Actor Brook Shields Islamic linage

Brooke Shields comes from royalty; so do you
By Matt Crenson

The Associated Press

Brooke Shields: an impressive pedigree

Actress Brooke Shields has a pretty impressive pedigree; hanging on her family tree are Catherine de Medici and Lucrezia Borgia, Charlemagne and El Cid, William the Conqueror and King Harold, vanquished by William at the Battle of Hastings.

Shields also descends from five popes, a whole mess of early New England settlers and the royal houses of virtually every European country. She counts Renaissance pundit Niccolò Machiavelli and conquistador Hernando Cortés as ancestors.

What is it about Brooke? Well, nothing, at least genealogically.

Even without a documented connection to a notable forebear, experts say the odds are virtually 100 percent that every person on Earth is descended from one royal personage or another.

“Millions of people have provable descents from medieval monarchs,” said Mark Humphrys, a genealogy enthusiast and professor of computer science at Dublin City University in Ireland.

By the same token, for every king in a person’s family tree there are thousands and thousands of nobodies.

It works the other way, too. Anybody who had children more than a few hundred years ago is likely to have millions of descendants today, and quite a few famous ones.

Take King Edward III, who ruled England during the 14th century and had nine children who survived to adulthood. Among his documented descendants are presidents (George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy Adams, Zachary Taylor, both Roosevelts), authors (Jane Austen, Lord Byron, Alfred Lord Tennyson, Elizabeth Barrett Browning), generals (Robert E. Lee), scientists (Charles Darwin) and actors (Humphrey Bogart, Audrey Hepburn, Brooke Shields). Some experts estimate that 80 percent of England’s present population descends from Edward III.

The longer ago somebody lived, the more descendants a person is likely to have today. Humphrys estimates that Muhammad, the founder of Islam, appears on the family tree of every person in the Western world.

Some have tried to establish a line between Muhammad, who was born in the sixth century, and the medieval English monarchs, and thus to most if not all people of European descent. Nobody has succeeded, but one proposed lineage comes close.

The proposed genealogy runs through Muhammad’s daughter Fatima. Her husband, Ali, also a cousin of Muhammad, is considered by Shiite Muslims the legitimate heir to leadership of Islam.

Ali and Fatima had a son, al-Hasan, who died in 670. About 300 years later, his ninth great-grandson, Ismail, carried the line to Europe when he became Imam of Seville.

Many genealogists dispute the connection between al-Hasan and Ismail, claiming it includes characters invented by medieval genealogists trying to link the Abbadid dynasty, founded by Ismail’s son, to Muhammad.

The last emir in that dynasty was supposed to have had a daughter named Zaida, who is said to have changed her name to Isabel upon converting to Christianity and marrying King Alfonso VI.

Yet there is no good evidence demonstrating that Isabel, who bore one son by Alfonso VI, is the same person as Zaida. So the line between Muhammad and the English monarchs probably breaks at this point. But if you give the Zaida/Isabel story the benefit of the doubt, too, the line eventually leads to Isabel’s fifth great-granddaughter, Maria de Padilla.

** Maria married another king, Peter the Cruel. Their great-great-granddaughter was Queen Isabel. Her daughter Juana married a Hapsburg, and eventually gave rise to a Medici, a Bourbon and long line of Italian princes and dukes, spreading the Muhammadan line all over Europe.

Finally, 43 generations from Muhammad, there’s an Italian princess, Marina Torlonia, whose granddaughter is Brooke Shields. **

Copyright © 2006 The Seattle Times Company

Re: Actor Brook Shields Islamic linage

heh anyone can relate to anyone that way :D

Re: Actor Brook Shields Islamic linage

y can't we desi have this kind a luck?

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Yeah. whats about desi royal tree.

The above on Mohammad (PBUH) and Fatima and then upto Zaida is not true.

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I have read the Isabel/Zaida story on a Catholic site before.

It is not hard to believe the Shi'ite Agha Khani Imams are also descended from the Prophet of Islam but they are Western/Caucasian in every way be it phenotype or culture.

