I was watching a programme on BBC about a muslim woman who as adopting a baby from an orphanage in Karachi.
The programme follows Saira and her husband Steve through the adoption process in the UK and then through their journey to Pakistan.
They adopt a baby girl that was abandoned at an orphanage in Karachi, and follows them through the difficulties they go through with the whole process.
My question is; whether you would consider adoption a child from abroad?
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Topic already covered. Additionally, I called the baby and the woman ugly and faced the wrath of a number of GS members :p
I think adopting from abroad is a great idea if the adoption process in your own county is too slow or something. (Although personally I don't like babies so I wouldn't adopt at all)
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Yeah my poor thread got locked before the programme even aired 
I thought it was a really interesting documentary.. I’d love to adopt one day, not really fussed from where.. My parents have this strange idea tho that you should only adopt if you can’t have kids naturally.. It’s irritating..
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My question is; whether you would consider adoption a child from abroad?
Yep...
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My cousin and her husband looked into it, (live in the US), however the costs for international adoption and all the immigutration issues associated with it put it out of the question for them, but I do know people who have successfully adopted children from Pakistan, India & Kosovo...I can think of nothing more noble and wonderful than adopting an orphan...from anywhere
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I'd definitely consider it
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**Muslims must be very careful in 'adopting' a child if they care for their religion. In Islam, there is NO such thing as adoption as we know it. you may bring in a child and take care of him/her but two things you can NOT do...islamically! they are:
*-your last name* [the child must retain his/her last name for his identity sake]
*-your inheritance* [the child is NOT entitled to any inheritance EXCEPT what you give on your own free will during your life time...you may can NOT include the adopted child in the will...this is to protect the rights of the chain of next of kins as defined in Islam.]**
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i know a person who adopt a child from Edhi Home, Karachi. The process was straight forward, they take him to NY.
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If I didn't have children I perhaps may have considered it but islamically there are lot's of things that we need to take into consideration , like if you later do have a child of your own then they are non mehram ( if opposite sex) to the adopted child so it would make things complicated. Alsi the things said by Khalil Khan above.
It is sad though to see these children in orphanages...my heart goes out to them.
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If I didn't have children I perhaps may have considered it but islamically there are lot's of things that we need to take into consideration , like if you later do have a child of your own then they are non mehram ( if opposite sex) to the adopted child so it would make things complicated. Alsi the things said by Khalil Khan above.
It is sad though to see these children in orphanages...my heart goes out to them.
*you have raised a very good point and it's absolutely correct. i really liked your point. *
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If I didn't have children I perhaps may have considered it but islamically there are lot's of things that we need to take into consideration , like if you later do have a child of your own then they are non mehram ( if opposite sex) to the adopted child so it would make things complicated. Alsi the things said by Khalil Khan above. It is sad though to see these children in orphanages...my heart goes out to them.
If you're the sort of person who is living in or ok with the joint family system where your kids are mingling with their cousins etc. really there is no difference in terms of the non mehram issue..
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**Muslims must be very careful in 'adopting' a child if they care for their religion. In Islam, there is NO such thing as adoption as we know it. you may bring in a child and take care of him/her but two things you can NOT do...islamically! they are:
*-your last name* [the child must retain his/her last name for his identity sake] *-your inheritance* [the child is NOT entitled to any inheritance EXCEPT what you give on your own free will during your life time...you may can NOT include the adopted child in the will...this is to protect the rights of the chain of next of kins as defined in Islam.]**
Sources please?
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If I didn't have children I perhaps may have considered it but islamically there are lot's of things that we need to take into consideration , like if you later do have a child of your own then they are non mehram ( if opposite sex) to the adopted child so it would make things complicated. Alsi the things said by Khalil Khan above. It is sad though to see these children in orphanages...my heart goes out to them.
If you have an ounce of Iman in Allah SWT, you would know that helping a child abandoned in in this cruel world will have MUCH, MUCH more weight in front of Allah SWT than the gunnah due to mehram issues (if there is any gunnah in this case which I highly doubt) will ever have.
God! What has happened to Muslims? Islam is not a religion of technicalities; its a religion of humanity! Allah SWT wants you to help your fellow creatures!
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Sources please?
i'm sorry i do NOT have 'ready' references...what i say is what i've learned from my deeniyaat teacher and my dad over the years.
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I adopted a child from Pakistan. There is nothing noble about adopting. It is nothing more than a desire to raise a child...indeed, I might even say it is selfish!
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I adopted a child from Pakistan. There is nothing noble about adopting. It is nothing more than a desire to raise a child...indeed, I might even say it is selfish!
You may not feel that you have done a noble deed, but I'm sure Allah SWT will reward you raising a child who had no one in this world. :)
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You may not feel that you have done a noble deed, but I'm sure Allah SWT will reward you raising a child who had no one in this world. :)
That may or may not be. Actually, I would appreciate a little appreciation from my son in the here and now, to tell the truth ;)...but he's a tweener...
Re: Adopting A Child from Abroad
**Muslims must be very careful in 'adopting' a child if they care for their religion. In Islam, there is NO such thing as adoption as we know it. you may bring in a child and take care of him/her but two things you can NOT do...islamically! they are:
*-your last name* [the child must retain his/her last name for his identity sake] *-your inheritance* [the child is NOT entitled to any inheritance EXCEPT what you give on your own free will during your life time...you may can NOT include the adopted child in the will...this is to protect the rights of the chain of next of kins as defined in Islam.]**
if its an abandoned child, which most are in orphanages, u don't know their last names. The issue with last name was because in those days there was no other real way to track lineage. perfectly okay to give them your last name, as long as you don't hide that they are not biologically yours.
as far as inheritance goes, the next of kins can give up their claim to inheritance in favor of the child.
As i have stated before on this forum, the reason and logic has to be seen. otherwise it will end up in situation like the one where an adopted/fostered/(whatever sanctioned term works about a couple raising a kid not related to them works, will use adopted here for simplicity sake) child was left alone because the couple who had brought her into their life died in a car crash. Since the little child had no claim islamically, the late father-figures siblings took over everything and booted her.
luckily, the friends of the deceased had more sense and compassions and she is being raised by one of the family friends of the people who had adopted her.
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If I didn't have children I perhaps may have considered it but islamically there are lot's of things that we need to take into consideration , like if you later do have a child of your own then they are non mehram ( if opposite sex) to the adopted child so it would make things complicated. Alsi the things said by Khalil Khan above. It is sad though to see these children in orphanages...my heart goes out to them.
if you nurse the adopted child, then later even if you have kids, there is no na-mehram thing between kids.
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how can you nurse a baby you never had, its not like you switch on a button and the milk comes running.