Nadia, please give it a rest! Your energies can be better used elsewhere :-)
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Degas, have you ever used the search facility provided by gupshup? Maybe you should give it a try and find out for yourself who opens which thread.
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yes I do.. and I gave three examples from recent posts poted about Ahmadis.. perhaps u can check again..
So how many were opened by Ahmadis and how many by non-Ahmadis, care to give us the stats?
And the one you noted, first and third seem to be direct answers of earlier threads like Question to Ahmadis I, then II .. so on and so forth. The thread about difference in Nabi & Rasool is not an Ahmadi doctrine issue & was raised by Munni to which zalim answered by bringing back an old thread. I know many non-Ahmadis who believe the same way!
Lastly, the issue was not discussing the differences about beliefs it was about over zealously calling names and considering one holier than the other.
smooth_guy .. can you show us where Allah asked you and the likes of you to 'draw lines' and 'exclude' people from the religion of Allah?
alternately you can just flash your badge Allah gave you when he appointed you khudayee faujdaar..
navaazish.
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smooth_guy .. can you show us where Allah asked you and the likes of you to 'draw lines' and 'exclude' people from the religion of Allah?
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Ur trying to say that Ahmadis dont "draw lines" !!! what do ahmadis feel about non-ahmadis? believe it or not feelings are mutual.. its same as other muslims dont believe Miza was messenger of God with revelation compared to Ahmadis believing in Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) not as last messenger of Allah on earth!
sigh
Except for Sadzzz, it's interesting that no other female has responded to this thread.
Sometimes i feel no one understands me. This is not where i wanted this thread to turn towards. Now we're all just getting cranky towards each other.
Let's just say - to you your religion, to me mine - and leave it at that, everyone. Please.
Muchas gracias.
Degas,
I beg your pardon! I didn't mean to call you a dog spreading filth in my deen or consider you hell bound wajib-ul-qatil. It must have slipped my tongue.
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*sigh
Except for Sadzzz, it's interesting that no other female has responded to this thread.
** all girls are busy in saas bahu troubles in family section **
Sometimes i feel no one understands me. This is not where i wanted this thread to turn towards. Now we're all just getting cranky towards each other.
Let's just say - to you your religion, to me mine - and leave it at that, everyone. Please.
** close religious section **
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*Originally posted by ahmadjee: *
Degas,
I beg your pardon! I didn't mean to call you a dog spreading filth in my deen or consider you hell bound wajib-ul-qatil. It must have slipped my tongue.
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dilon ke haal Allha hi janta he..
.. and how many non-ahmadis say thta here or in real life.. some ahmadiis also use this language here even if u admit or not.. i have often seen personal swearing too and mods have to clear that all the time.. and that happened in this thread too.. check where sammara edited..
hey Nadia.. dont be disheartened.. i would have replied earlier but i was catching up on my beauty sleep...
there is no point in arguing with people like smooth_guy... islamabad and Co... as they arent ever gonna accept any one elses point of view..
im sorry ur post lead to the wrong path... did u really think it would be discussed sanely and intelligent input would be posted? :)
they justify their beliefs by stating thats what ahmadis think about them... but do all ahmadis think like that? maybe we 'sunnis'.. the chosen ones put hatred in their hearts ... ?
'ek haath se taali nahin bhajti...'
Sorry guys, I'm coming up with this pretty late, but see this Hukm in the Koran:
''Say not to anyone who offers you a salutation: "Thou art none of a believer!"'' (4:94)
Once again, I'd say only Degas's comments highlight whats truely happening on the forum...
We should respect everyone’s right to exist and follow his/her religion in peace, we should treat both Muslims and Non-Muslims well and be kind to them.
But that does not mean that people whose beliefs are in contradiction with the Book-of-Allah and the way of his Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) should be accepted as Muslims, accepting such people in to the fold of Islam is mixing truth with falsehood. Our later generations could be affected by there beliefs, take the example of a Muslim boy ‘marrying’ an Ahmadi girl or vice versa, the Muslim would be committing adultery/fornication there whole lives without even realising it. Or Muslims eating meat slaughtered by Ahmadis, which is haram because as far as I know only meat slaughtered by the Muslims or the People of the Book is allowed.
