Adoption in Islam [split from "Would you consent to being a Broodmare]

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They can adopt, they can have a surrogate mother..

nope nope nope!

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Re: Would You Consent to being a Brood-Mare ?

yeh it is then why are you complaining.

I dont think adoption is preferrd in Islam. Mybe thats why the second marriage avenue.

Waise the old-saying goes..apna khoon apna hota hai

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Re: Would You Consent to being a Brood-Mare ?

I think Broodmare is a totally different concept than having second wife. As being in Islamic society the 2nd wife should have equality in every aspect of a married life. If someone guarantees that than I think its woman's discretion to decide if she wants to be in such a role or not.

As for the adoption, Islamically the children you adopt are not same as your own children. The are like friends to you. Similarly the rules of inheritance also don't apply on them. But I won't say that adoption is wrong, rather its a good deed to provide a good life to a child.

So broodmare is not allowed and one shouldn't do that. But if a man wants to have a child than its totally up to the woman if she can provide him for that in return of love, care and security.

Timepass - June 2013
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Re: Would You Consent to being a Brood-Mare ?

adoption is allowed in Islam, you just have to feed the adopted baby with the milk of a mehram lady of that family so the kid after growing up, does not become na mehram for the mother or the father (depending upon the gender of the kid)

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I have heard of this several times. However if the lady adopting is not pregnant, how would she have milk to feed the baby with?

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That is why I said "milk of a mehram lady of that family". After adoption, while the baby is still young, that baby's phuppi, khala, chachi, mami can also feed the baby. The thing is, that will make the baby mehram for adopted parents but still na-mehram for the real kids of the same parents. But then if the parents have real kids, there is a little need for adoption..

I know its a tricky situation, but there are ways around it with in Islam.

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A woman can take medication that will induce lactation.

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U can get pills nowadays to induce lactation (they trick ur body into thinking ur pregnant)..

^* sorry Amana didn't see ur post lol*

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If people only knew how to use google correctly for research...

LEGAL ADOPTION IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED IN ISLAM.

You can help the poor as much as you want, Islam encourages this but you can not give your name to that child due to many logical problems like:

  1. Inheritance issues (Adopted child Islamically has no right on the inheritence)
  2. If you are blessed with your own child after the adoption, your own child will have more attention (only human)
  3. In the case of adopting a girl, A man is making that women haram on himself when Allah has made her halal for that man
  4. Opposite sex adopted children can not live with na-mehram in the same house without hijab etc., father becomes na-mehram for adopted girl when she grows up...
  5. Our Prophet Mohammad (SA, PBUH) practically shown us by ordeing his pre-prohibition adopted son to divorce his wife and later marrying his x-wife.
  6. etc. etc.
Advice of a Mother to her daughter who use net 24/7
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he never mentioned anything about legally adopting. apoption is just a terminology ppl tend to use in this day in age...I guess if you want you can call it "raising an orphan" for clarification purposes.

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You are funny. The whole conversation is based on Adoption meaning having a child in the house and growing him/her as your own...because you can't have your own children...

I know you are supposed to suck up to your master but don't make a fool of yourself in doing that....;)

RC

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adoption topic comes up many times but people get stuck in semantics.

one can look at adoption as a couple raising some child and presenting as own, or you can look at as some sort of guardianship or foster care where the child and community knows that the child is not your biological child.

There are conditions established, e.g. inheritance laws, however the guardians can give the child in their care any gift of any monetary value in life or upon death. similarly, the child is a namehram, however nursing the child addresses many of those issues. It is not required though.

anyways..teh end result is that a child who is biologically unrelated to some people is living in their house in their care. and I would think that the prophet would know better than anyone on this site whether or not that is recommended so let me quote him. *The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “The best house of Muslims is one where an orphan is cared for.” *

below is a link from an islamic website on the religious views on adoption/fostercare and the conditions which exist. The quote I referenced is listed there.

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Re: Would You Consent to being a Brood-Mare ?

if someone is happy by adopting a child... if that completes them.. and a child has a home to go to, parents that love him/her... why do people get so bogged down?! let God be the judge of things... simple

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Re: Would You Consent to being a Brood-Mare ?

sadzzz, "people"..are stealth. Thats basically it.

anyways, I can speak to the topic from personal experience. my wife can not have kids anymore, so we brought two kids in our home and our life.

I do understand that I have the ability to remarry to have kids but if the shoe was on the other foot and my wife wanted to leave me if I could not have kids, how would I feel?

she gave me 2 beautiful babies, sadly their lives were very short in this world. She almost died in the process. I could not go for someone else because she can not have children now. To me she is the love of my life and the mother of my children, whether they are with us or not. She is also a wonderful mother to 2 pidoos we brought into our lives and who have enriched our lives so much.

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Re: Would You Consent to being a Brood-Mare ?

after googling "stealth", i agree

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May Allah bless you and your family. I hope Allah gives many people the strength to learn from your example.

