Afridi: star or slogger?(Merged)

I think he is a ‘slogger’.

An interesting article:

Afridi: star or slogger?

Expectations have always weighed heavily on Shahid Afridi’s shoulders, but the flamboyant all-rounder knows the World Cup is a vital chance to deliver on that promise.
Despite his immense talent, the thrill-seeking opener continues to both delight and confound Pakistan fans.

His unbeaten century against New Zealand last April, along with his merciless mauling of Holland in September underlined him as one of the most lethal limited-overs batsmen in the world.

But Afridi is a match-winner and walking wicket rolled into one.

When he hits he can finish a match off within 20 overs, when he misses he conveys a feckless air of desperation.

Witness his contribution to Leicestershire’s 2001 C&G Trophy campaign.

The county arguably made the final on the back of his efforts at the top of the order.

But his cameo in the final, where he scored 20 off ten balls, left Leicestershire rudderless in their failed run-chase against Somerset.

His career in the green of Pakistan follows a similar theme.

In keeping with his random approach to cricket, Afridi’s discovery as a damaging top-order batsman was somewhat accidental.

Brought into the Pakistan side at 16 years old ostensibly to replace the injured leg-spinner Mushtaq Ahmed, Afridi’s impact with the bat was both instant and breathtaking.

Facing Sri Lanka in his first ODI dig, Afridi bludgeoned 102 off 40 deliveries, equalling the most sixes in an innings (11).

Incidentally, the player with whom he shares the record, Sanath Jayasuriya, went for 94 off his ten overs in that game.

And there begun Afridi’s life as a career pinch-hitter.

Though he still occasionally trundles in with his leg-spinners - he took three wickets against the Dutch.

Indeed, since his mesmerising first knock, Afridi has been a guaranteed fixture for Pakistan at the top of the one-day order.

A selection of other bright moments at international level suggest Afridi could well be rated one of the best there is, a talent tailor-made for the demands of the one-day game.

But his overall record exposes him as shockingly enigmatic, a player whose reputation is founded on what he might do rather than what he does.

Just three centuries and a moderate average tells the story for Afridi, who is still young at 22.

What is more, he has failed to make a real impression in his native land, 72 against India at Karachi in 1997 being his highest score.

The fact remains that Afridi has not fulfilled his potential, though paradoxically his Test record is one that portrays him in a better light.

He averages 32.5 with two centuries from just 14 matches, and he literally beat India in 1999 with his own bat as a second-innings 141 saw Pakistan limp over the line by 12 runs.

Comparisons between Afridi and Australia’s one-day hero Gilchrist abound.

Both can set - or alter - the tone of a match with speed of scoring, both are free improvisers and both please the crowd.

Pakistan selectors clearly believe Afridi can be of equal calibre, but Afridi has some way to go if he can bridge the divide from flawed genius to bona-fide international star.

Interesting article. Agreed there is a tempremental problem with Afrdi but then you cant give him all the blame. He stepped into the side as a replacement for Mushtaq. He played a good innings against Srilanka... but ever since then everybody has tried to work with him to make him a better batsemn. What about bowling. The reason he came in the side.

If given proper training Afridi can emerge as one of the most lethal all rounders of all time. But we shouldnt expect him to come in everytime score a quivk 22 ball 50 and get outta there.

Interesting artcile indeed. Afridi is a very promising all-rounder and if he just be a bit patient out there with the bat, he can be the most lethal all-rounder in the game.

I think he is a star and a slogger. Somedays he is the biggest fool in the world but the next day he bats like the best batsman in the world.

"..best batsman in the world....."

DONT GO TOO FAR!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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mr Moe Best...when he is on his game...he wins Pakistan the match single handed and can destroy any bowling line up for your kind information.

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Umair is right.. tell me how many players have you seen hitting sixes over covers. The great Viv Richards use to do that on a regualr basis, and Afridi in full flow does that too. Now please dont count Mark Greatbatch's nicks off of Wasim AKram that went for sixes over covers as Newzeland grounds we so small. Nevertheless Afridi can be compared to the best when in full flow.

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Umair is right.. tell me how many players have you seen hitting sixes over covers. The great Viv Richards use to do that on a regualr basis, and Afridi in full flow does that too. Now please dont count Mark Greatbatch's nicks off of Wasim AKram that went for sixes over covers as Newzeland grounds we so small. Nevertheless Afridi can be compared to the best when in full flow.
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You're right LH...but no point in explaining to Mo_Best....explaining something to him is the same thing as Bhens Ke Aagay Been Bajaana.

he's a great cricketing all-rounder....
definitely deserves to be there at the opening position for Pakistan....

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I think he is a star and a slogger. Somedays he is the biggest fool in the world but the next day he bats like the best batsman in the world.
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I totally agree with you....

2bor2not..interesting article...thanks for sharing

:nook: :nook: :nook: sorry, not good enough for our national side.

He's a slogger - but he's also a fierce competitor, a very useful bowler and a great team man so it's not easy to leave him out.

Best Batsman!!!

No slogger can ever be the best batsman in the world. Then, Klusener and Gilchrist also are the best! But i agree he can be a really gd bat if he puts his head down to it. He has timing, he has a great eye, has all the shots, and also has great power. But i doubt he will really develop his talent. Thats just the way our afridi bhai is.

Javed really developed him when he was the coach. But this hotheaded spoiled hero of ours badmouthed him. I think he wont improve anytime soon because he wont work hard enough. Although if he does in the WC, what a major boost it is going to be.

:roman:

You cant be a classy slogger-its a contridiction in terms, he's a loser-he's ****e scared of fast bowling, cant play the moving ball and can only attack the spinners. He closes his eyes and takes a wild swing, edging the ball over the slip cordon now and then or launching a military medium Indian pacer over Extra Cover once in a blue moon-hardly classy stuff.

And to compare him to the legendary IVA Richards is just stupid, you make fools of yourselves with such a comparison. Afridi is entertaining, a gung-ho approach insures that, shame theres little substance to back his arrogance up. I saw him duck INTO a Gough bouncer, and he cant play square.

In summary this guy:

Cant play express pace
Cant hook/pull well
Cant play swing
Cant play the seaming ball
And tries to drive on the up-but lacks the timing, just ends up getting caught out.

He isn't a loser, he's got plenty of balls. He isn't scared of fast bowling either, simply not good enough to play against it. Afridi shots are pre-selected, he doesn't play the ball on it's merits. His shot selection is more like Russian Roulette - with a similar outcome. Afridi is just too dumb to play at international level, but lack of decent alternatives means he keeps getting more chances than he should.

First of all he isn't a loser and he's no damn afraid of fast bowler, if a person can't play a fast bowler doesn't mean he is afraid of him. What I like about Afridi is his confidence, even in losing situations his attitude is positive. If he can improve his cricket drastically he can someday be the captain of the team in the next 3 or 4 years.

So you both concede that he cant play at this level. :)

And he is afraid as hell, like Greame Hick-he turns his eyes of the ball, his back to it and just takes it on the helmet.

Mr Xtreme-read what you just wrote-you just described a pure loser wilst insisting that Shahid is not. :rotfl"

Mr X, you just lost my respect for your cricketing mental.

Remember Afridi's 141 in the second innings in India?. Pakistan won that match by 12 runs.

Mo,

a loser is someone who can't produce when it matters. Afridi is limited in his talents, but bravery and competitiveness he's never been short of. I wouldn't describe him as a loser at all.

fg,

yeah I remember that game. That's why I wouldn't call him a loser, but he's a front foot player so hitting fast bowlers will always be a problem in 1 dayers.