Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
No they dont have answer MUlla from denmark.
They can never ever justify mirza as eligible for a religious post-
ALLAH un ko hidayat day
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
The questioner has no knowledge of how ahmadiyya jamaat is organized. The electoral college comprises of the senior figures among the jamaat. These senior figures include a majority of elected members as well as religious scholars who have served the cause of Islam all their lives.
Each chapter or Jamaat has an election. All chanda paying members vote to elect their leadership. They elect their presidents and Ameers. These elected members eventually become ameers or presidents of regions and countries. The most senior and reputed among these are members of the electoral college which comprises of members from all over the world. Now these "handfull" of people have a vote to elect the next Khalifa.
This is a very democratic and trasparent matter. I am surprised when you raise such a baseless allegation.
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
Besides no voting rights what else does one forfeit for not paying chanda?
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
The meeting which was held to elect khalifa 5. Why Ahmadiyya administrative system had hide the whole meeting on mta.
They had not show what was happening inside FAZAL MOSQUE LONDON. why they hide the election meeting.??
:)
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
rally. Not paying chanda only debars the members from taking any office in the jamaat. Thats it.
Mulla, Electoral college is not like a royat e hilal committee which requires full media coverage and long list of names announced in the news. The memers of the college are the trusted members of the Jamaat and that is enough for Ahmadis as a guarantee that a free and fair election is held.
The names of other nominees, number of votes etc are not disclosed to public to avoid useless speculations.
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
If you have doubts about the Khalifa, there is no compulsion on you to do baiat. You can keep away.
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
The meeting which was held to elect khalifa 5. Why Ahmadiyya administrative system had hide the whole meeting on mta.
They had not show what was happening inside FAZAL MOSQUE LONDON. why they hide the election meeting.??
:)
Why do they hide the pope elections?
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
Mulla Sahib, Ahmadiyya system of electoral colleg to raha aik tarf, it seems like you are not even aware of Islamic history. At the time of the election of Hazrat Abu Bakar (ra) a "handful" of people were present, the rest of the Muslims from far off places came afterwards only to attend the funeral prayers of AnHazoor (saw) and take bait at the hand of Hazrat Abu Bakar (ra). The situation wasn't very different afterwards and thus the divisions and wars.
Also, one thing distinoo didn't mention is that the Ahmadiyya electoral college was established by Hazrat Khalifatul-Masiah II, before that the the two elections of Khulafa were based more so on the nomination without any system.
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
http://www.alghulam.com/ahmadiyyanews/Editorial-Aug-06-1-Khilafat-Ahmadiyya.html
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
visit alislam.org aap ko ap ke sab sawalo ke jawab mil jaye ge.
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
ppl the correct word is not ahmidi
its friggin qadyani or kafir.
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
ppl the correct word is not ahmidi its friggin qadyani or kafir.
Why dont you first learn how to spell to AHMADI hu?
rofl a person calling an Ahmadi kafir who cant even spell to Ahmadi......such an ignorant..... Get a life, dude.
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
ppl the correct word is not ahmidi its friggin qadyani or kafir.
Most of the people dont know this fact that the actual AHMADIYAH belonged to a small Sufi Order who were the followers of Hazrat Ahmad-al-Badawi (AR) a Sufi Saint in Tanta, Egypt around 1276 AD.
So from historical perspective, AHMADI is term which was used for the followers of Hazart Ahmad-al-Badawi (AR) and not Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan whose claims of divinity appeared around 1870s. So in case of his followers it is a mis-nomer.
The followers or adherents of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan can be given following titles or names. Lets see their suitabilty;
1) Mirzai from Mirza; He belonged to the Barlas subcaste of Mughals hence the prefix MIRZA. This too would be incorrect as there have been many other Mughal/Mirza leaders and personalities. Using this term only with the followeres of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan would be an injustice to them.
2) Ghulami or Ghulaman from Ghulam; This would also be inappropriate as Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan was a free man and not a Ghulam or Slave. Moreover a dynasty with the same post-fix had already ruled India i.e., Khandan-e-Ghulaman or Slave Dynasty.
3) Ahmadi from Ahmad; This would be totllay incorrect. Firstly because an AHMADIYAH community already existed in 1270s in Egypt. Secondly Ahmad is the name of our Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (SAW). To use this term for a community very much against the ULTIMATE FINALITY of AHMAD-E-MUJTABA, MUHAMMAD-E-MUSTAFA (SAW) would be BLASHPHEMY in my humble opinion.