Timepass - June 2013
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This was so touching!

When you get married you are two different people trying to live your life together, therefore, you make sacrifices for one another. And not many couples put the shoe on the other foot. You should not blindly use your rights in Islam, but think on how this will effect your future and your partner. Out of all the freedom and rights which Allah has given a wife/husband he also tells us to use some common sense.

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Having no knowledge on the issue is better then having partial knowledge...

Common "People" are stealth. No denying in that but that's a design feature don't make sound like a bug. This is one of the reason why Allah Taa'la created a flawless system of "SAZA and JAZA".

Plus being stealth is lot better then ADVERTISING your un-Islamic practices and then quoting prophet Mohammad (SA, PBUH) to justify them without having the full grasp of the subject matter...(sounds like a trait of a traditional common Mullah of a corner mosque in pakistan).

You are not alone, we lost 5 children, 4 in still-birth and miscarriages and one in an accident when he was few months old before Allah Taa'lah blessed us with 3 most beautiful angels. Sad but common in life.

Adoption has nothing to do with what you quoted above. If you take what Prophet Mohammad (SA, PBUH) said as an example or permission of adoption in Islam, it would be a direct conflict with what Allah said in Quran (reference follows) and prophet Mohammad (SA, PBUH) never said anything that conflicts with Quran. He (SA, PBUH) was mistake free, his sayings were error free. PERIOD.

According to the Quran, one cannot become a person's real son merely by virtue of a declaration; Allaah Says (what means):

"...And He * has not made your claimed * sons your [true] sons. That is [merely] your saying by your mouths, but Allaah says the truth, and He guides to the [right] way. Call them * by [the names of] their fathers; it is more just in the sight of Allaah. But if you do not know their fathers, they are your brothers in religion…" [Quran 33: 4-5]

This shows that the declaration of adoption does not change realities, alter facts, or make a stranger a relative, or an adopted child a son or daughter. A mere verbal expression or figure of speech cannot make the blood of a man run through the veins of the adopted child, produce natural feelings of affection found in normal parent-child relationships, or transfer the genetic characteristics, or physical, mental, or psychological traits.
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By adopting someone's child as one's own, the rightful and deserving heirs to the property of a man are deprived of their shares. Hence, Islam has made it Haraam (forbidden) for a father to deprive his natural children of inheritance. Allaah has established the distribution of inheritance in order to give each eligible person his or her share. In matters of inheritance, the Quran does not recognise any claim except those based on relationship through blood and marriage. The Quran stipulates (what means):

"And those who believed after [the initial emigration] and emigrated and fought with you – they are of you. But those of [blood] relationship are more entitled [to inheritance] in the decree of Allaah. Indeed, Allaah is knowing of all things." [Quran 8:75]

There are also numerous Quranic verses that support the act of taking care of orphans and enough cannot be said about how pleased Allaah is with this noble and charitable act, see: [Quran: 2:220; 4:2; 4:6; 4:10; 4:127; 17:34]

Taking care of orphans is a completely different form of adoption, which is not prohibited by Islam - that is, when a man brings home an orphan and wants to raise, educate, and treat him as his own child. In this case, he protects, feeds, clothes, teaches, and loves the child as his own without attributing the child to himself, nor does he give him or her the rights which the Sharee'ah (Islamic Law) reserves for his natural children.

This is a meritorious and noteworthy act in Islam, and the man who does it will be rewarded by being admitted to Paradise. Prophet Muhammad once said: "I and the one who raises an orphan, will be like these two in Paradise (and he pointed his middle and index fingers)"

RC*

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nice one dd

people may have right intentions but they should still be made aware of the allowed and non-allowed means to reach them.

any islamic banning or allowance is purely for the benefit or prevention of future damage for the man who the law is imposed on not for the benefit of Allah.

Sometimes we may not be able to understand the wisdom of the law because of lack of knwoledge but it doesnt mean we ignore it.

As often in life we only learn why we shouldnt have done somthing when we incure the damage from it...i.e we learn from our mistakes.

as the saying goes:

'a common person learns from his mistakes, a wise man learns from those of others'

Islam tells you what to do before you make the mistake..By trusting Allah.

There are always real-life eamples of what happnes when you trangress any limits of Allahs.
One go do thier own research on adopted the adopted children to see what they are.

I dont know exactly yet if adoption is haraam,

but I still have symphaty for those who like adopting because to be cos i still like it.
i.e the wisdom of the Islamic stance on it is kind of beyond my knoweldge too.

May Allah grant us all healthy marriages and Good Children.

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Re: Would You Consent to being a Brood-Mare ?

i dont know about islamic rulings on it, but imho, adoption is a very noble deed. to cry about inheritance as a reason to deny an orphan a chance at a loving childhood strikes me as petty. especially in cases where the parents are sure not to have any kids of their own.

and pindi, why the hell are you a mullah in topics that dont concern you (adoption, homosexuality) and a chichora in macking threads?