Ahmedinejad's letter

This guy surprises everyone. Suddenly he decided to correspond with his biggest enemy of the day Mr Bush by letter. He apparently had it handed over to the Swiss Embassy in Tehran, which deals with US concerns in Iran.
Ahmedinijad wanted to ease tensions…
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\05\09\story_9-5-2006_pg1_1

But stiff and hell bent on finding ways to make war as Bush is, he most predictably refuses to take it all serious;
http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/060509115507.6kj34xnz.html

Wonder what’s in the makiing…

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Ahmedineja's letter is a typical tribal bull doled out by Middle Easterners in the name of history, civilization, and shairo-Shairee (poetry).

Herein starts the major difference between North European matter-of-fact approach to life vs. the African style bickering.

For guppies, a glimpse of this supposed dialogue is something like this:

North European asks: So would you stop playing with nukies?
African tribal replies: I would rather play sitar and sing Umar Khiyyam's rubayiats.

North European is disgusted so he asks again: I give a crap to rubiyats, just tell me if you are stopping your mindless play with nukie toys.

African tribal replies: Sit, listen to duf-duf music, drink Gahwa or Shai (tea), and let's talk about Dastan-e Amir Hamza (Stories part of Alf Lailah).

North European gives final warning, the African (Middle Easterners are 75% Africans), refuses to listen,

and the end result is "Kaboom".

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From what I gather the Letter was an arrogant little rant by president Nutjob.

Stalling for time.

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The letter is a wonderful ploy though.

The net reality is that regardless of the content, history now records that Ahmednejad made the first attempt at high-level contact during not just the current crisis, but since 1979.

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^^ Oh please. A 14 page rant is not a diplomatic approach to solving a problem.

Even a little dog can bark.

Can you identify the Rat Terrier?

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^
George W Bush looks like a sad little puppy in that picture.

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Not much different than what some guppies here write. Brings up some valid points criticizing the U.S. while ignoring the problems in the Muslim world, attacks Israel, says democracy has failed the world, and loaded with ‘god is the way’ speak.

A letter which comes from the president of a regime that banned thousands from running in elections telling us how Democracy has failed the world, how novel.

Text of letter:
http://medias.lemonde.fr/mmpub/edt/doc/20060509/769629_lettre.pdf

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^^ WTF?

I had not read the full text of this. This is just a bizarre correspondence between two heads of State. Just strange.

There is something quite odd about this letter, something quite unbalanced. Like he wrote it at his table while at breakfast, thinking that a good stern lecture to Bush would have him soon seeing things his way, perhaps bowing to Mecca soon too. It is as if he thinks that Bush is his student, and he is speaking as if he is the grand Muslim teacher. Very odd, very dangerous. Wait til some commentators start ripping this thing apart..... Condi will do the diplomatic thing and brush this off, but this will be a cause of great worry in the West.

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The letter is a rant, and Nutjob is picking at straws. Bush did exactly what should have been done: filed it in the trash bin.

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Historically, this has some precursors. Apparently Khoneini did the same thing, sending Gorbachov a letter declaring Communism dead, and inviting him to study Islam. The Nutjob apple is not falling far from the tree:

**Study Islam, Khomeini Suggests to Gorbachev **

http://view.atdmt.com/ORG/view/nwyrkfxs0040000007org/direct;at.orgfxs00000890/01/

REUTERS
Published: January 5, 1989
LEAD: Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini told Mikhail S. Gorbachev, the Soviet leader, in a letter delivered today that Communism was dead and that he should study Islam.
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini told Mikhail S. Gorbachev, the Soviet leader, in a letter delivered today that Communism was dead and that he should study Islam.
The Teheran radio said the letter, Ayatollah Khomeini’s first major message to a foreign leader, had been handed to Mr. Gorbachev by the Iranian leader’s personal envoy, Ayatollah Abdullah Javadi Amoli, who later left Moscow for home.
The radio quoted Ayatollah Khomeini’s son and chief aide, Ahmad, as saying the message praised Mr. Gorbachev’s boldness in changing the Soviet system.
‘‘It is clear to everyone that Communism should henceforth be sought in world museums of political history,’’ Ahmad Khomeini quoted the message as saying. ‘‘Materialism cannot save humanity from the crisis of disbelief in spirituality, which is the basic affliction of human societies in the West and the East.’’
The son added, ‘‘Then the honorable Imam asked Mr. Gorbachev to seriously study and research Islam.’’
About 50 million Moslems live in the Soviet Union’s Asian republics, many of them in areas close to the Iranian border.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE1DA153EF936A35752C0A96F948260

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Noop Nejad wrote it after a dinner where he consumed excessive amounts of halwa. The result was obviously a foul smelling gas and lotsa hot air that ended up in the letter.

Bottom line: Prez. Nejad doesn't get it (period) just like Hitler who went crazy and then killed himself.

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Answer: War

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OK. Here is one paragraph in the letter, the rubayiat umer Khyam, the shairo shairee.