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Thats because they are half-bred with Caucasian women...

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Yeah....

And did I ever mention I was the great-great-great descendent of Abe Lincoln?

So what if I'm brown...

Re: Actor Brook Shields Islamic linage

The writer must be smoking ganja and maybe abdali is giving him company. Brooke Shields who did drugs, appeared naked in many films including the famous butt shot in endless love, date a dozen and married Aggasi for fame related to our Prophet (PBUH)? Bakwas!

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I wonder if any desi geneaology sites exist!!

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quas

if we put aside the question whether or not there is a possibility of Brooke being a syed :) Why is it so hard to believe that someone who is a descendent of some holy figure can be doing things contrary to what his ancestor said?

I mean we have shahzaday fo supposedly decent families acting in all kindsa chichora ways in Pakistan.

just using a persons actions to dispute his or her lineage, especially centuries later is a weak argument, however if one focuses on some of the leaps of faith and assumptions on the linkages between Ismail and Hazrat Hassan thats more valid.

What other important fact can we get from this article? that it is technically possible for many ppl to be syeds, siddiquis, qureshis, osmanis, farooqis, zaidis, rizvis, naqvis etc etc.

yeah there are those that probably invented it for themselves but there are many who are genuine.

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You’re right but if Brooke Shields happens to a Syed, I would be personally hurt and I am not alone- a lot of ppl in Pakistan who treat our Proppet(PBUH) not a normal human being and those who give him and his descendants special status would be hurt too(Please no fights here).. There’s one more thing- Is/was she aware of her connection to the holy figure? If she was and still doing these things, it is disgusting :mad:

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quas

there are plenty of 'syeds' .. real or made-up, who engage in all kinds of stuff that you would not like on a daily basis. The prophet's descendents are not the prophet, they are prone to all the temptations and weaknesses as any other human being.

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Really? links or real-word examples please.. Have you met many in Pakiland who were like that? I guess if one's truly a muslim he would never do that. My best guess is that these are made-up syeds.. A lot of ppl just proclaim to be Syed when they as well can be Indians... ditto for Quraishis- I had nasty experiences with made up ones. Allah humein aqal de.. Lahol willa quuawat.

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quas, why do you think that ppl who are descendant from the prophet cant be bad? aren't we all descendent from adam who was a prophet, or amny from Noah, or abraham?

I am certain there are syeds who probably left the religion as well. Its all in our own deeds not in who our forefathers were...

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yes we are, sir. but there's a huge difference- adam and eve were not civilized per se.. all of us that way are "generic". Prophet(pbuh) laid foundation of Islam and we as the world's best religion followers are supposed to be sane in our actions- the expectations just get more of Prophet(pbuh)'s descendants.. just my 2 cents.

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expectations are high, which means they have to try harder, but they face the exact same challenges, temptations etc that everyone else does. They dont get any special powers to fight tem, they just have a higher burden of expectation i suppose.

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quas they may be syeds but they are humans too. Humans err. I unfortunately know a syed who has shown me his lineage all the way back to Hazrat Ali (ra) and hazrat fatima (as) yet there isn;t a single person he does not gossip about, he is like the community gossip centre and cannot keep a single thing about another to himself. In addition to that he is a very untidy sometimes filthy person. You may dismiss him as a fake syed but his family tree would not. Just because someone is a syed doesn;t mean he is not subject to sin and error.

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exactly and they are far from living upto the expectations.. pity :( They can get Allah's(swt) blessings if they really deliver.. but they have failed so far.. sad.

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If thats the case, it is very sad.. I knew a Syed back in Lahore who was like that- always blaming others for his actions.. I always suspected his claim that he was related to Hazrat Ali(ra).. but then, As Fraudia pointed out, there are some who are not living upto the expectations.. sad for Pakistan, sad for Islam. One question- how did you accept his claims of that his family tree was authenticated? How did you make sure?

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Not all though. the point is that syeds, like all others are prone to making the same mistakes and errors and can have the same weanesses as others.