Adopting Earthquake Orphans

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I don't think it would be any more difficult/easier than regular international adoptions...which can take up to a year just to get the paperwork in the US completed BEFORE you get to the country and get the child.

I heard that edhi stopped doing international adoptions....

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edhi did not stop doing international adoptions, we know of someone who adopted via edhi just recently. the preferance for edhi is for overseas pakistanis anyways based on a better opportunity for the placed kid.

it is the same as doing regular overseas adoptions except for the issue where the immigration has to accept pakistani court's grant of "guardianship" as that of "adoption" so courts have to specifically allow the child to be adopted overseas and to be removed from the country.

Please note that its likely that adoptions are suspended for the children who came from the disaster hit areas because their next of kin may be alive and orphanages and any shelters may wait for sometime until they are certain that the kid has no one left before making them available for adoption.

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US govt info on international adoption from Pakistan

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Fostering orphaned children is very highly highly encouraged in Islam and is a very good deed but you’re not allowed to adopt them in the sense that you pretend they are your own kids, they keep their own fathers name, they can marry your kids if you didn’t breast feed them and they don’t automatically inherit anything (can someone please confirm this last bit because I might be wrong).

I know what you mean though, it’s heart wrenching to see Muslim children being bought up as Non-Muslims, when I was ten I saw a documentary about a single American man who adopted two Afghan girls and a boy and he’d take them to nudist/topless beaches in bikinis, God I still get sad/angry when I remember that, I appreciate the Kaafir dude trying to give a home and a decent life to those Muslim kids but he was a bit insensitive towards their cultural/religious background.

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Well can u blame em? Muslims rnt adopting these mUslim kids and nonMuslims are. U really think they shud stay orphans coz noones willing to adopt them coz they think adoption is haram? :rolleyes:

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surely they wouldnt let a non muslim adopt a muslim child?????

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^ I don't know if they do allow it or not.

Remember, its Pakistani organizations that are handing the children over, and looking for family matches, not the US government itself.

So I don't know how they handle religion issues when they're looking for families. Probably the lawyers involved know more about it.

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you could always try going with www.Plan.org

im sponsoring two children at the moment with Plan... it might not be the same as adoption, but any lil bit helps..

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:eek:
Is this all really true?
I mean, legally won’t we have to give it our name…and won’t the child feel like an outsider to our family if he doesn’t have the same surname? Me and my fiance are planning to adopt probably for our second child as this is something i’ve always wanted to do, and of course we would tell the child when he is old enough to understand, that he was adopted and about his biological parents…hmmm, “the orphan must be given even more care than your children…” wow, i thought a child is a child…whether it’s my child or my neighbour’s, my brother’s or an orphan…aren’t we supposed to be treating everyone (even children) equally? And does Islam really say that orphans have more rights than ur own (blood) children; i was thinking all kids deserve the same love, care, attention and equal rights as others…but i wud love to know wot Islam really says about this, as i am trying to learn more about Islam and the adoption questions are important for me to find out…i wud appreciate valid answers from any of u with knowledge of this.

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I just heard from my BIL that Pak is setting up an agency for adopting kids from the earthquake. If I find out more information then I'll post it here.

I hope they set up the sponsoring program soon!

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thanks paki boy. This is definitely helpful for us who cannot currently adopt but can take the initiative to sponsor children. Jazakallah kharain

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Kashmiri Raindrops - don't believe him unless he shows you Quranic ayahs, and legitimate Hadith's - of which I would cross check with a local aalim that you might know, as well as look up commentary in literature.

People here assume that these guys are aalims. They're not.

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Don't know if someone told it or not

Govt of Pakistan has not allowed any adoption of quake victim (children).

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You mean international adoption? Or they're saying for the time being there will be no adoption until they figure out who is dead and who isn't.

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PCG it has to be the latter one, although since it may be hard for them to distinguish other orphans from these ones, they may temporarily suspend international adoptions until things clear a bit.

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PyariCgudia True, but i don’t know any aalims…sorry but i’m not even sure wot an aalim is; are they like Islamic scholars or molivis’ or something? Anyway, thanks for the warning haha, but as long as majority of ppl are saying that this or that way is the Islamic way i guess i can go by that…i don’t expect anyone to post references from the Quran, but if they cud that wud be nice…but i’m thinking wot Lajawab said is untrue as i talked to some ppl and they agreed with me cos Islam is very loving towards children and orphaned ones especially…and then at Sehri i was watching some show on Geo TV, and they were discussing adoptions and there was some “Islamic person” (don’t know correct term) answering the questions…basically, he said also that Islam encourages adopting orphans but sadly, he did mention that we cudn’t give them our name :confused:…but perhaps they r referring to local adoptions (in Pakistan) cos i’m thinking it’s really difficult to adopt a kid in Europe or U.S.A without them having ur name…I duno but i think it shud be allowed cos it’s better than leaving an orphan alone yea :blush:

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And i know this thread is about adopting but i see some have mentioned sponsorship...it's a wonderful thing to do if u can't adopt, like someone said "the next best thing"...i have been sponsoring a little boy in Chile since i was 17 yrs old (6 yrs now) with Children International and it has been very rewarding for me personally...Now that this disaster has happened in Kashmir, i feel very strongly about sponsoring a child from there, and so my Mum and i will split the cost of that sponsorship as i cannot afford to sponsor 2 kids at the moment...there are reliable sponsorship programs out there, they do have their own costs but most of the money does go to the child...so i think it's better than doing nothing, and great for ppl who can't adopt cos of financial reasons or becos they're single or wotever :)

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Gov't has announced that no child at the present time can be adopted. The reasoning makes sense: no one still knows details on survivors and casualities so letting someone in the UK/US adopt a child now and having his or her aunt or uncle turn up two months later will just create more of a mess.

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Oh bhai, Islam also says follow the law of the land you're living in. You're not living in an Islamic society to begin with, so if giving your name to your adopted child is your only option, then you have to go with that. There is no law that says that you must decieve the child about their biological origins, though.

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Islamic Relief Ramadan 2005 Orphan Drive is now on