psyah brother-as i trust ur sources n wat u say can u plz gimme a low down on wats goin on i mean im very konfused about all this, strt with what ahmedis r n who they believe in plz..... if u dnt mind me saying do ahmedis beleive the guy that used to drink wine n got so drunk he died to b a prophet?well i find that soooo funny sorry no offence meant to anyone i just wrote wat i knw n heard
Peace sister sweetu
Ahmadis are indeed followers of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani. Who came around 100 years ago during the times when India was struggling with Britain for independence. Qadian is an area in India.
According to Ahmadis he is the Mahdi, but according to Sunnis and Shias for that matter he cannot be for a number of reasons. Anyway, after claiming to be him he also claimed to be Isa (AS) in that they are one in the same person. All Muslims are waiting for Isa (AS) to come back in his second coming to lead the world toward peace and establish Islam in all corners. Some people like the Ahmadis interpret many of the end times hadith in a metaphoric way and thus they arrive at concluding that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was who he claimed to be. Because the British were more tolerant of a passive ideology such as the one brought by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad they began to rise and grow. Our leaders in that time were very much caught up in ferocious talk and the newly emerging diplomatic arena bent a slant towards Muslims as being uncivilised and unruly. Jihad is thus tamed down when it comes to Ahmadis they prefer to get into debates and discussion.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad impressively wrote many books and parts of them in five other languages. This feat intrigued the mostly ignorant Indians of 100 years ago very much. I believe he was the son of a laywer, so he may have learned the art of argumentation from a good source.
Ahmadis do believe that Muhammad (SAW) is the greatest and seal of prophets, but their actions are not synchronised with their words, making it seem like lip service. They however, believe that the narrations of the second coming are not to be Isa (AS) himself as he according to them has died and is buried in Kashmir. The Ummah reject this assertion and we believe that he is still alive and shall return. The Bible makes an interesting comment that Jesus (AS) will return in the same state that he left this world.
There are darker versions of history which connect a few more dots and move into his actual life and habits. These are things that Ahmadis reject about the claims regarding him, but now as we can see many of these are in their own provided links. They have acquired a similar skill in that they are very good at giving alternative explanations to quite simple hadith and statements. This systematic process of explaining things in round about ways is how this group has managed to last so long.
I don't know if he drunk, but he asked for wine. I don't know if he took opium, but he made a medicine from it ...
I have my personal thoughts but I am looking for proof. Just recently I have seen that he wrote a statement about his wife asking him to be the only person to wash her dead body. This I found interesting as this statement was made by Fatimah (RA) to Ali (RA). Also he said that he felt the pains of child birth taking the exact words from the Qur'an but only replacing the she with he. How a man can have child bearing pains defeats me, but it seems a bit odd, we can demand an explanation from our Ahmadi brothers.
Another thing he said which really makes me think is that "one does not attain high spiritual status until he undergoes a kind of death" these again are not original to him. These words sound as if they have come from the Triadic esoteric beliefs. The Mithras worshippers used to say this, and this legacy cascades into the more recent masonic groups. Kamran Rad who is a Muslim author also writes that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had dealings with such people. But you see all this is speculative reading between the lines. What is for sure is that his own works are inconsistent and random from what I have seen so far.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad received many visions and dreams and I believe he did. But I doubt heavily that he was visited by anything good. He has said that he was offered the world by God in human form and in another case he felt like God. These are clear tricks from Shaytan, because the style is his that he tempts using lures of this world.