Abida, Fakhar announce to join Pakistan People's Party

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they both are lotteyyy. lottey hi lotteyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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I agree Benazir is a courageous leader. It took great courage for her to leave Pakistan willingly in April 1999, and then jet between Dubai, London and Washington but never come back to Pakistan in all those years. :)

Just saw pictures of her and that military stooge Chadhury Shujaat sitting on the same sofa at that Walima in Dubai yesterday, and then exchange pleasantries and more later. How brave of her. I will post pics when I get them. :D

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How about years in jail under marshal law under ur favorate mard-e-moman .. trial of her father.. and all the fake cases..

Do you have the courage to apologize for all the cases she was set free or cases termed as fake:?

Whats teh crime of attending a walima and meeting shujat!

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It's reassuring to see jiyalas still blindingly supporting the criminal incompetence and corruption of BB. Don't disparage the military, they saved Pakistan from Indian hegemony in the region. Had it been left to Bhuttos, Pakistanis would be carrying Indian passports.

Too bad traitors of Pakistan would support a criminal like Benazir rather their true defenders.

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Who surrendered in 1971 after yelling they were lions who would fight to the death? (let the excuses start)

Who saved 100,000 of the 'lions' from Indian prisoner camps?....what a short memory you have

Which force in Pakistan has killed more Pakistani's than Indians?

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'Tum wahaan, hum yahaan" - Zulfikar A. Bhutto on the victory of Mujib-ur-Rahman's Awami League.

Z. A. Bhutto's refusal to share power with Mujib led to the '71 debacle.

Thanks for reminding us of the real traitor and breaker of the country.

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:nono:

Who were the ruler of the country - The military Junta.
Whose responisbility it was to hand over power to Mujib - Military junta.

it is a convenient scapegoat to blame Bhutto in order to cover up the blunders ofthe military and especially the biggest traitor and incompetent person Pakistan has seen, General Yahya and his merry men. They were the real traitors and not some political slogan spoken in a rally in lahore.

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she was set free not because of cases were fake, rather buy-sell-trade of horses.

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Ehsan- You are right, but these Army children don’t want to blame the Army their families belong to.

To the rest of Pakistan, what you said is blatantly obvious.

When Pakistan ends up like the fmr Yugoslavia the so called ‘defenders’ of Pakistan will be seen as the biggest factor in its destruction.

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The 'traitor' who saved 100,000 of your surrendering 'Fauji mujahid lions'

The 'traitor' who 'massacred' thousands of Bengalis.

The 'traitor' who treated Bengalis with a boot and stick since Pakistan was created in 1947.

You Army families truly live in a seperate world, luxurious living combined with a 'convenient' sense of history.

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well i dont think any citizen needs to apologize for any wrong done to her. However, she needs to apologize for her stuff which she has been tried for in swiss and british courts.

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ehsan bhai but its not one or the other, the fault was both with yahya and with ZAB. so lets not blame one guy and give a free pass to the other. All the players were responsible for it in ne way or the other and in varying levels of culpability.

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I dont think we should be discussing ZAB here in this topic, the party he led is very different from the party we see now, primarily because of the change in leadership.

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agreed, looking at ZAB and Benazir gives me the same feeling i get when i see kirk douglas and michael douglas, or martin sheen with charlie sheen and emilio estevez..

i.e. talent is not always genetic :)

There is not a single politician the calibre of ZAB in the country right now.

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I am not saying that the politicians were innocent, all of them including Bhutto were guilty but the primary responsibility was of the military who were ruling the country to hand power over to the elected representatives and back them. That they did not do that is the fundamental reason for the break up of the country and they have to take the blame. Secondly how naive it is to say that a politician stood up in a public meeting and said idhar hum udhar tum and the country broke up. The underlying problems were much deeper than just a few words uttered by Bhutto.

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I agree.

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Bhutto's quote may be a sound bite but it does indicate his unwillingness to work with Mujeeb. He was not conciliatory towards Awami League and it's naive to deny that.

On one hand Bhutto was a great politician of high caliber and on other hand he was the army's puppet? Some politician.

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So we are traitors - those who support BB :) by that account majority of pakistanis are traitors.. look at votes casted inprevious years and the next election too..

Those who support army generals for raping and killing thousands in Bangla Desh.. bombing sindh villages, brutailizng Sindh and Balauchstan, setting of missiles in Ojri Camp to escapre corruption are the defenders - shame.

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These were propagated during Zia's time but have been refuted .. u are still singing these in 21st century .. take ur face out of sand now..

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Majority of Pakistanis don't support BB because of her criminal incompetence and corruption. Just because a jiyala is posting lies after lies about BB's 'support' doesn't mean it's true.

As regards your hatred for the Pakistani military, without them you'd be carrying an indian passport.

Keep parroting your lies. Poll after poll shows Mian BB are the most unpopular politicians in Pakistan.

Bhutto also ordered army action in "Balauchstan" to suppress those uppity Balauch. So, your man also "brutalized" the Balauch.
Anymore propaganda and lies, Degas?