Abdullah ibn Saba - The Myth Exposed

[BOY-NICE]

Re: Abdullah ibn Saba - The Myth Exposed

See, the Rafidhi Monkey didn't discuss the verse of Quran which he claims supports Rafidhi view of two witnesses at divorcing./

Ya najis nasibi, it was you who was having indigestion in his stomach about the topic and wanted me to go back to the original topic. If you want to discuss the clear cut ruling of Quran as compareed to the bidah of Umer, then let me simply cite the verse:

[Yousuf Ali 65:1-2] O Prophet! When ye do divorce women, divorce them at their prescribed periods, and count (accurately), their prescribed periods: And fear Allah your Lord: and turn them not out of their houses, nor shall they (themselves) leave, except in case they are guilty of some open lewdness, ... and take for witness two persons from among you, endued with justice, and establish the evidence (as) before Allah.

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وَإِذِ ابْتَلَى إِبْرَاهِيمَ رَبُّهُ بِكَلِمَاتٍ فَأَتَمَّهُنَّ قَالَ إِنِّي جَاعِلُكَ لِلنَّاسِ إِمَامًا قَالَ وَمِن ذُرِّيَّتِي قَالَ لاَ يَنَالُ عَهْدِي الظَّالِمِينَ

002.124 And remember that Abraham was tried by his Lord with certain commands, which he fulfilled: He said: "I will make thee an Imam to the Nations." He pleaded:

This verse makes Ibrahim 'alayhis salam the Imam not your Infallibles.

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The verse makes it clear that unlike your stupid logic of selecing guide of mankind by yourself, it is only Allah's job to do so.

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وَجَعَلْنَاهُمْ أَئِمَّةً يَهْدُونَ بِأَمْرِنَا وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْهِمْ فِعْلَ الْخَيْرَاتِ وَإِقَامَ الصَّلَاةِ وَإِيتَاء الزَّكَاةِ وَكَانُوا لَنَا عَابِدِينَ

021.073 And We made them leaders, guiding (men) by Our Command, and We sent them inspiration to do good deeds, to establish regular prayers, and to practise regular charity; and they constantly served Us (and Us only).

Once again nothing mentioned in the above verse about the 12 Infallibles.

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Once again, the answer is same. ***

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Therefore, the Most Fundamental belief of Kafirism (Shi'ism) has no evidence in Quran rather it is preached by Kafir Fallibles like Koleni, Majlisi etc.
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Since your pop and pandits Bukhari and Muslim etc had no shame in accepting traditions from filthy Nasibi and Khariji, hence your frustration just makes you to point out your najis fingers at the Shia authors, but anyway, the Quran is the biggest proof that selecting a guide/Imam is Allah's job and those lunatics who think that they are better than Allah in selecting a guide for the mankind are easily refuted.

[BOY-NICE]

Re: Abdullah ibn Saba - The Myth Exposed

@binAadam

Your First Imam pulled the HUGE gate of Khyber all by himself and rest of your Imams couldn’t pull bars of Banu Umaiya’s prisons?
Strange?
Did they do lots of mut’ah in prison to lose their manly-powers?

The situation wherein gate of Khayber (having your ancestors inside) was up rooted by first Imam was different than the rest of the Imams. The chosen ones by Allah do not work according to the wishes of najis nasibies like you, rather they work according to wisdom and Allah’s will. The Prophet [s] was able to break he moon, but he never used that capability (again) in killing the kufaar coming against him, rather He [s] faught as if they were normal war circumstances.

As for your filthy comments of loosing man-power by the Imams of Ahlulbayt , it has really proved that your veins are polutted with the najis blood (may be of unknown origin) since it is too an sign of the enemies of Ahlulbayt [as]. But, Sunnies can also see here clearly that how najis nawasib like you do not even spare Hassan [as] and Hussain [as] who are also deemed honarable among Sunnies.

Well, forefathers of your Imams after the 3rd were definitely fireworshippers as your 3rd Imam had a Persian Slave Girl, Shahr Bano who became the mother of rest of Infallibles.
Even if a Saiyid does Mut’ah with an Iranian Majoosi and a Monkey like you is born out of Mut’ah, still you will be a Saiyid?

