About those who drink alcohol

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.......go to the mosque?

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What's so bad about it

There's a diff in an alcoholic and occasionally having a drink with alcohol in it

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A deal breaker...however this q has got me wondering that what IF you get married and then figure out the guy/girl drinks ...they are very good otherwise in all aspects but don't or can't seem to give up on their drinking...what would most spouses's reaction be?! Hmmm.

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Most people are citing religion as the reason for not accepting a drinker. Can anyone share any credible source of information about alcohol in islam?

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Doesn't bother me hugely IF in moderation.. I wouldn't tolerate someone who got drunk or pressured me to drink..

I think culturally we see it as worse (like the thing about girls showing their legs) but to me it's not any worse a sin than not wearing hijab and so on..

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Well a good person is expected to be honest too, instead of hiding a habit, good or bad. Anyway, if it be, people change, life partners can influence and help quiting a bad habit.

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I know but what if it somehow never came up and u assumed he doesn't drink?!

yes u can influence but only if the other person realizes it to be a bad habbit.

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would never marry one who drinks.. a deal breaker indeed. religious reasons.

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I don’t know if someone here has ever experienced living with an alcoholic or not. But trust me, alcoholics are worst then living with an animal. A very close relative of mine has this habit. He has six kids and all of them are pretty decent and sensible. They have seen their father drinking every single night without a gap. It was never openly but privately in his bedroom. I can’t ever list down the problems they have constantly faced from the time of kid’s birth till they have all got married. This habit never ends, not after marriage, not after kids, not after grandkids, not after chronic disease. One can only overcome if he starts realizing the side effect his family or people close to him are suffering. And so far I have seen 3 alcoholics, non of them have realized. All of three are married with kids and grandkids.

98% of alcoholics are psychologically sick. They lose their mental grip and talk nonsense. I am here sharing only the psychological effect on closed ones, not at all the religious side.

When I got married, I was pretty clear. They only thing I was interested to know was if my husband to be was alcoholic or not, You won’t imagine that I properly investigated and was so happy to find that he himself hates alcoholics, On our wedding night I took a life time promise from him that if I ever got a hint from him of getting near to alcohols I will not think a single minutes and get Khulaa. Marrying an alcoholic is certainly marring a filthy dog.

My suggestion. Please never EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER marry an alcoholics. You will risk your kid’s future. Your own life and most of all the respect in society and yes don't forget the religious side.

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^ The OP is not talking about an alcoholic in this thread at all. Alcoholism is a disease and many many many people who do not drink assume anyone who does is a drunk alcoholic who drowns himself/herself in alky every single night and cannot live without it.

Please read the original post and keep things in perspective here.

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Like Deeba, I'm not bothered by social drinking. I end up at social events that serve alcohol on a regular basis...heck almost all my work events include alcohol. Most people I know drink socially. As long as I'm not being pressured to drink & people around me aren't being obnoxious b/c of the alcohol, I can tolerate it.

I see for many of you this is a deal breaker due to religion. Question: Are you all just as strict about other religious things like eating halal, hijab, watching half-naked women prancing around in Bollywood movies etc? I feel like desi Muslims go nuts if someone drinks alcohol or eats pork citing religion....yet seems to have no issues with MANY other religious rules that are broken on a daily basis.

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Never
Ever

trying.so hard to be western its painful

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Paheli- its like.saying you can't have a shower.because u r tool dirty. Or can't pray because you have sinned toomuch.

Just because some people don't abide by all rules doesn't.mean they should be OK with drinking alcohol etc.

We can't pick.and.choose religion but unfortunately we all do.

That's why we r humans.and not angels

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drinking socially…doesnt usually just end there.

alcohol is an addiction. but it’s the same way i’m addicted to diet coke :chai:

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So drinking is a "western" thing? Indian Hindus/Christians who drink......all the people living in China, Japan, Australia etc. who drink.....do you also see them as "trying to be western"? What about desis who cut cake on the wedding reception, wear white/beige bridal wear, drink milk out of WINE glasses on wedding day etc......same feeling towards them?

Oh believe me, I'm quite aware of people's CHOICE to pick & choose the religious rules they follow based on what's most convenient for them. And I never said anyone should be perfect.

What I fail to understand is how people in their mind justify the hatred toward alcohol/pork.....yet don't see that they themselves are breaking other rules in Islam. I wanted to point out the hypocrisy of it. We want to break other Islamic rules b/c we don't feel like following them....yet when it comes to alcohol/pork, suddenly we're all law abiding Muslims. I have nothing against people who don't drink & won't marry someone who does.....I know non-Muslims who are just as strict about alcohol. I'm just amused by how fast Islam comes out when alcohol/pork is mentioned.

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I think because we've been conditioned to believe these two things are the most evil a human being could do.

People might date, kiss, have sex outside of marriage but when it comes to pork and alcohol...these sins are considered more "real" to many.

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Islam is not a Buffet where you can pick and choose what you want.

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May be those who have cited religious reasons, do not have sex outside marriage.

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Sure, I am not one to judge anyone.

But it does bring to light an interesting point:

Alcohol and pork consumption are considered bigger sins compared to any other sin by Muslims overall...why is that?

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I think because everything else people usually make excuses for, i.e ''gf toh hai lekin its not like we do it'' or ''hey I dont fast but atleast I give charity'' etc but for this there is no excuse religiously speaking so people tend to chest thump this issue more