Re: Abdullah ibn Saba - The Myth Exposed
First fo all i realized that dawa_i_dil in unable to reply to my last post, but no problem, if your piooner ones had to come from their grave, even they wont be able to reply.
Now coming to your yet another "new" topic. i.e of Taaqiyah.
I can also post also tons of material on Sooper Dooper formula of Taqiyya ...but its just mere two way copy-pasting...more
not a folk...this is reality....
No you cannot paste anything, If Quran and Sunnah permits anything, then no matter how much your Nasibi Mullahs put efforts, they can never be able to make Haram what has been mader Halal by Allah.
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only to say that.....if Taqqiyya is important...at the most ..at the most...when you have fear of loss of your life.....not always....but "braves" even when fear...do not care about it.......
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If you accept this definition then whats the issue all about?
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***The greatest faqeeh of all times.....whose intellect..wisdom...and knowledge virtually told to be un-parallel in whole islamic history...Nauman Bin Saabit of the Kufa ...which is known by the whole world as Abu Hanifa...and 1.2 billions muslims head bow on hearing his name.....with respect and love...*
The Abbasid caliph Mansoor insisted ..tortured and jailed him ...because he refused to take post of Chief Justice of whole islamic world...of 3 continents.....
he plead that i am not worthy for it...Mansoor shouted with anger you are liar....
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The king of "Istadlal" immediately replied that...O caliph... a liar can be a Chief Justice....The caliph face became pale with anger ...and ordered him to jail him till he obey to Caliph...but he refused...and martyred in the jail*....but never ever take a Taqiyya to safe his life......*
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If he didnt performed Taqqiyah then Muslims doesnt have to do anythiung with his personal notion, For MUslims Quran and Thaqlain is enough to understand what is Halal and Haram.
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One of the golden example of muslim history...and the whole ummah will take inspiration from this brave man !!!!!!
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Certainly not, He is not above Allah and Thaqlain. So his notion is useless, atleast for the followers of Ahlulbayt [as].
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The another greatest faqeeh of islamic history...Ahmed bin Hanbal....refused to give fatwa....of Quran being Khalq....Mansoor ...the Abbasid caliph...jailed him...cut his both hands till shoulders...and rode him on the camel to wander in the streets of baghdad with slaves beating him with lashes...and on each lash....this greatest faqeeh ...usedto shout ..that ...quran is not khalq...the slaves used to cane him more...and on each slash...he shouted with more voice...Quran is not khalq......
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As above.
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why this bravest man not used to Taqqiyya,,,,to safe his life.......he can give the fatwa...but in heart anotther true belief...why di he not give that...way....
because when there is Haqq....no chance...even to die on Haqq....as Martyr.....or accept false.......
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The think Nasibi minds need to understand that there are certain situations where Taqqiyah is wajib and certain situatons when it is Haram. You just cannt pick one incident out of ocntext and say: "see he doesnt performed Taqqiyah" rather it depends on situation to situation.
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***Why the beloved of Prophet(pbuh) not did baait of Yazeed even as a taqiyya ..so he could save his whole family...,why he sacrificed the wghole family of prophet(pbuh)....why not baait to ibne saad...etc.....where had the taqiyya gone.....*
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As above.**
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Why Shiek Ahmed Sarhindi....Mujjaddid alif Sani....one of the greatest sufi of islmic history...refused to bow in front of king Jhangir **....and accepted the jail of Gwaliyaar** ..why he not did Taqiyya.....
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Again, he was not more than Allah and Thaqlain. If Allah permits Taqqiyah, it shall suffice for Muslims, and for those who deem Sarhindi etc as their sole idols, then good for them.
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***The islamic history is full of such personalities...through which the standards or bravery are calibirated......not making escape...and telling a lie...for the name of taqiyya.....*
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The Islamic history is full of people who were better than Abu Hanifa, Ahmed, Sirhandi and yet they performed Taqqiyqh. The incident of Sahabi Ammar Yasir [ra] is quite popular in this regard.
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so a liar is not equal to a momin.....by hadees...
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And lair under Taqqiyah does not negate the belief of a momin, by Quran, Hadees and Statements of Scholars.