After NWFP US may strike Baluchistan

Should drone attacks now cover Baluchistan?

U.S. assertions that the Afghan Taliban leadership is hiding in and around the Pakistani city of Quetta have raised fears among residents that American missile-firing drone aircraft could launch strikes on the area.

Fear grows of U.S. strikes in Pakistan’s Baluchistan | Reuters

The United States, grappling with an intensifying insurgency in Afghanistan, has carried out 41 drone strikes in northwestern Pakistan this year after 32 such strikes last year, according to a tally of reports from security agents, officials and residents.

Pakistani officials deny that a Taliban leadership council known as the “Quetta shura” is based in the Afghan refugee camps outside the city, capital of Baluchistan province that borders violence-plagued southern Afghanistan.

But as President Barack Obama ponders his options in Afghanistan, some U.S. officials have suggested the pilotless aircraft strikes be expanded from the northwest to Baluchistan.

Baluchistan, with a fragile ethnic mix of Baluchis and Pashtuns, is Pakistan’s biggest but poorest province despite having the country’s largest reserves of natural gas.

Many Baluchis resent what they see as exploitation of the province’s resources by richer provinces. Baluch separatist rebels have been fighting a low-level guerrilla war for decades.

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Hell no. Damnit what the hell are the American's thinking? More Pakistanis will die like this. Zardari and his cronies are sending this counrty to hell on the damn short bus.

You would love that huh?

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Of course the Indians would Happy. They would love to see innocent Pakistani women and children die.

If Pakistan does not assert its sovereignty then outsiders, whether the US or China, will have to crush Jihad, Inc. to protect their security (all governments work to protect their people from threats. Well, except one government..). If Pakistan really cared about its sovereignty it would not let Jihad, Inc. run wild on its "sovereign" territory for 8 years and counting. What other country allows those sworn to destroy it bases on its soil? Every other country with a longstanding government (to except Afghanistan) facing terror from its borders has crushed it: Russia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Indonesia, the Philippines, etc.

Let's see what Pakistan's new offensive does. Will it really crush the terrorists or will Pakistan bomb for a few days before signing another "peace deal" to allow terrorists space and time to regain their strength?

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^^ exactly....the entire taliban leadership is hiding out in quetta with the haqqani network

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And these two say they are Pakistanis :rolleyes:

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^^ similar accusations were made by people like you against Germans in the 1930's and 1940's who were against Nazi Germany and Hitler

Any criticism that you throw against me, I consider it a compliment since we differ Night and Day on what is best for Pakistan

I wish for a peaceful constructive Pakistan that lives harmoniously with its neighbors, while you wish for a Pakistan funding jihad, preaching hate, etc.

yeah, the mighty US after failing utterly to control Afghanistan is now trying to put the blame on Pakistan. What have they achieved in Afghanistan in the last 7 years. They should look at their dismal and pathetic performance there and tryy to improve it before embarking on further stupid adventures. They never seem to learn, be it Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia or Iraq.

Why do you think people who differ with you become anti-pakistani? Are you the only one here proPakistani? This is old rhetoric of jamaatis.

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For every death caused by indiscriminate bombing potentially motivates ten suicide bombers.

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Not everybody Niden. But they fail to see the logic of their actions. The point that Kakaballi made. The more they are bombed, the more suicide bombers are produced. Carpet bombing causes loss of human life in an exponential scale.

However ground troops coupled with strategic development based on a culster approach. That works. Hell it is what we do here in darfur and you can read by all reports that the scale of fighting in Darfur has decreased exceptionally in the past two years.

The policy advocated simply reinforces the cycle of more suicide bombers and more violence. The approach does not work in stopping violence. The past two years in pakistan should have easily proven that.

Well-said.

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yeah, the mighty US after failing utterly to control Afghanistan is now trying to put the blame on Pakistan.
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It is estimated that there are at most 100 al-Qaeda members left in Afghanistan. Some of them have been killed or captured but where do you think the rest of them are?

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They never seem to learn, be it Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia or Iraq.

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Lebanon/Somalia were far different than Iraq/Vietnam.

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he point that Kakaballi made. The more they are bombed, the more suicide bombers are produced.
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His "solution" to "stop" suicide bombing is apparently to just wait until they have all conducted suicide bombings and there are none left.

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Carpet bombing causes loss of human life in an exponential scale.
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Look up what carpet bombing is. No one is talking about that.

Pakistan tried the soft approach on terrorism, made several "peace deals' with them and they failed. The only solution is to do what every other country facing internal terror has done: use every means at your disposal to crush them. Look at Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Russia, Indonesia, Turkey, the Philippines, etc. Only Pakistan took the soft approach; only Pakistan has seen things get worse (Afghansitan too but that is because Pak is harboring all the terrorists that attack Afghanistan as well as Pakistan)

If you compare the murders/death committed by:

Islamists
USA/West
Communistss
Nazi's

Then who commited the most last 100 years?
last 200 years even? last 300 years even?
last 400 years even?
lastt 500 years if you want????

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Learn to read numbnuts. Nobody said not to fight them. Nobody said that they should not be dealt with. What people have an objection is to carpet bombing that leads to the death of innocent people which even the population of the US and Europe have an objection too.

Its easy to be an arm chair general with no real experience on the ground.

Wow ... US has been carpet bombing in Pakistan ... i mean you do understand the mean of carpet bombing .... getting your carpet hit by a bomb does not count:D

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I really need to stop working and typing on GS. You are right. Carpet bombing is not being discussed. However precision guided missiles also kill innocents and fuel the suicide bombers.

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WASHINGTON: The United States has now turned its focus to Quetta, claiming that it has now become a major Taliban base from where Mullah Omar and his commanders plan and launch cross-border strikes into Afghanistan.

On Tuesday, The Washington Post quoted US Ambassador to Pakistan Anne W. Patterson as saying that Quetta was high on Washington’s list of terrorist bases in the region.

‘In the past, we focussed on Al Qaeda because they were a threat to us. The Quetta Shura mattered less to us because we had no troops in the region,’ she said. ‘Now our troops are there on the other side of the border, and the Quetta Shura is high on Washington’s list.’

Gen Stanley A. McChrystal, the top US and…

She said Pakistani officials were growing ‘extremely nervous’ that the current policy disputes in Washington would lead to a premature US pullout from Afghanistan. ‘They will not rush to cut ties with the Taliban if they think they will be back in charge there again,’ she said…

DAWN.COM | World | Patterson says Quetta Shura high on US list

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That is too bad. Those missiles minimize civilian casualties as much as humanly possible. The US could carpet bomb or even nuke jihadist areas but chooses not to. It is being as surgical as possible. If civilians don’t want a Hellfire missile landing on their roof they need to stop harboring terrorists in their neighborhoods…

Will you tell me how much people your beloved master USA has saved by minimising civilian casulties.
You have your mouth full with minimising casulties but you do not rep about the casulties that were caused by USA since last 100 year? how come you are so selective bro?