The Aqeeda of Muslims who does not know much about their religion is in danger and these are just a few reasons why the respected scholars of Islam speak out against such people to defend the true pristine and pure Islam that was brought by the Beloved of Allah (peace be upon him) without any addition or deletion.
People who say that only Allah is the judge of who is Muslim and who is not, well I agree with that 100% and that is exactly what the true scholars do, make Allah the judge by using his word the holy Quran and the Sunnah of his Messenger (peace be upon him) to judge and to guide mankind to the truth.
May Allah guide us all to the straight path, which leads to salvation, Ameen. 
When a Muslim sees something wrong he/she should fix it with his hands if he is unable to do that he should speak out against it and if he can’t even do that then he should at least consider it to be wrong in his heart and this (i.e. the latter) is the weakest of faith.
And Allah Ta’ala knows best.
EXACTLY, ONLY Allah(swt) knows if Ahmadis are Muslim and not, BUT what I see, many Mullahs took the role of Allah(swt) and decide about other belief. 
hehe.
Thanks for your encouragement, Sadzzz.
i got caught up in some imaginary, John Lennon type world where i actually believed we could all just get along despite our (religious) differences - reminded me of Spain under Muslim rule when it became a haven for persecuted Jews.
oh well sigh i guess i will return to my customary habits of posting articles regarding Christian/Jewish reverts to Islam. i rarely get any replies in those types of threads - Insha’Allah it will be far less controversial :halo: :o
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EXACTLY, ONLY Allah(swt) knows if Ahmadis are Muslim and not, BUT what I see, many Mullahs took the role of Allah(swt) and decide about other belief.
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But the Mullahs are making Allah the judge of who is Muslim and who is not by using his Book and the Sunnah of his Messenger (peace be upon him). Our Lord Almighty has said it clearly in the Holy Scripture that there is no new Prophet to come after Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). (May Allah guide those who deliberately translate and intrepret his sacred words wrongly to mean something other than what they mean).
Mullahs are not taking over the role of Allah (the Exalted), they are doing what Allah has ordered them to do and that is judge using the Quran which is Allah's word and the Sunnah which he inspired to his Messenger (peace be upon him).
Sister I don’t think anyone said we shouldn’t get along with each other. Protecting, giving shelter and a secure home to the persecuted weather they are Muslim or Non-Muslim is definitely a great act and will earn the pleasure of our Rabb Almighty Allah.
I think everyone agrees, “Hate the sin but not the sinner”.
We should invite them to correct there beliefs and pray to the Most-Merciful to open their hearts to the truth but if they continue to follow their deviated paths then we are to leave them alone, to them there religion and to us ours.
Nadia, this is a very good topic you have brought up … thoughts I have often wondered to myself.
What you say is true … I agree with you 100%.
Unfortunately, no matter how much we attempt to enlighten certain individuals, it seems that they will continue in their narrow-mindedness, breed hatred and intolerance towards “kafirs” and they will continue to use religion (and now the Constitution of Pakistan) as their excuse for their racist and prejudicial behaviour … eventhough Islam clearly does not permit or encourage hatred, discrimination or intolerance towards any non-Muslim … Ahmadi, Qadiyani, Hindu, Sikh, Buddist or Jew.
However, you should be encouraged by the fact that there are people like you in this world who are attempting to put an end to this widespread ignorance and intolerance.
Well thought and written Nadia. However, I still think that there is a lot more to this issue. It’s not about being sceptical to someone’s faith and calling them kafir. But instead I think to some extent it very much depends how well-groomed the person is and how he/she was brought up. I have seen certain cases where parents have groomed their children under strict conditions and therefore, were taught to literally hate other casts/religions. Hmm and putting that into perspective, one can surely grasp the whole problem of extreme hate and detestation towards other religions. I don’t know hmmm I just think we can not just blame one particular individual/group. Its part of our society, which is turning their generation into hate wards and you really can not stop this issue at present. The best thing would be to just try to correct ourselves and certainly try not to be confrontational over religious matters.