Re: abu lulu
Yes that hadith has been thrown around quite alot, why not believe a similiar hadith that states the same about Abu Bakr r.a.?
Did i criticise abu bakr ?Anyway please come forth why i shouldnt believe , and if so why should i believe an hadeeth by abu huraira when they are not considered very strong to weak to void by sunni scholars
So do you accept this hadeeth about bibi fatima zehra or not? which is clearly mentioned in most of the sunni ''authentic'' hadeeth kitabey
Re: abu lulu
what cud u possibly think about a person who martyred the second khalifa of the Prophet (saw), about whom the Prophet (saw) said that if there wud have been a prophet after me, it wud have been umar....
OMg as much as i respect Umar , this fabrication of you makes me sick to the bone!
Then why didnt he Raise Umar during the event of Ghadeer e KHum ,see for sunni references Dr Tahir qadris book on this event!
Since we believe The prophet was massom from birth , from a lineage that goes back to the first prophet , till his death , Umar was only a convert not doubting his religion!
I can go on and on ! please only use reliable soursec when u make such a bold statement
Re: abu lulu
what cud u possibly think about a person who martyred the second khalifa of the Prophet (saw), about whom the Prophet (saw) said that if there wud have been a prophet after me, it wud have been umar....
You only gain the starus of a martyr only when it is carried out in the name of islam jihad ! Or when you are being killed in the name of islam.
A murder doesnt give you the status of a martyr, just like when you lets say get hit by a car !
Re: abu lulu
Did i criticise abu bakr ?Anyway please come forth why i shouldnt believe , and if so why should i believe an hadeeth by abu huraira when they are not considered very strong to weak to void by sunni scholars
So do you accept this hadeeth about bibi fatima zehra or not? which is clearly mentioned in most of the sunni ''authentic'' hadeeth kitabey
Oh lord, I'm sorry but your knowledge on this subject, regarding sunni scholars is very weak.
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OMg as much as i respect Umar , this fabrication of you makes me sick to the bone!
Then why didnt he Raise Umar during the event of Ghadeer e KHum ,see for sunni references Dr Tahir qadris book on this event!
Since we believe The prophet was massom from birth , from a lineage that goes back to the first prophet , till his death , Umar was only a convert not doubting his religion!
I can go on and on ! please only use reliable soursec when u make such a bold statement
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Can you prove its a fabrication? You can say the same about ghadeer e khum.
Please dont speak on shia sunnis issues, if you cannot provide a sound argument.
Re: abu lulu
Oh lord, I'm sorry but your knowledge on this subject, regarding sunni scholars is very weak.
Can you prove its a fabrication? You can say the same about ghadeer e khum.
Please dont speak on shia sunnis issues, if you cannot provide a sound argument.
Bro i could say the same thing about you too, and doubting on the hadeeth of ghadeer khum is doubting your own hadeeth books!
theres an aya in the quran that refers to this event , inshallah i will look it up and post it tomorow when i get more time to reply you on this matter inshallah!
Re: abu lulu
I personally didnt know about abu lulu , and i care less about him....
Infact shias and sunni have not many differences. we should look at the things we have in common with and build bridges to a better understanding , tolerance and respect! while discussing topics that is according to logic and reasons.
I am not pointing fingers on who has more or less knowledge, as we are all here to learn from each other. Allah swt is the all knowing and noone is more knowledgable then him !!
Re: abu lulu
Sounds like some arab who grew up in Hawaii :D
Re: abu lulu
Although i dont care for abu lula , and i respect our sunni brethens feelings!!! my advice is taqwa ...taqwa taqwa taqwa ...see , read , learn and lets have a polite and a respectfull discussion !
on the other hand, many sunnis do not respect us. they call us kaffirs, mushrik, regard us as deviants.
they say our sect was founded by a yemeni jew named abdullah ibn saba. they think we are fire-worshippers in disguise.
they say we are NOT Muslims!!!
these guys do not like us, yet would you respect them sis?
Re: abu lulu
^ so your job as I see it is to incite hatred between Shia and Sunnis here? shabash.
Re: abu lulu
Now it depends which one you focus upon. Likewise there are many shias who consider sunnis kaffirs also and claim that sunnis are haters of Ali ra.
Re: abu lulu
OMg as much as i respect Umar , this fabrication of you makes me sick to the bone!
Then why didnt he Raise Umar during the event of Ghadeer e KHum ,see for sunni references Dr Tahir qadris book on this event! Since we believe The prophet was massom from birth , from a lineage that goes back to the first prophet , till his death , Umar was only a convert not doubting his religion!
I can go on and on ! please only use reliable soursec when u make such a bold statement
i'd rather believe a shiaa book then believe a book by tahir-ul-qadri....
he's a sufi - not a sunni....