in your first post I might think about replying you on this.
lols. As if no reply from your side, would change the facts.
I haven't change my views. I still believe that Al Badr and Alshams are as culprit and part of atrocities (including rapes) as Mukti Bahini.
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lols. As if no reply from your side, would change the facts.
I haven't change my views. I still believe that Al Badr and Alshams are as culprit and part of atrocities (including rapes) as Mukti Bahini.
this is called dhitaee.
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but there shd be full section on mukti bhanie and their crimes.
YEs but their main task was to find the culprits from our side. From the out look he found
I dont know what happend with Mr. Hammod after writing this type of report. Is he also missing...
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Following is also worth reading.
In his report, Hamoodur Rahman founded and criticized Bhutto for his role in the 1971 crisis, to some extent implicating him as well of having manipulating General Yahya Khan to take military action. Chief Justice Rahman noted that the General Yahya Khan failed to not come to political settlement laying the foundation of two separate states which was known during general's time as "Tum Wahan Hum Yaha" (Urdu: 'تم وهاں هم يهاں; English: We're here, you're there.). Though the responsibility of the debacle lay on the shoulders of the people in power then as was recommended in the report by Chief Justice Rahman. When the report was submitted the then **Prime Minister Bhutto, the prime minister wrote to the Chairman War Inquiry Commission Chief Justice Hamoodur Rahman, that the commission has exceeded its limits. The Commission was appointed to look into the military "aspect of debacle", not the aspect of political failure.* Bhutto classified the publications of the Commission and marked its report as "Top Secret". Soon, the report was stolen from Prime minister Secretariat by the members of Naval Intelligence.*
Re: Aik aur latka diya Hasina nay....
Haramkhor like zardari ko haramkhori krnay do.
Inkay baray main bata dain kay yeh kon kon hia.
Nawaz Sharif
Imran Khan
Siraj Ul Haq
Fazl ur Rehman
Altaf Hussain
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this is called dhitaee.
better than supporting rapists.
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Bhutto himself said "Haan mein peeta hoon!" No label for any qaum. Just asking what was the role of people of sindh and ppp leaders during dhaka fall. How can anybody say JI raped bengalis, without proof? If everybody here has the right to say anything without proof and you just ignore it because to you it is popular belief that JI raped people then it is also popular belief that zardari is absolutely corrupt and I just used urdu word for corruption. I will use badd-dyanat next time if you think haramkhor is not the right word. For you information, NAB is using words like harmakhori and badd-dyanti in its advertising campaigns against corruption.
I am not in favor of anyone and I am not against anyone. we are just trying to create a civil environment for discussion. you did label and use the word "qaum" provocatively, it did hurt some posters and it was reported as well. Anyway, no need of any further discussion. and oh yes, bad-dayant sounds so much better than haram-khor! that is all we are requesting for....
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No label for any qaum. Just asking what was the role of people of sindh and ppp leaders during dhaka fall.
Bhutto was darling not only to Sindhis but also Punajbis at that time. What did Punjabis do during dhaka fall (To be specific General Niazi and his qaum)?
At least, there is a history of Sindhi struggle against One-Unit alongwith Bengalis, which was a plan for economic disparity of Bengalis.
Apart from Bhutto episode in 1970-1971, Sindhis has no role to exploit Bengalis. They themselves were far away from corridors of power till then. So if you go by qaum, then from 1947 to 1970, its not Sindhi but other qaums are answerable for the exploitation of Bengalis.
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Bhutto was darling not only to Sindhis but also Punajbis at that time. What did Punjabis do during dhaka fall (To be specific General Niazi and his qaum)?
At least, there is a history of Sindhi struggle against One-Unit alongwith Bengalis, which was a plan for economic disparity of Bengalis.
Apart from Bhutto episode in 1970-1971, Sindhis has no role to exploit Bengalis. They themselves were far away from corridors of power till then. So if you go by qaum, then from 1947 to 1970, its not Sindhi but other qaums are answerable for the exploitation of Bengalis.
If it is Sindhi leader then blame is on the leader as individual. if its Punjabi leader then blame is on whole Punjab. Its my feeling that Sindh should have joined Dhaka. It would have been better than getting lectures from them every other day.
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^^ Do you actually want a landlocked punjab ? :D