The brave and faithful people of Iran too have many questions and grievances, including: the coup d’etat of 1953 and the subsequent toppling of the legal government of the day, opposition to the Islamic revolution, transformation of an Embassy into a headquarters supporting, the activities of those opposing the Islamic Republic (many thousands of pages of documents corroborates this claim), support for Saddam in the war waged against Iran, the shooting down of the Iranian passenger plane, freezing the assets of the Iranian nation, increasing threats, anger and displeasure vis-à-vis the scientific and nuclear progress of the Iranian nation (just when all Iranians are jubilant and collaborating [celebrating] their country’s progress), and many other grievances that I will not refer to in this letter.

And just one line addresses the core issue. Iranian nukes. But this shairo-shairee refuses to address what this pipsqueek Prez. nejad is going to do about them.

And what about apologizing for taking US staff in Iran as hostage. Bunch of tribals now want to be world leaders.

Just plain ole beardos, and nothing new.

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Ahmedinejad :k:

Can that Chimp Bush even write one page of a letter?

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Next thing you may ask, Can Prez. Bush right poetry like Umer Khiyam, Hafiz, or Saadi. Heck no! but he can surely kick @ss of the bearded hazrat.

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The chimp Bush also choked on a pretzel once, and is regulalrly lampooned for being a first class dumbo when it comes to speaking.

Bush should follow Jimmy "peanut farmer" Carter and get his ass kicked by Hazrat 1979 style as well.

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Give Ahmedinejad a break ppl,............i personally think dere is nthn rong wid d guy,....if Pak, Ind and Israel can have nukes den y shudn Iran b able 2 have em,.......................jus stupid,..............Bush jus luks 4 any chance 2 attack Muslim countries

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It’s hugely satisfying to see American’s and their ass-kissers examine every word Ahmedinejad writes or says, and then boil with rage.

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Prez. Nejad’s blabbering on 9-11 is so bizzare that even lefties of America are estonished. Read on guys. View of a liberal media outlet of USA.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2006/05/post.html

The Iranian President’s Mindset

  	    I've now had a chance to read the letter of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to President Bush. 

The letter gives us a pretty good insight into the Iranian leader's mindset: The Iranian president declares, Osama bin Laden-style, that liberalism and democracy have failed, that religious rule is the only legitimate way, that the Middle East and Africa are being held back in scientific and economic progress, and that 9/11 was a conspiracy or a cover-up. 

Predictably, there's no direct reference to Iran's clandestine pursuit of a nuclear bomb.  President Ahmadinejad instead reminds President Bush -- I'm sure he needs reminding -- that the United States was wrong about Iraq, ergo it must be wrong about Iran. 

It may be the first official Iranian dispatch to America since 1979, but by not addressing the nuclear concerns that are on the table right now, the letter sadly provides little hope of deescalating the current tensions. 

What is more, Iran falls into a trap of focusing attention on itself as a state sponsor of terrorism, thus feeding the Bush administration’s growing justification of the eventuality of certain war.
I don’t have the energy to address everything in Ahmadinejad’s letter, but I do want to address 9/11. The Iranian President writes:

September Eleven was a horrendous incident. The killing of innocents is deplorable and appalling in any part of the world. Our government immediately declared its disgust with the perpetrators and offered its condolences to the bereaved and expressed its sympathies.
All governments have a duty to protect the lives, property and good standing of their citizens. Reportedly your government employs extensive security, protection and intelligence systems – and even hunts its opponents abroad. September eleven was not a simple operation. Could it be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services – or their extensive infiltration? Of course this is just an educated guess. Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities? And, why aren’t those responsible and the guilty parties identified and put on trial?
I hope all readers can see where Ahmadinejad is factually incorrect, but given that far too many Americans basically agree, there is no question we have a problem.

9/11 wasn't a simple operation; it was meticulously planned over many years and carried out in the face of enormous risk. 

I read from 9/11 that al Qaeda is therefore an organization that can be diabolical in its simplicity and is capable of and motivated to doing far worse.  Al Qaeda thus demands a worldwide campaign of eradication. 

I read 9/11 as a massive failure of the intelligence and security services not their triumph.  These services weren't able to detect or thwart the attacks, were unable to really understand the adversary, and were incapable of carrying out their basic functions of even screening passengers on an airline flight.  The intelligence and security services have certainly never paid for their failures.  In fact, they've been rewarded. 

But what makes anyone think that the very intelligence and security services who failed to detect or thwart the attack could be the masterminds behind the attacks?  The only real possibility in this conspiracy theory is that the same intelligence and security services that failed on 9/11 are the perpetrators.  It has got to be the CIA, planning and pulling off 9/11 on behalf of the Bush administration to start a war against Islam that would result in a war in Iraq that would result in tensions with Iran that would result in thousands of American deaths and injuries and the lowest popularity of an American war president in history. 

All, I guess, so that ExxonMobil can make unprecedented profits. 

That al Qaeda didn't act alone was the first impulse of the Bush White House and the reason why Iraq so quickly ended up on their radar screen.  It is a discredited and pernicious theory.  
Ironically, by Iran aligning itself with the theory of a state sponsor, it too is now placing the bull's-eye on its own chest.  What is more, the close identification of Ahmadinejad's ideas with the bin Laden mindset must be confirming in the minds of the desktop warriors of the Bush administration that Iran is indeed a terrorist state that must be eliminated.

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Diplomatic? Being ordered to not persue something that is your nation's soverign right is hardly a diplomatic request...it's a virtual declaration of war.