A veil doesn't mean 'oppressed'

[PhatBalongri]

Re: A veil doesn't mean 'oppressed'

hahaha btw Sara how do you knwo nuns aren't forced into it?

[Sara516]

Re: A veil doesn't mean 'oppressed'

Coz they're not. None of hte nuns I who taught me ever wore it anyway.

[Sara516]

Re: A veil doesn’t mean ‘oppressed’

@PhatBalongri

What world do you live in hun? Are you telling me that hijabis dont CHOSE to enter that lifestyle? You dont wear hijab, aren’t you chosing not to?

Im surprised, i thought you knew me enough by now to know that I wouldn’t find hijab oppressive

But you know what, you can’t deny that some girls ARE forced to wear hijab by their families. I personaly don’t know any who were forced, including my mother, but that doesn’t mean it doesnt exist somewhere

[AQ]

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@Sara516

But you know what, you can’t deny that some girls ARE forced to wear hijab by their families. I personaly don’t know any who were forced, including my mother, but that doesn’t mean it doesnt exist somewhere

I think forcing happens in one of the two scenarios.

1. Either parents fail to teach their daughter what hijaab really, in its religious connotation, is.

2. Or, the girls fail to understand their faith.

In either cases, forcing does not bring sawaab to any of the two.

[uberalles]

Re: A veil doesn't mean 'oppressed'

@Anwaar Qureshi

oh really.. can you kindly tell us the interpretation of the following Quranic referecne... Note that these are not interpretations but merely a translation...

***24:30]* "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do."

***24:31]* “And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, or their brothers' sons or their sisters' sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.”

***33:59]* “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them. That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.”

tHANK YOU FOR VALIDATING MY POINT, ALLAH IS MALE, MOHAMMAD MALE, HADITHS AND SUNNAHS WRITTEN BY MEN, CLERICS INTERPRETING MALE , ALL MALE, MALE , MALE AND WOMEN ARE TOLD TO WALK QUIETLY SO AS NOT TO ATTRACT EYES, WOMEN TOLD NOT TO WEAR SCENT SO AS NOT TO ATTRACT EYES AND WOMEN TOLD TO STAY COVERED SO AS NOT TO ATTACT EYES TO AD NAUSEUM . UNFORTUNATELY MANY WOMEN THINK THE DO IT FOR ALLAH , not not not not not not not not not not not not not not , BUT MAN TELLS YOU SO.

THANK YOUR FOR VALIDATING THE MALE MYSOGYNY WHICH EXISTS IN RELIGION AND CULTURE DOMINATED BY THE THREE MAINSTREAM RELIGIONS CREATED IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

[Sara516]

Re: A veil doesn’t mean ‘oppressed’

@Anwaar Qureshi

I think forcing happens in one of the two scenarios.

1. Either parents fail to teach their daughter what hijaab really, in its religious connotation, is.

2. Or, the girls fail to understand their faith.

In either cases, forcing does not bring sawaab to any of the two.

Exactly

[PhatBalongri]

Re: A veil doesn’t mean ‘oppressed’

@Sara516

Im surprised, i thought you knew me enough by now to know that I wouldn’t find hijab oppressive

But you know what, you can’t deny that some girls ARE forced to wear hijab by their families. I personaly don’t know any who were forced, including my mother, but that doesn’t mean it doesnt exist somewhere

I have heard of nuns who were forced into it by society or by their teachers/elders/others in the community. Especially the ones brought up in christian orphanages and stuff. And then there are hijabis who chose to wear it and then there are a few who are forced into it. I dont see why hyou are singling hijabis out.