After marriage ..........

What things a husband can do with her wife. ( Jaiz in islam )

I mean apart from intercourse could a man kiss her wife on lips and other things …
Well it sounds ridic. to me to ask such question , but this shows there isnt any good way fir a young girl / guy to have knowledge abt these things.

Actually I have to ask this question here coz i cud not find any otehr way to get the answers.

** If a couple doesnot have intercourse after marriage for say 4 months then does it means end of marriage **

thanks

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If a couple doesnot have intercourse after marriage for say 4 months then does it means end of marriage **

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of course not! that would mean that after every pregnancy people have to re-marry again? cuz usually couples don't have sex in the last months of pregnancy

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of course not! that would mean that after every pregnancy people have to re-marry again? cuz usually couples don't have sex in the last months of pregnancy
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they dont, is that right. Come on married guppies please tell us.

Since you are asking from an Islamic view-point, so there is an ayat in the Quran, which basically states that the husband and wife can engage in any kind of affectionate or sexual behavior with each other in private.

I have read only two prohibitions to this blanket approval: (1) Sex during the period when the wife is menstruating (having periods), and (2) Husband should not insert his penis in the rectum of the wife. I don’t think these prohibitions are in the Quran, rather they are derived from the teachings of the Prophet :saw:

Hope it helps.

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I have not heard any such rule, that if a marriage is not consumated within a certain period after nikkah, then the nikkah become invalid. However, this is an interesting question. Check with some one knowledgable in Islam. If you do find an answer, pls post here. Thanks.

ASA

Thanks for the reply
Let me clarify the problem. I m sure that many wud not believe this but this is true.

I am gonna get married with in one year. I talk to my fiancee some time. One day in some way discussion moved towards things after marraige where we will go,what should we do, etc etc.

I was in a nughty mood so told here that first thing I will do is to kiss her lips.

She got kinda dejected n
.......she told that it is out of qouestion . She think that I see lot of english movies so why i m saying so

.. I thaught it is just shyness , so by some means i digged in some more and to my surpirse she dont know much abt the relation of marraige. I tried to tell her that this is all legal. but she dont believe it. She thought that this ,( even she dont know what this means ) cud be done once or twice only for child. not any more. This made even me a bit shaky ( as I dont ahve any first hand knwoledge ,by some book or some aalim )

now I first want to make my self clear n if find some book then will refer it to her. Though I found some websites which confirms what faisal bhai wrote but the problem is that she cud not use internet.

If some one knows abt any book then do rite

Thanks

I think Faisal's reply has your answer.
And for your Fiancée, Ask her to have some discussion with her married friends or cousins about it. So that her mind open up a bit :)

I am sorry. I think I made a slight error when I said that two exceptions (sex during menstruation and sex in rectum) are not in Quran. In fact, in most translations, these exceptions are mentioned in ayat 2:222 (Sura Baqra: Ayat 222). The translation (by Pickthal) is as follows:
222: They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not in unto them till they are cleansed. And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah hath enjoined upon you. Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him, and loveth those who have a care for cleanness.
For the same ayat... in the summarized version of At-Tabari, Al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir with comments from Sahih Al-Bukhari By Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali, Ph.D. Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan .. the translation is as follows
222:They ask you concerning menstruation. Say: that is an Adha (a harmful thing for a husband to have a sexual intercourse with his wife while she is having her menses), therefore keep away from women during menses and go not unto them till they have purified (from menses and have taken a bath). And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allâh has ordained for you (go in unto them in any manner as long as it is in their vagina). Truly, Allâh loves those who turn unto Him in repentance and loves those who purify themselves (by taking a bath and cleaning and washing thoroughly their private parts, bodies, for their prayers, etc.).
Continuing on in 2:223, here is what Allah T'allah says. Again its Pickthal's translation
223: Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad).
Ponder over its meaning, and if still not clear, check some tafseer or explanation. Ask your finacee to do the same. Allah doesn't say that sexual activity is solely for procreation (having babies). Infact the relationship between a husband and a wife are as much for pleasure as it is for having babies. Also, it is liked for husband and wife to show affection towards each other. Check out the sunnah of the Prophet (saw) Also there are some manners of affection which can be public, e.g. husband can give gifts, flowers etc to his wife in public; and there are certain things which are best only done in private.

Your fiancee doesn't need to have access to the internet to read Quran or to understand its meaning. You can guide her to the relevant verses (above) which provide guidance about relationship between a husband and wife.

Regarding your second question about 4 months... I did some research, and it seems to me, it relates more to the divorce period than original period within which the marriage needs to consumated. Please read verses 2:226 to 2:242.

Hope it helps. W'Allah o Aalim.

i find that 'sex' is not that complicated in our religion. everything is straight forward, as to what is allowed, and what is not.

I had a friend that had a wife like your fiance. After two years, they were still stuck at the missionary position (semi clothed) as well. Now that I think about it, he shouldn't have been telling me these things, but I kinda helped him out by giving him access to some info on the net, and his reaction was, I can't believe thats allowed. I had a similar reaction when I was gonna get married. I'm glad I found out all this before the shadi, and not after.

Mnay thanks for the effort faisal bhai :k: . I can now refer her for the tafseer ( which I think will easily convince her)
BTW I searched on net n encountered with a site zawaaj.com.

There what I read surprized even me. coz I havnt thought that these will be permitted too. :slight_smile:

Echt, don't worry too much about what will happen after marriage. She is probably playing with you (you fool). Anyway, there is a saying that "aik dafa sherni kay moo khoon lug jaaye tau...". So, once you two have done it, don't be surprised if she wants more (with or without the intention of having children).

Good luck man and let nature take its course. Don't push the issue (or the tissue). If she doesn't want to kiss right away, then so be it. Give her some time.

If you need any further explaination ..go through this web site ..

http://www.islam-qa.com

Dude u can alwayz get an English translated Quran.

PROBLEM!!
my girl friend was over at my place the other day. We started making out and ended up masturbating together:(. However, we did not touch each other while we msaturbated, is that counted as zina (adultery) in Islam?

A Hassan: Why bother with Islam now? You've passed all boundaries and now you've grown a conscience. Honestly man, do what you feel is right at this point. You know deep down that it is wrong, by all accounts in Islam it is wrong. If you enjoy it, its upto you to continue or wait.

^I agree with Coco...if deep down u feel it's wrong(and it is) but can't stop because u really enjoy it as well...I guess u can't do much besides controlling your lust.Think of it this way,u are masturbating together now it won't be long when u get to the real thing and really start regretting it.
On a sidenote...having your girlfriend over doesn't mean u have to find ways to please each other physically.There are tons of other things u can do together.So next time she's over watch a movie together....a PROPER movie..:)

^^ Ya.......a movie like Basic Instinct. :D

Keep ur cool, & dont loose control. There r restrictions 2 what u can do be4 marriage & after marriage.

just like to point out that although the prohibition of intimacy or sexual intercouse if you will is prohibited for menstruating women there is no direct comman in the Qur'an prohibiting anal intercourse.. The translations of Qur'an have relied solely on hadith literature to add to the the explanation of the verse.

I'm not sure about Quran but I have read Hadiths prohibiting anal sex.
But I wanna know what does Islam says about oral sex ?