Did your father ever got married to your mother? Is that frustration that is killing you? Well, seriously, because everyone can notice here that you have no arguments to defend your nasibi ancestors and you are stooping too low and getting support of filthy comments. May be you are doing this because of the aforesaid frustrration.

Father of your First Imam also died at Kufr.

If he was a kaafir then I dont know what will you call the relation b/w our blessed Holy Prophet [s] and most pious wife of Prophet [s] namely Khadija [as] since it was the father of my first Imam, the uncle of Prophet [s] who recited the nikah

Continuous Maatam and Mut’ah have corroded your ability to think and understand.

At least we do what is Halal by Quran and Sunnah, instead of commiting Harams like that your 2nd caliph used to do, wandering into the streets in night and watching women answering the call of nature. (see Sahih Bukhari).

Well, Bukhari and Muslim are our most authentic books of hadith and they don’t talk about 'Ali’s virtues as Rafidhi-Kafirs portray his picture. So show me where in Bukhari and Muslim it says that 'Ali didn’t run away with other people at Uhud?

Yyeah why would your pop and pandits were supposed to talk about Ali’s virtues in detail since they had to show their obedience to the najis nasibi tyrants of Bani Ummah, and remain busy in finding Nawasib and Khawarij so that they copuld take hadeeth from them. ]

What is the meaning of 'Abd Manaaf, name of father of your first Imam?

Is it an excuse for the harsh meaning of your Imam ?

Your second Imam gave bai’ah to the same Munafiq, so who he was?
Even your first Imam gave bai’ah to 3 Caliphs whom your Kafir sect believes were Munafiqeen, so who your First Imam was to give his bai’ah to Munafiqeen?

Who told you that we believe that our Imams did bayah to anyone who had lead half of his life in kissing and prostrating the idols?

And as for your pathetic logic that a righteous imam cannot make peace treaty with a unjust tyrant, then let me cite one example from famed Hanafi source which itself relied on Holy Quran.

الإمام أن يصالح أهل الحرب أو فريقا منهم وكان في ذلك مصلحة للمسلمين فلا بأس به لقوله تعالى : { وإن جنحوا للسلم فاجنح لها وتوكل على الله } الأنفال : 61

When the Imam considers making peace with the Kuffar, a peace that will have some (hidden) reasonings for the Muslims, there is still no problem with making such peace, since Allah (swt) states ‘But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things)’.”
al Hidayah, Volume 1 page 381

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You can’t say you don’t believe your Imams gave bai’ah to them, as our books confirm that, and what S.H.I.T your books preach we don’t trust, keep this to welcome your Naked Imam of Time and when he comes back, kill him like your Kafir-Sect killed all your Imams and bury him into a manhole so his status will rise more.

Again you used the word ‘naked’, it means that the syndrome of ‘nudity’ concept given to you by one of the famed female personality of your school in the ‘demonstration of bath’ tradtion has not gonne off your mind yet

[binAadam]

Re: Abdullah ibn Saba - The Myth Exposed

I dont know why you hid the more detail version of that tradition which is found in Sahih Muslim. Abu Salama b. 'Abd al-Rahman reported: I along with the foster brother of 'A'isha went to her and he asked about the bath of the Apostle (may peace be upon him) because of sexual intercourse. She called for a vessel equal to a Sa' and she took a bath, and there was a curtain between us and her. She poured water on her head thrice and he (Abu Salama) said: The wives of the Apostle (may peace be upon him) collected hair on their heads and these lopped up to ears (and did not go beyond that). Sahih Muslim, Book 003, Number 0626:

The above narration claims the very thing which I mentioned above that

there was a curtain between us and her

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She poured water on her head thrice

Nowhere does it say that She wasn't wearing any clothes or they saw the movements she made during bath as they only say there was a curtain between them which was not see through, it was see-through only to the minds of Kafir-Shias who are Hell-Bound inshaAllah for their Obscenity and Kufr.

Did they see her Hair?

