how about you also post a video of a hillbilly punk get fried on an electric chair and then we see which method of execution is more painful and barbaric. Have u seen this video.It was all over under 1 sec. Death by electrocution takes atleast 30 seconds so according to this texas law makers are 30 times more barbaric and primitive than these talibans.
how about stoning,cutting hands or throat?
Re: Afghan war is war on Islam: UK PM advisor
Have you seen what's happening in Thailand? Do you think government is allowing demonstrations there? Do you think there is violence in Afghanistan because government allows demonstrations?
Yes, Saudis do bow to the king and the kingdom. If you disagree then let us know your references. How can you say that all salafis in Saudi Arab are against the king?
Have you seen what's happening in Thailand? Do you think government is allowing demonstrations there? Do you think there is violence in Afghanistan because government allows demonstrations? Yes, Saudis do bow to the king and the kingdom. If you disagree then let us know your references.** How can you say that all salafis in Saudi Arab are against the king?**
Never said such a thing. All I said was against your allegations that ALL Salafis are gainst Taliban. And not all people in Saudia are salafis. And not all salafis are with the king.
Re: Afghan war is war on Islam: UK PM advisor
cricketp:
I can’t speak for ALL Salafis, just like I can’t speak for ALL Muslims. I said salafi wahhabis in general do not support Taliban. There are always some exceptions, like Osama.
Look at the following video from Imam e Kaaba, Sheikh Sudais, making dua for Musharraf, Taliban’s enemy at 1:33.
http://www.desivideonetwork.com/view/150n18h02/sudais-make-dua-for-pakistani-taghut-musharraf/
Just like that, Shaykh Sudais does not speak for all Muslims. 
And afaik, Shaykh Sudais is Hanbali in fiqh (most salafis are lol yet they refuse to follow madhab). Where does he make dua against Afghan Taliban? I don’t get it, I’ve said countless number of times that Taliban is different than TTP and their affiliates, even Mohammad Umar said it himself. But to you they all the same. Shall I paint Pakistan army with the same brush as American army?
Certainly not according you guys.
Nice evasion. I take from it you are out of rational arguments.
How (not) surprising.
Just like that, Shaykh Sudais does not speak for all Muslims. :)
So who do you think speaks for all Muslims?
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Where does he make dua against Afghan Taliban? I don't get it,
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He makes dua for Musharraf, an enemy of Taliban.
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I've said countless number of times that Taliban is different than TTP and their affiliates, even Mohammad Umar said it himself.
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Why does Mullah Omar's opinion matter? If Sheikh Sudais does not speak for all Muslims, if hundreds of other Salafi/ Sunni/ Shia/ Barelvi/ Deobandi ulema don't speak for all Muslims then why does Mullah Omar matter so much?
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Shall I paint Pakistan army with the same brush as American army?
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You don't have to. We already know what you think about it. Not just Pakistan army but about Pakistan itself. Actually, you people are not just against Pakistan today but you did your very best to ensure that Pakistan does not come into being in the first place.
1- The Ulema-e-Haq should be speaking out for the Muslims, lately there none except for few.. (the few either end up getting shot or put in jail)
2- Dua for musharaf or king faisal. Does it matter? We all know Mush is a criminal just like Bush.
3- Did I say Mullah Omar speaks for all Muslims? 
All I said was his comments about the supposed TTP connection. You love to put words in my mouth don’t you..!
4- So there’s no point in continuing discussing since you already know where I come from and where I stand..? Is that it? Assumptions just because I don’t agree with your political views? Good, then don’t ask questions if you have your mind made up. :k:
That lady was guilty of murdering her husband. So..unh…better than what?
That lady was guilty of murdering her husband. So..unh...better than what?
were you the shooter or it's a revelation directly from one-eye gay mullah omar?
Thank you for bolding it out. The war against "Islamism" is not the same as the war against Islam. Islamism is a political movement that uses the religion of Islam as a tool toward its political ends.
Islam does not distinguish between profane and profound. Thus, simple slogans like "Islamism" do nothing for those who accept states like contemporary Pakistan, which is by no means secular and by all means a state which recognizes religion in politics to some degree. Is that "islamist"?
Without any clear cut distinction between Islamist and Islam defined for our consideration, there's no real reason to take the term "Isalmism" seriously. Other than, say, an artifact of whatever notions of political correctness are left with regards to Islam. Perhaps it is even evidence of the West's inability or unwillingness to declare the exact secular equivalent of what most westerners would call a holy war...
