Afghanistan risks 'failed state' and its impact on Pakistan economy

Pakistanis must watch for the status of this sick-man of Asia called Afghanistan. Afghan troubles start with tribal rivalry, then the lack of strong army, and last not but least a long time negative approach towards its most helpful neighbor aka Pakistan.

Whatever Afghanis do, we must watch them, and make sure that we are ready if and when this state totally collapse.

One of the many option that Pakistan hasn’t explored so far is this. Pak army cannot remain bottled up in FATA. The real source of our troubles is the cancer of Afghan instability and tribal uncouthness. As long as that cancer is there, it will continue attracting Jihadi flies form over the world including FATA.

It is time that we let the Pak army get out of FATA, and attack the real source of Jihad, the Afghan south. This will achieve many objectives.

1- It will force the Jihadis to fight Pak army in Afghanistan and not in FATA.
2- It will also kick out the Indian consulates and BLA support centers from Afghanistan.
3- NATO countries cannot and will not send more troops in Afghanistan, so they will greatly help the manpower of the Pak army.
4- Once the Southern Afghanistan is secure, we can establish road, pipeline, and electric grids direct to Turkmenistan.
5- This will greatly improve the economy of Balochistan and Southern Afghanistan, ultimately helping Pakistan.

Pakistan must thing out of the box (or FATA) policies to deal with Afghan cancer.

**Afghanistan risks ‘failed state’ **
Afghanistan risks turning into a failed state and becoming a forgotten war, a study led by a US diplomatic and military team has concluded.

The study by former UN ambassador Thomas Pickering and retired Marine Corps General James Jones is due to be released later on Wednesday.
One of its recommendations is for more Nato troops to be sent to Afghanistan, the AP news agency reports.
The Taleban have mounted a comeback in Afghanistan over the past two years.
The south of the country has seen the worst violence since the Taleban were thrown out of power in the US-led invasion of 2001.
** ‘Mounting challenge’ **
“Afghanistan stands at a crossroads,” says the study which has been seen by AP.
“The progress achieved after six years of international engagement is under serious threat from resurgent violence, weakening international resolve, mounting regional challenges and a growing lack of confidence on the part of the Afghan people about the future direction of their country,” it says.
The study also recommends the appointment of a US special envoy, and for Washington’s Afghan policy to be decoupled from its Iraqi one.
Democrats in the US Congress have long argued that the Bush administration has failed to contain terrorism in Afghanistan by diverting resources to Iraq.
The Nato-led force has almost 37,000 troops in Afghanistan.

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Re: Afghanistan risks 'failed state' and its impact on Pakistan economy

One solution: Seal the darn border!

Once that is done then no matter what happens to Afghanistan it will have negligible effects on Pakistan. If Afghanistan fails and border is not sealed then we will have huge influx of Afghanis coming to Pakistan and this time they will be more in number than 1980s which will crumble Pakistan has our infrastructure is not able to support existing population.

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Actually that is not true. Here is an example for you. If your neighbor's house catches fire, then no matter how high is the dividing wall, the fire would reach your house too.

So you should do what any rational human being would, that is get your fire extinguisher and try to fight the fire in your neighbor's house BEFORE IT REACHES YOURS.

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By sealing the border, you are effectively raising your wall high enough that ensures your house's safety :)

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people live on the border and part of their rights are that they come and go freely as they want too. they have relations living on both side so the idiotic policy to seal the damn border would be detrimental to these people - i am sure you would not like it if your family was forcefully divided.

it simply does not make sense that people like you dictate what should happen up there.

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erm the one thing that would provide pakistan with a bit of peace and quiet is non-interference in afghanistan's affairs. it is this interference in afghanistan's affairs that has caused all this militancy in pakistan.

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It looks good on paper, but in reality a burning house next door means your house is a gonner too.

Yes sealing the border is not acceptable, but Pakistan and Afghanistan must police their border.

The argument in your post has long been used by some to support weapon smuggles, drug peddlers, and poppy growers.

In reality a border is a border. You must respect it by using well established points of entry and exit. There should be a record on who comes and who goes, and more importantly who stays.

Country's borders are just like your house's borders. You must setup rules for entry in your house, otherwise you'll have people walking through your bathroom while you are taking a shower (or worse while you are sitting on that seat).

People who live on the border, they can always come, but their names should be entered in record, and they must carry proper documents.

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TJ bro!

Read the other posts firsts. Afghanistan is burning, and we are the one with enough power to send in the firefighters. We should extinguish Afghan fire completely and bring peace to this gadawful place.

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India was divided, thousands of families were split. If we can live that then why do we have a problem forcing border control on this side? Especially when we have such a grave security issue that amongst civilians there is big movement of militants disrupting lives of civilians on both sides. If we cannot do that then we should be okay losing lives of our civilians, military etc.

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yes and pakistan is a bed of roses. afghanistan cant get worsethan it has already seen. it did nt have much but lost everything but their national unity. pakistan has much more yet any trouble comes along and the first thing in question is national unity!

aghanistan is not sending any fighters. afghanistan is accusing pakistan of sending fighters intoafghanistan and the USA backs this. if anything pakistan has inflamed the fires in afghanistan and it always will do so because of the "pashtunistan" issue - which is almost a dead issue within pakistan yet the establishment still fear it.

would you support indian invasions of punjab abd ajk just because they felt it was in their interests? pakistan should withdraw from interference in afghanistan. pakistan should focus whats going on its own borders not play about in other peoples gardens. its these policies which are back-firing 20 years later.

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i am not sure but was nt part of the agreement that these areas are semi-autonomous and the peoples basic right be that they can come and go as they please? they cant man every metre of this border and fences and walls can be destroyed too.

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I am sure they had an agreement of not supporting anti-state elements, not working against the state.

As for border security, if plain barbed wire is not going to cut it then some areas should be "mined" while some should be "manned".

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Were you sleeping the whole century when the awghan commies were in cahoots with ruskies??? :hehe:

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Wow
thats so unlike muslim brother-hood.

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Like awghools have given us any ishlamuc braadarhood! :hehe:

You gotta visit some awghan sites and find out their islamic braadarhood there. Or maybe you will fit in there since you love these awghools sooo much!

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^so you try to keep up with A-Holes rather than good ppl???

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Momin doesn't get bitten twice.. Remember something like that? :)

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Huh?

Bro! Just recognize that a Muslim brother is on his death bed, then try to give him some medicine appropriate for his ailment. Afghanistan is suffering from tribalism, religious fanaticism, and abject poverty. Pakistanis cannot and should not limit themselves to their side of the border. Afghans don't recognize the border so they shouldn' have a problem if Pak army cleans up Kandhar. You will see that after Kandhar is cleansed of this Jihadi cancer, Pakistani FATAns will recover from their fascistic diseases as well.

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^ Pakistani army should not involve itself in a thankless situation. Pakistani ISI needs a good proactive policy in Afghanistan where we have allies that can be used to neuter anti-Pak elementS!

Not even their own awghool kings have even succeeded in CIVILIZING the tribals!

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people supporting landmines should be forced to live amongst them and see how long they would survive or their kids. maybe you should reading up on the affects they can have.

no wonder pakistan is in a mess when people starts believing inhumanity and injustice solves everything.

FYI - most of the clever people know it only costs a few hundred ruppees to bribe a pakistani border guard and other police you meet on the way to cross the border.

it is about time both pakistan and afghanistan stopped interfering with each other - that would go along way.