it was not appropriate to do jihaad against the british govt when they were ruling.. they have given the freedom of religion, meaning, you were free to believe whatever you like without any fear. With Muslims, they gave the permission to openly say Adhaan when Sikhs at that time were not allowing Muslims to. Hence, what you posted is out of context and read couple of pages before and after of what you posted…
PS: again, u fail to tell us how one cannot be called a shaheed if he died defending the borders? If he never believed in such jihaad, why he entered in the army in the first place?
A person who dies for Pakistan but doesn't believe in the finality of the Prophet (saw) is not a shaheed. Period.
Need proof from Quran please..
O bhai, how can the followers of MGA become shaheed, when they don't believe in this 'Jihad' in the first place. :D
Not the answer.. please quote some sahih hadith or evidence from Quran to back up your statement, that one cant be called a shaheed if he dont believe in the finality of the prophethood.. (in a literal way you do)..
Assalam o alaikum all,
While we are discussing here whether Ahmadis are kafir or not, whether they should be allowed to be called Ahmadis, or whether Muslims should eat with Ahmadis, a young Ahmadi Major (29 years old) in the Pakistan army yesterday offered the ultimate sacrifice for his country and embraced martyrdom in the ongiong military operations in the northern areas. Inna Lillah e Wa Inna Ilaih e Rajeoon.
"And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;" (The Holy Quran, 3:169)
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Keeping hatred and prejudice aside, for once. I dont believe even the Muslim Army men can decidedly be categorised as Shaheed. Fancy as it may, to some, the reality remains, that very few might have joined the army for the real purpose of martyrdom. More than most join it only as a profession, a status symbol and being the most powerful one. Its just that when any of them whether in Police or Army, have to die, just as each one of us have to, they are called 'shaheed', reminds me of a verse from Ghalib: Dil ke khush karne ko Ghalib... A Shaheed, from Islamic POV definition, is one who sacrifices their life in way of Allah, and sacrificing your life while representing your country, is not the synonymous of that, forsure.
Well I must say that Ahmadis are not bad as a Human. and as a good pakistanis. not every christians is bad. christians are also good pakistanis. so that deos not make them on the right path. you see. good work can be done by any religious person. but the fact is Ahmadiyya muslim community is doing fraud in the name of the Imam mehdi (Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Aleh-salam) actually ahmadiyya muslim jamaat is not the REAL JAMAAT of the Promised messiah aleh-salam. This jamaat is actually the jamaat of MUSLEH MAUD (son of the promised messiah). more explaination can be found in the Neutral Ahmadiyya research based website http://alfazl.blogspot.com/
Hazrat Isa (as) famously said “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s,…”
Was he being a stooge of Caesar, (a non-believing) authority, by submiting to his authority? And why did Hazart Isa (as) not fight the non-believer Caesar instead of being a peaceful subject of his and be happy about it?
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^abolished which jihaad?.. please for truth's sake read what you quoted from the saying of promised Messiah AS..
Yes, for the name of propagating Islam, i.e: spreading islam with sword.. jihaad is now forbidden. Jihaad within ones conscious, jihaad against the enemies, verbal jihaad to defend Islam from its enemies, physical jihaad to defend our home,belongings,country is permitted and can never be forbidden.
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why was my comment deleted? why do you delete the truth?
your side can write what they want, but when we answer our comments are deleted w/o ANY reason!
what about those Maulvi's who were bitter foes of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but were obedient towards the British Government! Why are the million Muslims obedient towards the British Government Today?