4) Qadiyani from Qadiyan; Although the word Qadiyani was not part of the name of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but since he belonged to Qadiyan, and was noted throughout India with this reference, it almost became a part of his name. Moreover, Qadiyan came into lime light because of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. If we say that Qadiyan is known because of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and not vice versa, in this context the most suitable term for his followers and adherents is QADIYANI.
Regards.
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
so, in this case …is it ok for christian to refer to Muslims as Makkans or something like that , since Makka came into lime light because of Prophet Muhammad PBUH. ??
this is absolutely ridiculous. Qadiyani is anyone whose from Qadian. Lahori is anyone whose from Lahore…Multani is anyone whose from Multan etc.:halo:
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
You "MUSLIMS" behave like fools.. You accuse the Ahmadis in the same way that most non Muslims accuse Muslims of being members of a violent sect of barabraians etc.
You insult Ahmadi relgious sensitivities as though you are the thekadars of Islam.
You and your version of Islam is a curse that deserves to be wiped out of the minds of its followers.
Such so called Muslims expect respect from the world when they dont even have the descency to respect there own.
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
Most of the people dont know this fact that the actual AHMADIYAH belonged to a small Sufi Order who were the followers of Hazrat Ahmad-al-Badawi (AR) a Sufi Saint in Tanta, Egypt around 1276 AD.
So from historical perspective, AHMADI is term which was used for the followers of Hazart Ahmad-al-Badawi (AR) and not Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan whose claims of divinity appeared around 1870s. So in case of his followers it is a mis-nomer.
The followers or adherents of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan can be given following titles or names. Lets see their suitabilty;
1) Mirzai from Mirza; He belonged to the Barlas subcaste of Mughals hence the prefix MIRZA. This too would be incorrect as there have been many other Mughal/Mirza leaders and personalities. Using this term only with the followeres of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan would be an injustice to them.
2) Ghulami or Ghulaman from Ghulam; This would also be inappropriate as Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadiyan was a free man and not a Ghulam or Slave. Moreover a dynasty with the same post-fix had already ruled India i.e., Khandan-e-Ghulaman or Slave Dynasty.
3) Ahmadi from Ahmad; This would be totllay incorrect. Firstly because an AHMADIYAH community already existed in 1270s in Egypt. Secondly Ahmad is the name of our Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (SAW). To use this term for a community very much against the ULTIMATE FINALITY of AHMAD-E-MUJTABA, MUHAMMAD-E-MUSTAFA (SAW) would be BLASHPHEMY in my humble opinion.
4) Qadiyani from Qadiyan; Although the word Qadiyani was not part of the name of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but since he belonged to Qadiyan, and was noted throughout India with this reference, it almost became a part of his name. Moreover, Qadiyan came into lime light because of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. If we say that Qadiyan is known because of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and not vice versa, in this context the most suitable term for his followers and adherents is QADIYANI.
Regards.
Ahmadis call themselves Ahmadi and Ahmadiya.......their tv channel mta stands for Muslim something ahmadiya.(please correct me)
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
You "MUSLIMS" behave like fools.. You accuse the Ahmadis in the same way that most non Muslims accuse Muslims of being members of a violent sect of barabraians etc. You insult Ahmadi relgious sensitivities as though you are the thekadars of Islam. You and your version of Islam is a curse that deserves to be wiped out of the minds of its followers. Such so called Muslims expect respect from the world when they dont even have the descency to respect there own.
Muslims respect every one as a human being.........but they don't agree with the ahmadiya views and their prophet. And they have a right to disagree as ahmadiya has a right to disagree with Islam and Muslims.
Re: Ahmadiyyo se sawal !
^ keep cool baby
Ahmadiyya is only disagreeing with the Islam practised in some countries...
for example Pakistan...
There's a beatiful story to shed some light on your blinded eyes:
Hazrat Mirza Ghulam used to have a daily night walk with his whife!
One day some Non-Ahmadis asked Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad why his whife doesn't stay at home as it is her job to stay at home and take care of the house + children...
Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad asked the Non Ahmadis:
Is a woman not a human being? Is she just a slave of her husband who only has to fulfill the duty in the house and of her husband? Is she not allowed to go outside in the fresh air, have a walk?
As usual, Mirza Ghulam Ahmads left his foes stunn, but he always prayed for them like a real man of Allah does...
Itna saalim zulamm khora hay Ahmadiyyon ke khilaf! They are not allowed to go on Hajj. Saudi Arabia has forbidden it and you have the guts to make the world believe that we Ahmadis disagree with Islam and Muslims?
As if the Arabs leased Mekka & the Kaaba and now they decide who is allowed 2 come in and out!
I will pray for you soul sister and may Allah lead to you the right way, which ever it is!
Remember:
Whoever calls his fellow Muslim brother a non muslim, he's a non muslim, either...