If the General is suggesting that Muslims have no choice but to accept a secular polity even within Muslim lands like Afghanistan, then we are in fact in a state of war...and no, it's not the Muslims who started it if such is the case...it's by the very virtue of the West's intolerance for non-secular regimes. So the war is because of an aspect of Muslim belief that we consider rather salient...
Second, why is democracy and absurdist notions of "freedom" immune from being labeled as a "dominatrix" ideology...after all, it was the cited reason why the Americans invaded Iraq...hmmm...democracy being spread by the sword is all fine and dandy?
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For the anti-Zionists out there, just back off. Zionism is not a religious ideology and is not based of any fictitious Judaist supremacy ideas that anti-Zionists and anti-Semites are so fond of.
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Yes, but if you buy the cant on political Islam, or rather Islam in politics in general, then you have no reason to expect any understanding in return...no?
were you the shooter or it's a revelation directly from one-eye gay mullah omar?
And you know Mullah omar is gay, because....?
I know this because I haven't been hiding under a rock for the past 15 years...but I suppose that covers your entire lifetime, so I won't hold it against you....
Re: Afghan war is war on Islam: UK PM advisor
West being barbaric doesn't give Taliban a license to kill innocent people.
Taliban being barbaric doesn't give West a license to kill innocent people.
Re: Afghan war is war on Islam: UK PM advisor
SHARIAT IS THE BEST SOLOUTION FOR HUMANIY WESTERN DEMOCRACY IS BULL**** ITS NOT GOING TO SOLVE ANYONES PROMBLEMS IT HAS EVEN STARTED TO FAIL IN WEST
Re: Afghan war is war on Islam: UK PM advisor
MR MAD SCIENTIST EVERY ONE AT THE TIME OF PROPHET(S.A.W) HAD THE BEARD AND AT THE TIME WHEN PROPHET(S.A.W) ESTABLISHED HIS GOVERMENT IN MADINA NOT A SINGLE WOMEN USE TO COME OUT OF HOUSE WITHOUT PROPERLY AND FULLY COVERED SIR I HIGHLY RECMONED U TO HAVE A DETAILED STUDY OF ISLAM
Beating women for not covering the face is following the example of RasoolAllah (pbuh)?
Beating men for not having a beard is following the example of RasoolAllah (pbuh)?
The massacre of Shia Muslims following the capture of Mazar-i-Sharif was following the example of RasoolAllah (pbuh)?
Forbidding educational establishments for girls was following the example of the RasoolAllah (pbuh) ?
yes, it is. of the examples you have highlighted, and from my limitted knowledge of the context of what happend in afghanistan and why, and how much etc etc,
they set out to implement shariah, its a different system of law. not a nearly complete shariah, neither a almost fully compliant shariah, but a fully compliant shariah. these shariah laws were accepted in pakistan prior to 911
MR MAD SCIENTIST EVERY ONE AT THE TIME OF PROPHET(S.A.W) HAD THE BEARD AND AT THE TIME WHEN PROPHET(S.A.W) ESTABLISHED HIS GOVERMENT IN MADINA NOT A SINGLE WOMEN USE TO COME OUT OF HOUSE WITHOUT PROPERLY AND FULLY COVERED SIR I HIGHLY RECMONED U TO HAVE A DETAILED STUDY OF ISLAM
well said
its time for the liberals to admit which system they represent
:k: Truth is bitter for some and sweet for the believers!
how about stoning,cutting hands or throat?
not a big deal.when there were no guns,electric chairs,gas chambers and injections execution was carried out throughout the world in this manner,in all cultures and religions.
Head chopping used to take place in france uptill 1970's and it was still the center of fashion industry and represented the so called free world where women like mr sarkozys wife could freely have naked photoshoots.
MR MAD SCIENTIST EVERY ONE AT THE TIME OF PROPHET(S.A.W) HAD THE BEARD AND AT THE TIME WHEN PROPHET(S.A.W) ESTABLISHED HIS GOVERMENT IN MADINA NOT A SINGLE WOMEN USE TO COME OUT OF HOUSE WITHOUT PROPERLY AND FULLY COVERED SIR I HIGHLY RECMONED U TO HAVE A DETAILED STUDY OF ISLAM
Yes and they did that of their own free will, no one forced them to, no one forced that government on them. The people running the islamic government back then were of very high moral standards. Sadly the only shariah representatives we have today are narrow minded-mullahs and cavemen who blow up every now and then.
You cant force (true) shariah on the people, it will only come if the people vote it in themselves. The people of Pakistan want islamic law, but dont want to be ruled by these mullahs and talibs and their version on islam.