The narration doesn't say that these two guys themselves witnessed that the wives of Allah's Apostle collected or tied their hair on their heads rather the narration says

and he (Abu Salama) said: The wives of the Apostle (may peace be upon him) collected hair on their heads and these lopped up to ears (and did not go beyond that).

which certainly means that he (Abu Salama) had heard this from Ummul Mumineen or other people. If he (Abu Salama) makes such statement then only a Shia-Munafiq can think of evil about these pious Believers, a Believer can't ever have a slightest idea in his mind that Ummul Mumineen 'Aishah radhiyAllahu 'anha showed her hair to these two guys in her bath simply because

there is no such thing mentioned in the above narration

I am sure this Rafidhi-Monkey will say that Abu Salama made this statement because he himself saw that from Ummul Mumineen, then this Kafir-Swine should know that he (Abu Salama) is talking about Mothers of Believers, not only of 'Aishah radhiyAllahu 'anha

Did he ask all Mothers of Believers to explain the Prophetic Bath then?

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The point is:
1. As the query was with regards to Ghusl after intercourse, could the two men not have obtained the information from one of the male companions? It sohws their evil intention.
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The reason why they asked her is that Allah declared her as a Mother of Believers, she is the Mother of them, they will certainly ask their Mother who was the Closest Companion of Muhammad sallAllahu 'alayhe wasallam. Allah didn't give this status to Mother of Infallibles in Quran which is another Proof that your 12 Infallibles are Forgeries of Majoosis and Yahoodis.

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3. Why would A'isha find it necessary to 'take a bath' to demonstrate the point could she not have simply relayed actions verbally with her clothes on?
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'Aishah radhiyAllahu 'anha had more knowledge of Quran and Sunnah, she was higher in status than all your Imams, she is from Ahl-al-Bayt, she is the Mother of Believers according to Quran, a Rafidhi-Kafir has no right to ask why she did this and why she did that. Your Pagan Mut'ah Fathers from Yahood and Mushrikeen of Makkah also asked such questions from our Prophet as why he did this why he did that.

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4. If there was a net between them that presumable acted as purdah does this not defeat the object of A'isha removing her clothes and demonstrating how Ghusl is performed?
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I have already answered this above in my previous post but this Kafir Monkey will keep repeating the same Kufr again and again.

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5. The net clearly was NOT very thick, since they were able to observe that A'isha had placed her hair over her head - they could even SEE her ears through it.
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A Rafidhi-Monkey will always remain a monkey, anyways, already answered above.

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No matter how much you bark (since you are the follower of barking b*i*t*c*h Muawiyah) and do takfeer against Shias of Ahlulbayt [as], you cannot change the fact that your ancestors were open Nasibi and Khariji and your princicple books are replete with those filthy people.
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These Nasibis kicked the A.S.S.E.S of your 12 gods, kept them in prison so they become more strong in Mut'ah.

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If slandering Aeysha makes on worse than animals then the above cited tradition of Aysha doing demonstration of bath in front of male audience is in your books and it is what you believe hence the concept of worse than animals applies on you and your books. We alhamdulilah reject this stupidity.
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Jews and Kafir attack Islam because they see our literature from their own eyes, you Rafidha-Kuffar do the same, you see only Evil around, because you have been cursed by Allah and all His Slaves for your ignorance, bigotry and Kufr.

[binAadam]

Re: Abdullah ibn Saba - The Myth Exposed

BLASPHEMY of the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w and his Daughter Fatima r.a by KAFIR-SHIAS

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"It was narrated that Imam ] Ja`far Ibn Muhamad p.b.u.h said : The prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h used to put his face between the breasts of his daughter ] Fatima before going to sleep"

Bihaar al-Anwar, vol. 43, p. 78

Does this Monkey-Boy have any answer to this slander?

[binAadam]

Re: Abdullah ibn Saba - The Myth Exposed

The verse makes it clear that unlike your stupid logic of selecing guide of mankind by yourself, it is only Allah's job to do so.

lol, well, this is Allah who selects guides for mankind because you read this in Quran, so show me where in the same Quran Allah chose 'Ali to be the guide of mankind. Show me the verse and win a banana, feel some shame and hide behind your Kafir-Naked-Imam-of-Time in the sewage-gutter.

[Minerva]

Re: Abdullah ibn Saba - The Myth Exposed

Boy-Nice and Bin Adam, kindly refrain from calling names. If you can't discuss anything in a civilized manner, please take your hate mongering elsewhere.

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