now…i understand the elated pakistanis when it comes to the current bashing of militants in the northern areas. but..a concrete strategy (against insurgency) would include a coherent plan to rehabilitate the affected areas and the IDPs. interesting thing about this euphemism (IDP) Internally Displaced Persons. seems not at all that bad does it? It should rather be Internally Distressed Persons to convey the real **** they are going through.
anyhow..coming back to the topic. The government does not seem to have worked out a strategy to help maintain a society that will help keep those terrorist at bay once the army is done with its job. Im talking about a working administration and a police (perhaps) and at least a seizable army presence until the civilians are ready to take over. The government is at the same time interested in waziristan as well. Will Pakistan be able to cope with all of this? the chances of insurgents returning are great without some serious actions taken by the government
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Has any government in the Pakistani history, ever worked out a plan before or after doing anything?
Lets face it , we are a nation that doesnt know how to choose our leaders , since the independence we have been always somehow choosing the wrong guys .
How can we convince the stupid Government to think of a proper strategy, people have been screaming the same words since this entire thing started , but Mr zardari and his dogs are busy dancing with the girls in five star hotels in America .
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Vienna,16-06-2009
Get the best help in the neighbour hood, may from Bangla Desh,
India all volunteers mean NGOs, young women of any religion
or caste but with health care nursing experience. You get it
all for the asking because all are concerned.But make note
it is your country, you ask invite.
Kalidasa
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I wonder how many of you actually visit IDP's camp & donate some $. The situation is not like Bosnia, Uganda, Ethopia.. or else. So stop the crap, government is managing them with all the available resources.
Buner population is allow to go back and hefty amount of them already went back. The brain farts of Taliban Khan & Jammat Islami is behaving worst in this situation, they set their bets on opposition of USA, what a crap !
I wonder how many of you actually visit IDP's camp & donate some $. The situation is not like Bosnia, Uganda, Ethopia.. or else. So stop the crap, government is managing them with all the available resources.
What about the donations coming from abroad? Government is least concerned.and i say that confidently. All that we see on television and the management of IDPs...well of course they have to do something..they cant sit back. So they set up camps and enjoy the call girls abroad. that is the reality
What about the donations coming from abroad? Government is least concerned.and i say that confidently. All that we see on television and the management of IDPs...well of course they have to do something..they cant sit back. So they set up camps and enjoy the call girls abroad. that is the reality
So all the camps are created by Foreigners? The people who are managing those camps are French/Italian???
I am not in state of denial but you seems to be. One way we call media free... on the other hand we don't believe a shyt what media shows.
Why not you tell us who we trust? Taliban khan & Jammat Islami?
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the question is not abt whether the government is doing anything at all. the question is..is pakistan in a state with its super corrupt state heads ready to cope a crisis like this? the answer is an overwhelming NO
the question is not abt whether the government is doing anything at all. the question is.**.is pakistan in a state with its super corrupt state heads ready to cope a crisis like this? **the answer is an overwhelming NO
Again wrong, they are managing and fighting a war. No matter who is sitting in President/Prime Minister house, that's the way war should be fighted. Everything is moving into right direction, the "gaand" of last 40 years will not go like that, we have to pay the price with blood and we are.
The days of Jihadism/Terrorism against neighbors is gone for sure. The public perspective of Taliban/Religious-Idiot's is totally changed and that's a key.
We are managing IDP's with best of our resources available, no one came out from camps and start doing protest yet. When they do then cry about it!
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You sound like the awaited Messiah! Gone are days of bloodshed and tyranny. yeah right. The army will continue to reap of profits from their benefactors and poor will be deluded, like the past several several several years. A protest u say? how about a homeless guy with no electricity and scarce food.
You sound like the awaited Messiah! Gone are days of bloodshed and tyranny. yeah right. The army will continue to reap of profits from their benefactors and poor will be deluded, like the past several several several years. A protest u say? how about a homeless guy with no electricity and scarce food.
I think you didn't know only those people are in camps who are very poor and can't afford anything at all. Rest are in their own leased houses or with their relatives.
If you are looking for a utopia, then that never happened in the world.
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Wow you guys are idiots. Man do any of you know how an IDP camp is run? Obviously not by the posts here. Islamic Relief (a MUSLIM NGO) with 90% Pakistani staff supports half of the IDP camps from SWAT. They work closely with the government and more importantly coordinate all activities with the Govt for NFIs, food stuff, medical supplies etc.
If you have specific questions about IDP camps let me know. I deal with a few in my location in Darfur.
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They will return. Secondly this military offensive against the Taliban is not part of the war on terror. It is linked to exercising our writ in the nation state. The Taliban are no different than the LTTE or the Lord's Army in Uganda.
I am always surpised at the disconnect that exists between most of us so-called-educated Pakistanis and the masses.
What price the masses have to pay so that we can stay in the good books of the Americans?
2-3 millions have to be made homeless so that we can catch a couple of thousands of terrorists !!
The Indians have been fighting the Kashmiris for more than 60 yrs. We like to call them names, but if they had used our tactics , there would be nobody living over there right now.
Helicopter gunships and heavy artillery against our own villiages.
Beheadings, suicide bombings, forced marriages (rape) against our own people. If the indians did this against our own people, would we also sign a surrender agreement with them?
Get it through your head, when “our” villages are centers of such evil acts, they stop being innocent.
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CM is correct. Many NGOs and the government are all working to take care of the IDPs. Clinics and schools have been established.
Hot weather is a burden on the women, elderly, and the children. But you have a choice between beheaded by a Taliblees, or living in hot weather for June and July. Take your pick.
While all the hoooopla about IDPs is being raised, the sympathizers of Tal-Ibleesis give a hoot to the families of our shahid soldiers, or smirk at the precious blood spilled by our jawans.
The people who have been made homeless were not complicit in the evil deeds you speak of. Most of the Talibani leaders have probably crawled back into the caves from where they came from. It is the innocent people who have mostly paid the price. You may find it acceptable as “Collateral Damage”, but please forgive me if I do not.
Make no mistake my friend , I have no sympathy for the Taliban. I am only questioning the logic of operations which have harmed normal people more than the Taliban.
I am sorry if I offended you by mentioning India , but I only wanted to underline that though they have so many insurgencies, at least the affected people have their own homes ( however miserable their lives may be is another question altogether different )
.....I have no sympathy for the Taliban. I am only questioning the logic of operations ...
anyone who questions the "logic of operations" after heinous acts of Taliblees khabees quom, is simply a sympathizer. Perhaps an unwitting and innocent sympathizer, but still at least the INDIRECT supporter of Taliblees quom.
it is like a chor is robbing banks, and when police tries to catch them the supporters of chors will always question the police action.
