Afghan Christian convert could face death

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^ Yes it is hypocrisy !
We must avoid this

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Why not think logically, respecting other's choices so they respect your choice.

Faith to me is very personel issue. Hou have a right to choose whatever you want, but keep it in mind that the other should get this chance as well.

If the person wants to change his religion it's his choice who are you or me to say he is going to die in hell.

I don't know about you but I can definetely not see the future.

And yes have faith and believe in Allah that, that person will get what he deserve. no more no less.

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You can't leave and come back to Islam, once you leave thats it. And under Sharia Law he should be killed.

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If above is right than feeling that Islam is militant and hardline relgion with no space for any other religion is true. As well Islam is heading for headon clash with other peopls is also true......

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Please provide evidence from quran and sunnah in support of your claim :flower1:

Otherwise stay quite, instead of spreading blunt ignorance regarding major world religon.

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Isn't God supposed to be one for all n that?

QUIT arguing in the name of God already.

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Religion should not be forced down anyone's throat. In Islam (same as Christianity) the theology is clear: if you choose wrong, there will be consequences. The Almighty God indicated that He will take action in the afterlife. In this life everyone has till his last breath to choose the correct path.

I think any person that kill another because s/he is not of the same religion has a serious inferiority complex. If people want to change from the "correct" religion, God will deal with them. Christianity used to also be so intolerant during the dark middle ages.

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Oh yes, if people do change from the "correct" religion, God won't grant them Jannat, and God alone knows what else will be in store for them in the after life.

Ill tell u what, God won't do a thing to them just like he won't do a thing to the followers of correct and wrong religions, cos frankly Im sure even God must be fed up.

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if god want us to follow one religen he could have proggrammed our brain instead of issuing threats.

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Perhaps it's best just to agree to disagree...'cause the way I read this, is that you're telling us the Quran is a load of B.S.

Not quite the message one would expect from those who exhort religious tolerance...

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Here's a country with rapist ******* 'Muslims' (to use the term loosely) like Dostum running around, and this is the high-priority target for execution?

Yeah, priority problem folks...

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Oh well I din't mean nething disrespectful towards the Koran. I din't even have the Koran in mind. As for the exhorting religious tolerance bit, I do believe God is one for all us, it's just our paths to reach him that differ. So surely God must be a bit put off by all this fighting that goes on in his name. Read what I wrote carefully, the part that you quoted and ul see that's exactly what I meant.

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I agree, so very convenient to murder a guy cos he switches his religion, but not the guys who violate the very tenets of the religion.

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I find it very hypocritical that there are Muslims that on one end complain about ill treatment in the west and demand the right to have equal representation, rights to freedom in speech and religion and at the same time support such capital punishment laws. It is shameful and much more damaging to the view of Islam than any Fox news reporter. Now, that being said;

The Old Man,

There is no punishment for apostasy in Islam. Islam believes in freedom of religion and freedom of conscious. In Quran it is stated that there is no compulsion in religion [2:256], and in another verse it is stated that there are people who believe and then disbelieve and then start believing again then go back to disbelieving .. [4:137], but one must ask if there was a capital punishment in Islam, they wouldn’t be able to swing through this door more than once.

Then it becomes a valid question that why such rules and laws are so common among Muslim countries and is often justified by the public. I personally believe that part of it has to do with atmosphere of intolerance; secondly just like in western countries calling some unpatriotic is the best way to discredit them and can carry serious charges such as treason whereby they can get capital punishment; similarly calling some an apostate is another way to shut them up in Muslim countries. Many Muslim rulers from the very beginning used similar laws to persecute whoever went against them. Though it is not something very particular to Muslims, early Christian rulers did the same to non-Christians and Jesus (as) himself was crucified on charges of Blasphemy, which in essence is another charge like apostasy.

You might be interested in reading the book, Murder in the Name of Allah and in particular Chapter 7 that talks about the Punishment of Apostasy

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it says do not harm them unless they harm u :)... and i think disrespecting a religion is same as harming ... isnt it?

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Dear... it is ur religion (Simple example, you love ur own kids more then ur neighbor's kids even though both of them are kids) so same here.. U love ur religion more then others religion.. You get happy if ur someone accepts ur religion and on the other hand u get sad if someone leaves ur religion... Every one wants others to accept their religion.. It is happening everywhere, wouldn't u get happy if a friend of urs accept islam.. while ur own brother converts to christanity? What will u do that moment? what are going to be ur reactions?

and to answer ur second post: Using gang would be a very bad choice.. because islam means peace not gang or something.. so ofcourse anyone leaving peace will face hardness and suffer :)

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There should be no coercion in the matter of faith." (2:256)

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We're hypocritical, and so is the west. Let's get over that.

Fact is, we Muslims are in a state where we really have to be self-interested in the most extreme form. So, really, we should do all we can for ourselves.

Frankly, everyone wants to progress the values/ideologies they subscribe to, with little or no concern for the competition. That's just how it works..

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Read my first post ... i said that person is already going to hell , so wat is the point of making him suffer right now.....
I think in islam it teaches us about every single thing. giving others choices, living on ur own choices.. so i don't think we need to go outside of faith in order to get an answer while our own religion gives u all the answers..

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Then u might also ask why he allowed shaitan? Why is there day and night, why not all night? why is there different types of bird? ...
abay did u ever read quran? Please do and u will get ur answer with tafseer though :)